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Old Jun 02, 2016, 02:26 PM
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I've been word vomiting a lot recently. lol
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Old Jun 02, 2016, 02:45 PM
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I've been word vomiting a lot recently. lol
Hi Sweety, I'm then bearer of bad news. It doesn't get any better.
Before, at least the people close to me understood (or pretended to).
Now, sometimes I even confuse myself.
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Old Jun 02, 2016, 02:49 PM
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Y aprendiendo C++ es más fácil que aprendiendo Inglés, no?
Y que carajo haces tu hablando en un idioma que no es el tuyo.
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Old Jun 02, 2016, 02:50 PM
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That's irrelevant, though.

There are plenty of people who can program in C++ and speak English fluently, so there's almost no point in hiring someone who can't speak English

Most tech companies these days outsource their work to India (because that's where labor is very cheap), but the Indian people they hire can understand and speak English fluently (or close to fluently). Matter of fact, it is significantly cheaper to hire someone from India than it is to hire someone from Mexico (for example), regardless of the person's English skills. Plus, the quality of education in India is, generally speaking, much better than the quality of education in Mexico. All the more reason to hire an Indian person over a Mexican person who can't speak English. Hell, you're still better off hiring an Indian dude who can't speak English.

The odds are against you if you're Latino and can't speak English
The problem with Indians is that they don't tell you if they don't understand you and they go for the easiest solution to meet criteria without looking at the bigger picture, maintainability and possible future use. Too often the easiest solution, no matter the cost.

It's a cultural thing. Most Indians aren't gonna tell you if they have a problem. Most Latinos will. Most Europeans will.

If you just hire a manager that can speak both languages, you'll be fine.

And the Indian culture isn't worse, it's just that you don't know it and you need different types of standards/criteria for different people.
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Old Jun 02, 2016, 03:05 PM
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The problem with Indians is that they don't tell you if they don't understand you and they go for the easiest solution to meet criteria without looking at the bigger picture, maintainability and possible future use. Too often the easiest solution, no matter the cost.

It's a cultural thing. Most Indians aren't gonna tell you if they have a problem. Most Latinos will. Most Europeans will.

If you just hire a manager that can speak both languages, you'll be fine.

And the Indian culture isn't worse, it's just that you don't know it and you need different types of standards/criteria for different people.
lol and you called me racist!!!
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Old Jun 02, 2016, 03:33 PM
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lol and you called me racist!!!
It's about culture, not race. And much of that culture is highly influenced by the British. English is seen as sophistication and Hindi for the working class. Very class conscious. Authority isn't questioned. Maybe undermined, but not "publicly" questioned. It's too risky.

If people migrate, they're generally rather quick to adapt to another culture. It's not about race, not even about people, but about culture.
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It's (even) the same in the US, where people admire or give a high status to things European, an English accent, the British monarchy, things like that.

People in Mexico might join a cartel but that doesn't mean they will do the same in the US (of course, given a chance).
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Old Jun 02, 2016, 03:52 PM
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Y que carajo haces tu hablando en un idioma que no es el tuyo.
I may speak in any language I like. Languages don't belong to anyone. Like culture.
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Old Jun 02, 2016, 04:01 PM
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I may speak in any language I like. Languages don't belong to anyone. Like culture.
I like that. It's called Character. And, what, you wanna pick a cyberfight?.
You may type better than me, but I have more people to help me after the 3rd or 4th day.
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Old Jun 02, 2016, 04:09 PM
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Sometimes, but I'm kinda used to it so I expect it, rather than fear it. I get rejected often and it seems to get easier the more it's done.
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Three years ago i really put myself out there. I had met a guy i hit it off with and i asked him out on a date. We had a brief relationship which ended up with him rejecting me and i was extremely hurt. That's the last time, i decided. I'm almost 50 and i've just decided romance is not part of my life anymore. I have my sweet little dog and a wide variety of aquaintances and that's enough.
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Three years ago i really put myself out there. I had met a guy i hit it off with and i asked him out on a date. We had a brief relationship which ended up with him rejecting me and i was extremely hurt. That's the last time, i decided. I'm almost 50 and i've just decided romance is not part of my life anymore. I have my sweet little dog and a wide variety of aquaintances and that's enough.
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Do you ever fear rejection?
Absolutely. I am always searching for validation that I am appreciated by the people I care about and internalize it when I sense rejection (even if they are not outright rejecting me). It causes a lot of stress, and I can go over this over and over in my head like a broken record, wondering what I have done to cause this. Sometimes the Bipolar makes it worse, because my emotions could be inappropriate given the situation when I sense rejection, like by taking too many pills to numb the pain, getting disproportionately angry (which sometimes I keep inside....not making it any more helpful).

This is definitely something I am trying to work on since we are all rejected sooner or later by someone, since none of us can constantly live up to our expectations. This can come from childhood or adolescence, but honestly, I'm still searching for the reason why I've become this way. I also hate when it is "unclear" whether I'm being rejected or not....like when someone isn't writing you off completely, but they simply aren't happy with you at that moment in time or have other obligations. It's a lot to deal with.
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