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Old Sep 29, 2016, 05:46 AM
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if i stopped taking my meds? i dont want to take them anymore i dont feel like i need them at all. they are causing me problems. specifically i am psychic and they are causing problems in that department and i really cant have them doing that with so many bad spirits around lately.

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Old Sep 29, 2016, 07:21 AM
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Eden, what psychic abilities do you believe you have? What have you been able to do in the past? Sorry you feel the meds are not helping you. Maybe there are other meds that can calm you down without harming you.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 07:38 AM
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There are lots of safe, natural ways to treat bipolar using the mineral lithium orotate along with amino acids. I have bipolar 2 and have been using this combination for 9+ years, and have been very stable on it.

Check out the following web sites:
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This is a great book on using amino acids to treat various conditions. I have it and have found it extremely helpful. Heal with Amino Acids and Nutrients book | Dr. Billie Sahley-painstress

One last comment. Don't let people convince you that you have to take meds. I've had bipolar for 48 years, diagnosed almost 22 years ago, on meds for the first 13 years after being diagnosed and wasn't nearly as stable as I am now. Plus, the side-effects were so bad I was virtually bedridden they made me so sick. Now I do fine as I'm giving my brain what it needs to produce the necessary neurotransmitters to keep my mood in check. When it starts to shift, I take whatever amino acid or lithium needed to bring it back to where it needs to be. I don't have to wait for a Pdoc to call me back and tell me what she wants me to do--I'm in control of my own life. And my mood shifts don't last nearly as long as they did on meds as I treat it sooner, and the treatment is very effective. I realize my situation is probably somewhat unique, but I honestly believe it's very doable if a person is willing to learn about natural treatments, and give their body adequate nutrients for it to function properly. I believe so many people don't see results when they try supplements because they don't take enough. The RDAs set by the government are the minimum needed to keep you from developing diseases related to that nutrient. For example, the RDA for iodine is 150 mcg which is what your thyroid needs so you don't develop a goiter. It isn't enough to really make you healthy, just enough so you don't have a massive growth on your neck. Same with vitamin C & D--just enough so you don't get scurvy or rickets, but not enough for your body to have enough to make repairs to your cells. Hollywood celebrities are very into mega-vitamin therapy as they know their bodies need adequate nutrients to function, and one cheap multi-vitamin isn't going to do the trick.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 07:40 AM
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Eden, what psychic abilities do you believe you have? What have you been able to do in the past? Sorry you feel the meds are not helping you. Maybe there are other meds that can calm you down without harming you.
there are a few but like i am having trouble connecting to the spirit world properly and if i dont do it properly then bad horrible awful things can happen and i really dont want that. also normally i can notice the bad spirits faster but the meds are making this hard and that is also dangerous cause the bad spirits want to hurt me. i just really shouldnt be taking the meds anymore. it is just hard cause when my case worker gets back she is going to ask and i dont think i should tell her why cause i am scared of what she will do.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 09:30 AM
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There are lots of safe, natural ways to treat bipolar using the mineral lithium orotate along with amino acids. I have bipolar 2 and have been using this combination for 9+ years, and have been very stable on it.

Check out the following web sites:
Alternative Mental Health

This is a great book on using amino acids to treat various conditions. I have it and have found it extremely helpful. Heal with Amino Acids and Nutrients book | Dr. Billie Sahley-painstress

One last comment. Don't let people convince you that you have to take meds. I've had bipolar for 48 years, diagnosed almost 22 years ago, on meds for the first 13 years after being diagnosed and wasn't nearly as stable as I am now. Plus, the side-effects were so bad I was virtually bedridden they made me so sick. Now I do fine as I'm giving my brain what it needs to produce the necessary neurotransmitters to keep my mood in check. When it starts to shift, I take whatever amino acid or lithium needed to bring it back to where it needs to be. I don't have to wait for a Pdoc to call me back and tell me what she wants me to do--I'm in control of my own life. And my mood shifts don't last nearly as long as they did on meds as I treat it sooner, and the treatment is very effective. I realize my situation is probably somewhat unique, but I honestly believe it's very doable if a person is willing to learn about natural treatments, and give their body adequate nutrients for it to function properly. I believe so many people don't see results when they try supplements because they don't take enough. The RDAs set by the government are the minimum needed to keep you from developing diseases related to that nutrient. For example, the RDA for iodine is 150 mcg which is what your thyroid needs so you don't develop a goiter. It isn't enough to really make you healthy, just enough so you don't have a massive growth on your neck. Same with vitamin C & D--just enough so you don't get scurvy or rickets, but not enough for your body to have enough to make repairs to your cells. Hollywood celebrities are very into mega-vitamin therapy as they know their bodies need adequate nutrients to function, and one cheap multi-vitamin isn't going to do the trick.

I like your posts.

this isn't the first 1 i've seen that is useful.

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Old Sep 29, 2016, 09:50 AM
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I like your posts.

this isn't the first 1 i've seen that is useful.

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Thanks shattered sanity. I try to share what I've been through as I think it's quite common. My success isn't unusual either as so many of our issues really do have to do with our brains not being given the necessary nutrients to function properly. I don't doubt that those of us with a family history of bipolar, depression and other mental health disorders have problems either absorbing or getting enough of the nutrients to keep us on an even keel. With the advances in medical science there's no reason we can't live healthy, happy lives not tied to Pdoc, Ts and the like. Building health is the wave of the future, not treating illness.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 10:49 AM
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Back to the question though what would happen if I just stopped cause there is this big black warning on the box saying do not suddenly stop taking this medication. I am just wondering why that is there and what would happen like more in the now.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 11:30 AM
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Google the prescribing information.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 11:42 AM
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Back to the question though what would happen if I just stopped cause there is this big black warning on the box saying do not suddenly stop taking this medication. I am just wondering why that is there and what would happen like more in the now.
It is dangerous to just stop your medication, You're best contacting your doctor in order to stop them so he can guide you on what to do.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 12:14 PM
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Thanks LucyG . I'm going to give the lithium of oratate a try in till my appointment . When last I was on lithium I was on 900 mg a day. How do I know what dosage of the lithium oratate to take?
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 01:41 PM
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You just spent around a month in the hospital because of psychosis and you are abruptly stopping your meds without medical assistance and without contacting your doctor. Sorry, can't support you in that. It will very likely turn out very badly for you. Bad decision under your particular circumstances.

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Old Sep 29, 2016, 01:50 PM
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Thanks LucyG . I'm going to give the lithium of oratate a try in till my appointment . When last I was on lithium I was on 900 mg a day. How do I know what dosage of the lithium oratate to take?
Lithium orotate is a mineral supplement, not a drug. I buy mine through Amazon.com
Here's a link:
https://www.amazon.com/NCI-Advanced-...ithium+orotate

Based on my research, the most you can take a day is 40 mg, and it comes in 5 mg caplets. I normally take 20 mg every morning, and if I'm wound up or can't sleep, I take a couple more up to the 40 mg. Be sure at start with the lowest dosage and see how you do on it.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 06:20 PM
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Ok seriously I already googled it and nothing useful came up and all I want to know is WHAT happens like do you turn into a green monster does your head explode like do you get pins and needles everywhere? What happens? If no one knows that is ok just say so.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 06:26 PM
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You just spent around a month in the hospital because of psychosis and you are abruptly stopping your meds without medical assistance and without contacting your doctor. Sorry, can't support you in that. It will very likely turn out very badly for you. Bad decision under your particular circumstances.
Ok firstly I haven't stopped yet that is why I am asking the question and secondly I dispute the allegation of being "psychotic" I am fine was fine and just because I am psychic doesn't mean I am "sick" also I really do have magical powers I have used them. I would contact my doctor if I knew which one I was supposed to be seeing but no one will tell me that either.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 06:28 PM
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Lithium orotate is a mineral supplement, not a drug. I buy mine through Amazon.com
Here's a link:
https://www.amazon.com/NCI-Advanced-...ithium+orotate

Based on my research, the most you can take a day is 40 mg, and it comes in 5 mg caplets. I normally take 20 mg every morning, and if I'm wound up or can't sleep, I take a couple more up to the 40 mg. Be sure at start with the lowest dosage and see how you do on it.
Amazons shipping is so expensive if you live in Australia the most I have ever been quoted was $300 just for shipping!
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 06:43 PM
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It depends on what meds you are on. Some you have to taper off to do it safely. I agree with bioChE. Look it up. Or buttercup11, ask your pdoc. Get good info before jumping off that ledge, sweetie.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 07:14 PM
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If you abruptly stop your meds you can have an episode. You really don't sound so well right now. I wouldn't advise you to stop but maybe to switch meds since this one clearly never was working from what I've been reading. Please don't go through this all over again. Contact your pdoc.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 10:03 PM
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If you abruptly stop your meds you can have an episode. You really don't sound so well right now. I wouldn't advise you to stop but maybe to switch meds since this one clearly never was working from what I've been reading. Please don't go through this all over again. Contact your pdoc.
thank you for answering my question i really dont think they will do anything with the meds even when i told my case worker how i was feeling before they didnt do anything just made and note and said give the meds a few more weeks.
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Old Sep 29, 2016, 10:54 PM
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Stop taking your meds and find out. If that's really what you want to do. I don't know what you expect us to say.
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Depending on the med you could have a seizure.
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I think she is only taking abilify...but could be wrong.
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I think she is only taking abilify...but could be wrong.
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yes i am only taking abilify
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Old Sep 30, 2016, 02:25 AM
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You're playing with fire. Everyone has given you good advice. Please heed it and like everyone said in your other thread-call your pdoc. You ask questions but when we answer you always have an excuse. Please don't put yourself through the mania again.
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