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#1
May 22, 2018, 07:15 PM
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This is a technical issue but I am not going to talk about it in technical terms … Last night a tv special explained how when we sleep deeply the synapses in our brain spread apart allowing fluid in the brain to “wash” away plaque that other wise would buildup stopping the flow basically leading to “causing” , alzheimer’s ..
now I think we all know that sleep is the first casualty of bipolar … so it’s not hard to see the connection … my question is the lack of good deep sleep an effect of bipolar or the cause … I know in my experience the better I sleep the better I do … the better I feel … the better I relate to others … I also know just how hard it is to get “good” sleep on a regular basis … I really wish the pdoc’s would spend more effort on improving our sleep before dumbing up down so much with there meds … deadening senses is no substitute for good sleep … if you have a strategy that works for you and your “good” sleep … please share it here … … Tigger . |
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#2
May 22, 2018, 07:53 PM
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Well it's not 100% effective but it has helped alot to have a bedtime. 10:45 every night on the dot. It's not self imposed so having to "answer" to someone else for not complying helps me stick to it...but that's a subject for a whole different forum, lol.
ok, that was your last question ever I hope you know...you said it, not me. 
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#3
May 22, 2018, 09:27 PM
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Agree with you Tig ... sleep is one problem every person with BP has at some point or another.
I can’t get to sleep but once in bed and I do sleep a bit I can’t stand to drag myself out of it. Unless I have to go somewhere I could easily stay in bed 19 hours a day. PTSD thank you byytch
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#4
May 22, 2018, 09:46 PM
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I was told by once Doctor that the reason they drug us out at first is to tourniquet the problem. Then they try to figure out what to do next. I went through many Doctors who took this approach before I met the one who actually told me sleep is the number one priority right now. I guess what I'm saying is that I found someone who made it their priority to make me sleep well.
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#5
May 23, 2018, 01:10 AM
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I have thought the same thing so many times! I know that sleep is essential to stability, WHY don't pdocs work with that first?
I had an excellent sleep regime before February (I still took sleep meds, but my sleep was good). I went to bed every night absolutely no later than 10 p.m. Usually earlier. Then I had a manic episode in February. It was pretty severe. Since then I am staying up until midnight because if I go to bed I don't fall asleep anyway, for hours. I'm awake at dawn, get up and open the curtains so the cats can see out of the windows. Stay up for a while. Get very sleepy. Go back to bed and sleep like a rock at that time, better than I slept all night. So, my sleep right now is not great. |
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#6
May 23, 2018, 02:25 AM
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I'm up at 3 am yet again. Sleeping is a problem this time of year. I'm using a CPAP machine, & my pdoc prescribes 30 mg of Restoril & 2 mg of Klonopin for sleep, but this "benzo bomb" doesn't even do any good. I've just resigned myself to the fact that I'm just wired to be sleep deprived this time of year. In other words, despite my pdoc's best efforts, I'm doomed to livng with 3-4 hours of sleep for the next few months. The only time I've even had manic episodes have been this time of year...I hope I'm not headed there again.
At least I've got Kendrick Lamar's "Damn" to listen to on YouTube in the wee hours. |
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#7
May 23, 2018, 09:40 AM
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Buy a 20@ sledgehammer and apply lightly and carefully to the top of the head. Several times if possible, increasing force with each blow.
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#8
May 23, 2018, 03:06 PM
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I do have a routine where I clear my mind before going to sleep, but my brain still rambles on sometimes. Until recently I also slept lighter, so I woke up more. Now that I'm back on Lunesta I hope to get better sleep.
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#9
May 23, 2018, 03:36 PM
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think Columbo ... just one more ... 
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May 23, 2018, 04:34 PM
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Oh, corner you I shall...I teach Language Arts after all  You used just as an adverb to mean exactly one more question. You could ask another. It would just negate your previous statement.  
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#11
May 23, 2018, 05:17 PM
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I consider the fact that my sleep has been addressed ( 20 mg of ambien, melatonin, Benadryl plus my other night meds, same bedtime every night and a book to read ) to be the foundation of my long period of stability.
In the past the sledgehammer often had nasty side effects.....ringing in the ears nasty red stains on the pillow cases.....you know the type of things
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#12
May 23, 2018, 05:28 PM
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#13
May 23, 2018, 06:54 PM
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what's an adverb ...? further more ... who's on first ... what's on second ... I don't know on third ... huh .. lol .. |
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May 23, 2018, 07:37 PM
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I will send you my copy of Dearly, Nearly, Insincerely. What Is an Adverb? if you don't stop winding me up.   On a positive note, I bet the book with put you to sleep  ...and she brings it full circle back to topic. *takes a bow* no applause necessary
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#15
May 24, 2018, 07:04 AM
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My pdoc actually focused a lot on sleep in the beginning. I wondered why, after all, I knew nothing about bipolar disorder at the time. Of course he placed me on a mood stabilizer, but the majority of our time was spent talking about sleep. He even sent me for a sleep study.
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