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Old Oct 22, 2019, 10:17 PM
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I've been hypomanic for the past couple of weeks, and I noticed I've started purging a lot more. I just feel so uncomfortable with food in my stomach. It feels like it's slowing me down and I don't want that.

Anyone else notice a relationship between eating disorders and manic/depressed episodes in bipolar?
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Old Oct 22, 2019, 11:00 PM
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When I'm either side my ed gets worse.
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Old Oct 22, 2019, 11:16 PM
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i went on a 30 day juice fast while mixed. not good. i did lose 30 lbs. i don't think i have a disorder so much as...

well, once i just could not sit still to eat, went from 175 to 127 in a very short time (I'm a dude, 5'10). when i was younger, my anxiety and undercurrent of agitation made me so on edge, i tended to throw up a lot, but it wasn't intentional. now, im tubs mcgee, and i do think depression plays a role, along with meds (abilify is not always- weight neutral...).

once thing...as i've 'recovered,' i've come to connect with my body better, more completely. i was divorced from my body, somehow, when i was younger...i existed in it, didn't really live in it, if that makes sense. no longer, and im thankful.

interesting topic, btw. :-)
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Old Oct 23, 2019, 06:22 AM
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I just eat because I have to.

As long as my blood sugar stays stable I can avoid food for many hours. But as soon as it starts to go down I have to eat something, otherwise I can't think, and things go downhill from there.

When I'm at my baseline, which was 2 years ago now, I eat regularly and enjoy it.
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Old Oct 23, 2019, 09:52 AM
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HI Franz, Always good to see you joining in with us!

For me, I tend to gain weight when depressed. This is the case, even without meds like seroquel. I do gain a lot more when using Seroquel.

Interesting topic!
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Old Oct 24, 2019, 06:25 AM
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Hi Franz. I also enjoy seeing you back!

I don't have an eating disorder, but like Wild Coyote, my moods sometimes affect my weight. When manic, I might either totally forget to eat or the opposite -- start eating lavishly. Yes, lavishly is the right word. I also stress eat a lot. My stress eating often leads to minor binges. Honestly, I believe stress and moods affect my weight even more than my Seroquel XR, and I won't deny that larger Seroquel doses make me hungrier.

Another issue I have had in my life (even since childhood) is occasional gastrointestinal distress. I think that has either been caused by or exacerbated by stress and/or mood issues. In such cases, my eating is affected. Often, it decreases my appetite in a bad way. I remember as a kid barely eating anything for weeks. My mother took me to a doctor. The doctor screened me to be sure it wasn't anorexia. It wasn't. I just felt nauseated at the thought of eating, or when I tried. I've always dreaded vomiting. Probably more than the average person. I also remember losing almost 20 lbs quickly during my senior year at college. I reached 118 lbs, which for me was/is underweight. I have photos from then. I was very skinny in a not so good way. I knew that and was happy when I returned to a healthier weight.

Maybe about 5 years ago, I had a period of approximately 2 years of frequent migraines. I have a relatively high tolerance for pain, so the head pain wasn't that bad, but I did vomit A LOT. It was horrible! Luckily I was prescribed sumatriptan injections. Maybe 15 mins after an injection, the nausea/vomiting and any head pain would stop. Before sumatriptan, every time I had a migraine, I couldn't eat or even drink that much without it coming up.

I know I've gone off topic a bit. I'm sorry. I wish I was more knowledgeable about neurochemistry and neuropsychology. I know next to nothing about them. I mention this only out of curiosity about why 5-HT serotonin levels are said to play a possible role in conditions like EDs, migraines, bipolar disorder, some other mental health conditions, as well as maybe some types of seizures, fibromyalgia, more? Maybe that is not significant/relevant.

On topic article about eating disorders and 5-HT serotonin connection: Eating disorders and the serotonin connection: state, trait and developmental effects If you google any of the other illnesses in my paragraph above with 5-HT you'll see the sources of my curiosity on this topic.

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Old Oct 30, 2019, 09:42 AM
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I have symptoms of ed and when I'm depressed I accidentally lose weight because I can't get out of my bed so I only eat when I feel like totally starving.

And when on the higher side, well then I have the energy and motivation to lose weight. But it can also happen that my self confidence and self-image get so much better that I don't try to actively lose weight. And sometimes hypomania affects my senses so that colours become brighter and all the food tastes great. So it really varies when I'm having a hypomanic or manic episode.

And same, I don't like the feeling of having food in my stomach.
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Old Oct 31, 2019, 08:12 AM
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I'm currently in recovery from an ED (bulimia). When I'm manic I tend to get hyper focused on exercising and forget to eat, also because I'm so preoccupied with a million other things. There are times though where I go a little crazy with baking in the middle of the night all kinds of desserts and treats because I'm so inspired and have a lot of energy, that leads to bingeing. When I'm depressed I often stress eat, but sometimes just not eating much at all because of not having an appetite or not feeling like getting up and getting something to eat.
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Old Oct 31, 2019, 01:35 PM
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With mania, the ED always gets worse, even without trying, I just don't even think to eat. Or I'll tell myself I can have breakfast after I've run X miles, done the laundry, taken care of the cats, gone grocery shopping, etc. I always run more (both distance wise and number of days of the week) when manic.

And sometimes, too, I will throw myself into the ED, going to pro-ED websites, taking pictures of parts of my body, overexercising.

I'm "recovered" from anorexia, though when times are tough, I do have little relapses. I have yet to have the ED thoughts completely vanish even when not engaging in ED behavior.
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