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Old Apr 29, 2020, 07:26 PM
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Im sorry for everyone thats not sleeping much or its sucky sleep ... Very trying times we are in..

Sorry I'm having trouble finding words today but I am keeping you all in my thoughts and hoping you get some much needed restorative sleep tonight
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 01:22 AM
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It's almost 1:30 in the morning and still wide awake. I slept a long time last night though so I guess it all evens out.......(at least that is what I tell myself)

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Old Apr 30, 2020, 02:22 AM
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8.20 am, I'm usually in bed at this time. I had about 5 hours of sleep? (I thought it was 6 but it was quite a bit less than that as Papa bear confirmed.
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 11:23 AM
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Ugh, what a night. I ate corn chips and cheese dip right before bed, a big no no! Couldn't sleep so read for the longest time. Then when I turned my light off mum turned hers on. And hour later when she turned it off I was still awake. I was playing pillow ring a Rosie. Oh my neck, nothing was comfortable. I did eventually fall asleep but the room was light at 5 am! My bones hurt.
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 12:13 PM
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I'm new here, but I'm definitely a member of the insomnia club... Nothing like being forced to be awake in the quiet dark with my brain... oy. I hope you get some sleep soon! <3
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 01:11 PM
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I am brand new here... I have had insomnia issues for years and other problems. I got what I call split-sleep, 5 hours overnight, then + 1 hour this morning. Thankfully no work schedule to keep. I remember when life wasn’t like this, and sometimes I grieve it as a death. For me it is probably hypomania, and I have had poor luck in finding the right solutions and/or meds, Drs. for my disorders. So my pattern is get a few nights of restorative sleep followed by nights with just a few hours to where I really feel bad physically and really irritable. Then kind of a crash, and some good sleep again. I hope I can navigate my way back here, cheers fellow insomniacs
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 07:08 PM
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I had bad anxiety last night that kept me awake. I kept thinking that someone was going to break into my car and install cameras. I wanted to go out to check on my car, but I was afraid I would get hurt by the perpetrator.

I do have a single-car garage with an automatic door that locks, and I always do lock my car inside too, but the garage spot is not near my window, so I cannot see it from my apartment.

I managed to fall asleep around 10:30pm, but I woke up at 4am. Bleh. I do not know why I cannot get normal sleep. I guess I will look like a druggie when I beg my pdoc for some klonopin the next time I see him.
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 09:41 PM
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Ugh, what a night. I ate corn chips and cheese dip right before bed, a big no no! Couldn't sleep so read for the longest time. Then when I turned my light off mum turned hers on. And hour later when she turned it off I was still awake. I was playing pillow ring a Rosie. Oh my neck, nothing was comfortable. I did eventually fall asleep but the room was light at 5 am! My bones hurt.

YUCK ! I sure do hope tonight is much better
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 09:42 PM
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I'm new here, but I'm definitely a member of the insomnia club... Nothing like being forced to be awake in the quiet dark with my brain... oy. I hope you get some sleep soon! <3
Welcome to the club I hope you sleep well tonight
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 09:45 PM
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I am brand new here... I have had insomnia issues for years and other problems. I got what I call split-sleep, 5 hours overnight, then + 1 hour this morning. Thankfully no work schedule to keep. I remember when life wasn’t like this, and sometimes I grieve it as a death. For me it is probably hypomania, and I have had poor luck in finding the right solutions and/or meds, Drs. for my disorders. So my pattern is get a few nights of restorative sleep followed by nights with just a few hours to where I really feel bad physically and really irritable. Then kind of a crash, and some good sleep again. I hope I can navigate my way back here, cheers fellow insomniacs

Welcome to the Club

I hope that you can get back on track with consistent sleep.. My "normal" right now is 3 days no sleep, then I sleep 5-6 hours then back awake for 3 days.
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 09:46 PM
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Blue Im sorry your still struggling .. Hope tonight you can log some good deep restorative sleep , your due for it
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Old May 01, 2020, 04:20 AM
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I got a couple of hours of really good sleep so I am good to go for today (even though it's 4am).

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Old May 01, 2020, 04:54 AM
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I had bad anxiety last night that kept me awake. I kept thinking that someone was going to break into my car and install cameras. I wanted to go out to check on my car, but I was afraid I would get hurt by the perpetrator.

I do have a single-car garage with an automatic door that locks, and I always do lock my car inside too, but the garage spot is not near my window, so I cannot see it from my apartment.

I managed to fall asleep around 10:30pm, but I woke up at 4am. Bleh. I do not know why I cannot get normal sleep. I guess I will look like a druggie when I beg my pdoc for some klonopin the next time I see him.
Hey blue,

I, too, am sorry you're having difficulty sleeping.
It seems as though klonopin has often proven very helpful to you, rather consistently.

Pdocs are used to klonopin being very helpful to some people.
As you've mentioned, pdocs might also feel like a client is drug-seeking.

You're in a challenging position. Should you request klonopin or not? Will he think you are seeking drugs?

I think the very best you can do is to fully advocate for yourself. Clearly present circumstances in which klonopin has helped you in a truly significant way.

I absolutely know of times when klonopin was the only med so helpful to you. You've most often not had enough klonopin on hand to achieve prolonged relief. You tend to settle for much less than you often need. As long as I've known you, you've never been a drug seeker.

I hope you will feel confident in expressing your need for the relief you experience with klonopin. I also hope your pdoc will listen deeply to your experiences and will fully understand your needs.

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Old May 01, 2020, 07:05 AM
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Thanks, WC and Christina.

I got 8 hours of sleep last night. I slept from 10pm until 4am, then 5am until 7am. However, I still need 10 hours to feel fully rested, so obviously I'm still tired.

Part of the reason I stayed up from 4am until 5am is that the people were making fun of me again. They were whispering about me and laughing at me, but not the same man and woman before (man in his 60s and woman in her 50s). A different man and woman (in their 20s like me) were doing it. They were doing it after I woke up at 7am, too.

I don't really like using klonopin because I don't want to build up a dependency on it, so I definitely try not to take it everyday. I agree that it is helpful for me, though. I'm going to try asking for some more, but who knows what'll happen. I'll at least ask for a backup idea in case he says no, but I'll likely get told benadryl (which is a suggestion from his previous idiot "assistant" who he defended). I really wish that I could get a new pdoc, but I think now is a bad time to do it, mostly because I'm not doing well with sleep.
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Old May 01, 2020, 10:12 AM
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Hey blue and Wild Coyote,

I'm sorry you're having difficulty sleeping blue

I also have found that a benzo is often the only thing that helps me with sleep.
(I have not been labelled as a ''drug seeker''... to be honest labels like that make me very angry. Maybe that makes me ''wrong'' to be angry about ''diagnoses'' like that being flung about by professionals irl who then use that wrong ''diagnosis'' to ''justify'' their sub optimal ''care'' (irl)

I have been looking for a long time for a doctor or therapist in this forest irl who will listen deeply to my experiences and will fully understand my needs.

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Hey blue,

I, too, am sorry you're having difficulty sleeping.
It seems as though klonopin has often proven very helpful to you, rather consistently.

Pdocs are used to klonopin being very helpful to some people.
As you've mentioned, pdocs might also feel like a client is drug-seeking.

You're in a challenging position. Should you request klonopin or not? Will he think you are seeking drugs?

I think the very best you can do is to fully advocate for yourself. Clearly present circumstances in which klonopin has helped you in a truly significant way.

I absolutely know of times when klonopin was the only med so helpful to you. You've most often not had enough klonopin on hand to achieve prolonged relief. You tend to settle for much less than you often need. As long as I've known you, you've never been a drug seeker.

I hope you will feel confident in expressing your need for the relief you experience with klonopin. I also hope your pdoc will listen deeply to your experiences and will fully understand your needs.

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Old May 01, 2020, 01:44 PM
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No sleeps, again.

Brain will not shut up and I'm constantly checking my husbands Oxygen levels while he is sleeping..

I had 26-27 episodes of ER on my DVR so I binged all night long. Its a good escape for me
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Old May 01, 2020, 01:54 PM
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I did eventually sleep. Odd dream. Hard to put into words cause it wasn't like a movie, it jumped all around. But mainly it was a cousin I basicly grew up with but haven't seen in decades. She has a multilevel apartment. There are toys everywhere but I think they were for dogs not kids. It was Christmas, but not. There was a giant tennis racket sized ink press. I was staying there while she was in the "city" but the apartment was in a city too. Paris maybe.
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Nammu I truly love your dreams
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Yeah, Nammu's dreams are nice. All I got last night was a nightmare with penguins peeing on my carpet, me catching coronavirus, and me going back to high school despite knowing in my dreams that I am 28. This is the fourth "returning to high school" dream I have had in the past two months.

Anyways, I officially just got done with work around 8pm as opposed to the expected 7pm end time. I am debating on whether or not to take my meds tonight. I feel like Rexulti just makes things worse, and my other meds just sedate me but don't put me to sleep. I feel like i'd be better off on klonopin alone at this rate. That's how poorly my meds work.
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Old May 02, 2020, 05:39 AM
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Yeah, Nammu's dreams are nice. All I got last night was a nightmare with penguins peeing on my carpet, me catching coronavirus, and me going back to high school despite knowing in my dreams that I am 28. This is the fourth "returning to high school" dream I have had in the past two months.

Anyways, I officially just got done with work around 8pm as opposed to the expected 7pm end time. I am debating on whether or not to take my meds tonight. I feel like Rexulti just makes things worse, and my other meds just sedate me but don't put me to sleep. I feel like i'd be better off on klonopin alone at this rate. That's how poorly my meds work.
The inadequate sleep issue must be very frustrating.

If I recall correctly, you had stopped Rexulti because you'd thought it made things worse for you. You met with your pdoc in hopes of having the option of trying a new med. He'd wanted you to try a full month of consistently taking Rexulti first.

He did mention a new med which might be a helpful option for you.

The question is: Will he prescribe the newer med for you if you have not completed the month of consistent Rexulti use? Or has it already been a month? Lol!

I do hope he will listen and will prescribe the newer med for you.

In the meantime, be careful. While it seems Rexulti does not do enough for you, you can experience more psychosis by stopping Rexulti.

I support you in whatever you decide. I do hope you get more relief soon.
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Old May 02, 2020, 05:45 AM
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As many know, I'd had chronic insomnia. I now want to sleep almost 24/7. I believe it's a shift in mood. That's the good news! At least some of us will experience relief from insomnia if/as we cycle in BP illness

Peaceful Sleep and Much Love .
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The inadequate sleep issue must be very frustrating.

If I recall correctly, you had stopped Rexulti because you'd thought it made things worse for you. You met with your pdoc in hopes of having the option of trying a new med. He'd wanted you to try a full month of consistently taking Rexulti first.

He did mention a new med which might be a helpful option for you.

The question is: Will he prescribe the newer med for you if you have not completed the month of consistent Rexulti use? Or has it already been a month? Lol!

I do hope he will listen and will prescribe the newer med for you.

In the meantime, be careful. While it seems Rexulti does not do enough for you, you can experience more psychosis by stopping Rexulti.

I support you in whatever you decide. I do hope you get more relief soon.
yeah, but i wonder if my voices are tied to specific rexulti dosages. what I mean is: why am I not hearing things as often when I'm on a lower rexulti dose? granted, I do get depressed on those lower doses, but my point is that I think the med is just bad for me nowadays.

and no, it has not been a month. I have a pdoc appointment coming up, but I don't know when. I have to look it up in my email messages or call the front desk if it's not there (but obviously they're closed right now).

I didn't take my meds anyway because I was binge watching Netflix until about 12:30am. then I woke up at 4am and was like, "whatever. guess I'll just watch some more Netflix." so I did. I'm not tired/groggy like I normally am.
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Old May 02, 2020, 08:21 AM
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Just recently I've been getting a little more sleep. So I'm really glad about that. I dream of having more energy so I can solve some of my problems.
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With trazodone I can sleep pretty well.
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Old May 02, 2020, 07:02 PM
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I slept ! it was a total chemical takedown of course and I have the med hangover

But my brain was shut down for a while. Much needed !!!!!
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