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Moose72 · Jul 21, 2021 at 10:10 PM

My case manager asked me if I wanted to continue treatment with the facility I'm currently at with her and my pdoc. I told her yes. She seemed to act like I've been stable for so long that what- I could just ride off into the sunset and ladeeda? I mean just because my meds are working at the moment doesn't mean that this will go on indefinitely.

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Now I'm feeling worried/paranoid again. I don't want to be dropped and have no help. I mean I know there's always the psych emergency services... Even though I hate being there for days on end with no sleep I feel those thoughts of overdosing calling me. Just to disappear. No nothing "happened" recently. I just feel called toward this. Plus my two teeth that I bit down hard on several days ago hurts and I can't afford another crown. Anyway yeah. Didn't tell pdoc this.

Victoria'smom · Jul 22, 2021 at 01:16 AM

How often do you see them? My T says paranoia is something to protect me because it comes often when I am stressed. maybe that's what's going on? Or was this happening before? Can you fall asleep or do something calm until sleep comes?

Moose72 · Jul 22, 2021 at 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel'smom

How often do you see them? My T says paranoia is something to protect me because it comes often when I am stressed. maybe that's what's going on? Or was this happening before? Can you fall asleep or do something calm until sleep comes?

I could read but I know I wouldn't understand any of it. I think pdoc's call triggered me. I'm trying to sleep but can't. Good think I don't have to be up in 2 hours like I do on the weekends.

FluffyDinosaur · Jul 22, 2021 at 02:29 AM

I completely understand where you're coming from. IMHO one of the most important parts of bipolar treatment is PREVENTING episodes, which means continuing treatment even if things seem to be going well, so that symptoms can be caught early. It might make sense to scale down the frequency of appointments, but not to drop a patient completely. Suppose another episode creeps up, and you have to enter a waiting list for 6 months plus. By then it will be too late. By the time emergency services are necessary, it's too late. I hate when treatment providers are so short sighted and it results in preventable episodes getting completely out of hand. Sorry for the rant but this stuff pisses me off because it happened to me, too. I hope I'm just overreacting and they won't actually do this.

*Beth* · Jul 22, 2021 at 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Moose72

My case manager asked me if I wanted to continue treatment with the facility I'm currently at with her and my pdoc. I told her yes. She seemed to act like I've been stable for so long that what- I could just ride off into the sunset and ladeeda? I mean just because my meds are working at the moment doesn't mean that this will go on indefinitely.

Possible trigger:

Now I'm feeling worried/paranoid again. I don't want to be dropped and have no help. I mean I know there's always the psych emergency services... Even though I hate being there for days on end with no sleep I feel those thoughts of overdosing calling me. Just to disappear. No nothing "happened" recently. I just feel called toward this. Plus my two teeth that I bit down hard on several days ago hurts and I can't afford another crown. Anyway yeah. Didn't tell pdoc this.

Mental health professional confuse me with their "You're stable now, so forget you have a serious disorder and live a normal life." "Stable" doesn't necessarily mean we can suddenly make a bunch of changes in our lives, because that's can be a perfect way to lose stability...

*Beth* · Jul 22, 2021 at 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FluffyDinosaur

I completely understand where you're coming from. IMHO one of the most important parts of bipolar treatment is PREVENTING episodes, which means continuing treatment even if things seem to be going well, so that symptoms can be caught early. It might make sense to scale down the frequency of appointments, but not to drop a patient completely. Suppose another episode creeps up, and you have to enter a waiting list for 6 months plus. By then it will be too late. By the time emergency services are necessary, it's too late. I hate when treatment providers are so short sighted and it results in preventable episodes getting completely out of hand. Sorry for the rant but this stuff pisses me off because it happened to me, too. I hope I'm just overreacting and they won't actually do this.

Oh, so true!

Moose72 · Jul 22, 2021 at 08:35 AM

I didn't think of this last night but this morning I took one prn "for intrusive thoughts" Haldol. We'll see if it works.

HALLIEBETH87 · Jul 22, 2021 at 10:58 PM

It could also be that you’ve met treatment goals and insurance won’t cover sessions without cause. That’s a big issue in USA

Moose72 · Jul 23, 2021 at 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HALLIEBETH87

It could also be that you’ve met treatment goals and insurance won’t cover sessions without cause. That’s a big issue in USA

So I'm never allowed to have any psych issues again- never allowed

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to be suicidal again

? That's just it? With a chronic disease? Bipolar can't just be "cured" like that.

Fuzzybear · Jul 29, 2021 at 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FluffyDinosaur

I completely understand where you're coming from. IMHO one of the most important parts of bipolar treatment is PREVENTING episodes, which means continuing treatment even if things seem to be going well, so that symptoms can be caught early. It might make sense to scale down the frequency of appointments, but not to drop a patient completely. Suppose another episode creeps up, and you have to enter a waiting list for 6 months plus. By then it will be too late. By the time emergency services are necessary, it's too late. I hate when treatment providers are so short sighted and it results in preventable episodes getting completely out of hand. Sorry for the rant but this stuff pisses me off because it happened to me, too. I hope I'm just overreacting and they won't actually do this.

I agree. Dropping a patient completely is WRONG. It pisses me off too.

Fuzzybear · Jul 29, 2021 at 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Moose72

So I'm never allowed to have any psych issues again- never allowed

Possible trigger:

to be suicidal again

? That's just it? With a chronic disease? Bipolar can't just be "cured" like that.

They sound insane, sorry to put it that way. I've encountered providers who are that way too.

I hope you find some who are more humane and wise,

*Beth* · Jul 29, 2021 at 02:05 PM

Moose, are you out there?

Moose72 · Jul 29, 2021 at 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BethRags

Moose, are you out there?

I updated my thread "Down and Empty". It's a little rambling, but it will feel good to sleep in my own bed again. I got a shower here at home and am feeling good. There was no internet access at the ER or at the hospital.

HALLIEBETH87 · Jul 31, 2021 at 11:04 AM

What can I say? Insurance companies suck

MickeyCheeky · Jul 31, 2021 at 04:21 PM

So Sorry you're struggling! Please Do not give up! i Hope you're feeling better now. i agree with the other wise and wonderful posters that treatment can be important even when one feels stable to take care and prevent other episodes. Love. Sending many Safe, warm hugs to BOTH you, @Moose72, your Family, your Friends and ALL of your Loved Ones! Keep fighting and keep rocking NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, OK?!

Moose72 · Jul 31, 2021 at 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeyCheeky

So Sorry you're struggling! Please Do not give up! i Hope you're feeling better now. i agree with the other wise and wonderful posters that treatment can be important even when one feels stable to take care and prevent other episodes. Love. Sending many Safe, warm hugs to BOTH you, @Moose72, your Family, your Friends and ALL of your Loved Ones! Keep fighting and keep rocking NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, OK?!

Yes, I am feeling better now since being out of the hospital. I am looking at the flowers that my friend sent me in the hospital. They are still beautiful. I watered them today. I have a phone appointment with my NP's RN in a few days. I dunno what she's going to say, but we'll see.

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