[LOSTnowFOUND]

Does anyone else just feel exhausted and rundown 24/7? It doesn't matter how much sleep I get, how much I rest or what I do to try and relax and get real rest. My therapist explained the reason I am so tired is because I feel my emotions and those of others all the time on a magnified scale.

Does anyone else experience this?

[Frankbtl]

Hi LOSTnowFOUND, probably don't need to ask these but just checking on the real basics........your T may be right, but have you had a complete/full medical just in case there's anything else causing the tiredness?? And tiredness in itself can make feelings more intense/overwhelming/draining if tiredness is a possible cause.
And last one but could depression be a possibility, have you had that looked into??
Anyway, like I said maybe you've done all that.........??
And if your T is right, a good start might be to try to distance yourself a little, if you can, from other people's problems/emotions to give you a little more space to try and manage yours a little better. Just thinking...........maybe with your own emotions some grounding techniques or mindfulness exercises might help a little??????
Alison

[LOSTnowFOUND]

Hi!

Yes full medical work up. Saw an endlcrinologist a year ago and he gave an official though I think a bs answer of fibromyalgia. Checked thyroid, hormones, etc. Thyroid levels were a little off so I am on meds for that. I am overweight but overeating is one of the way I punish myself for all my sins. Working on this through therapy.

I do struggle with depression and anxiety. On meds cymbalta and lamitcal (sp).

I have been pulling myself out of those situations. Been in therapy for six years and realized in the last six months that I take on other peoples problems so I don't have to work on my own. Been working on that too. Just starting DBT in therapy.

Thanks for taking with me.

[Frankbtl]

Hi LOSTandFOUND, thanks for the reply!!
Straight off though.......this bit "I am overweight but overeating is one of the way I punish myself for all my sins. Working on this through therapy"...........the therapy includes/focuses as well on the "punishing yourself for your sins", right??
I don't know your religious background so I'm really sorry if I'm overstepping the mark here, but it can be so easy to blame ourselves for things out of our control at the time.
But if we're not talking about that..........could you maybe rephrase "sins" as "mistakes"/"errors of judgement"??? And for some mistakes, then it's got to be much more productive to learn from them, learn how not to do them/or to reduce the risk of doing them again, if we can?? We might still make them, but if we can work towards.............???
But hopefully you're working on that??
Do you think the meds/side effects might be adding to the tiredness though, or they may even want increasing to help with the emotions.......to help with the tiredness?? It can sometimes take some "trial and error" to find correct doses.
Still, right now, got to really admire your commitment to therapy and keeping that going!! And it sounds like you're making some real breakthroughs there, getting some real insights. So really good on you!!
It can take time to work on insights and they can give you a lot more work sometimes when they come up, but they can be so important.
And good you're trying/starting DBT, it does work really well for some people. Maybe just allow it a little balance with other things too though because it might be a little difficult to take some of it on board to begin with (just like with anything new!!). So perhaps fall back on some other things if you need to e.g. coping skills you might have practiced, relaxation techniques.............
Sounds like you're really trying, taking action to work on what's going on for you though!! I know it can be hard, but.......kudos!!
And anytime you want to talk we're/I'm here.............

Alison

[LOSTnowFOUND]

My sins are my mistakes. I am a Christian. Saved by God and know I am forgiven for all I have done but I have not forgiven myself.

Struggle with a lot of horrible choices in my life. I feel deserving of my weight and my unhappiness. I feel undeserving of happiness in general.

I have been working hard to learn from my mistakes. It is a daily struggle.

[archipelago]

A medical check up is a good idea. Thyroid problems cause fatigue. Deficiencies do too. So do sleep disorders. As well as more serious conditions.

I looked into all of that because my fatigue was so bad that I was feeling like I would not be able to function at what I had to do and my depression became overwhelming. I shifted to a med that is an unusual stimulant (Provigil) and it restored some energy. Now I'm able to function better and try to do other things, like eat right, and exercise to also improve my energy level.

[LOSTnowFOUND]

Diagnosed with sleep apnea and restless leg syndrome three years ago. Have my machine. Diagnosed with high blood pressure in February of last year, thyroid defency and fibromyalgia. Diagnosed six years ago with depression and anxiety. Finally accepted the middle of last year I had to be on meds. Just started the lamitcal last month. I have been tired for years for at least the last two to three years. It's been really bad lately. I feel better when I exercise and eat right but I am too tired to exercise. When I feel the way I feel right now I overeat a lot which makes me feel worse.

I see my T in two weeks. I will talk to her about my meds. The lamitcal was for my rage. It helped but I have been on it for a month and I feel the way I did before.

I am tired of being tired.

[Frankbtl]

Hi, I'd say that you really should take as much comfort as you can from feeling that you've been forgiven and remind yourself of that as much as...........but I am really with you on personal responsibility.
Although sometimes the choices we make in life are the only ones we can/know to make at the time. And so much can go towards those choices, including things out of our control e.g. past experiences, influences, even things like anxiety, depression.............and we're only human.
And you know, sometimes it can be really hard to see the full consequences of things we do. Hindsight is a great thing, if only we had it before........!!.
So if that was the case at times then the choices you made weren't necessarily informed choices were they?
Sometimes it's as much about where we take our lives forward, where we end up on the journey. And even trying to do "the right thing" by ourselves and others. And I can tell you are focused on that.
So maybe give yourself a bit of "a break", hey?
It can be so hard to move on/forward, to become more of who we want to be if all we see/focus on is the past.
Alison

[LOSTnowFOUND]

All I know to focus on is the past and my regrets. I am literally day 3 into my workbook for DBT. Focusing on the past mistakes and issues is part of the BPD or so I understand. All the crap in my head, choices I make/made, rage issues, food issues.......the way I do everything apparently seems to be tied to BPD.

[NoChildSupport]

Originally Posted by LOSTnowFOUND

Does anyone else just feel exhausted and rundown 24/7? It doesn't matter how much sleep I get, how much I rest or what I do to try and relax and get real rest. My therapist explained the reason I am so tired is because I feel my emotions and those of others all the time on a magnified scale.

Does anyone else experience this?

I feel like that nearly all of the time. It's probably like your therapist said. I think WAAY toooo much & my emotions are extreme.

[LOSTnowFOUND]

I used to feel so alone. Since coming here I don't as much.

[Frankbtl]

Hi, yes absolutely keep the DBT as a focus. It can be about seeing things from a different, maybe more "realistic" (?) perspective, but let that work for you in putting the past more "behind you" and in making your future more as you would have wanted, less "emotionally entangled" (??).
And try not to fault yourself on your choices at the time, just like you said BPD could have been involved in a lot of those choices, if we can call them choices (!!), and if you didn't have the support at the time.................Although maybe some of those choices/mistakes could have been choices anyone could have made in your position, BPD or not,
There is a you underneath/despite/regardless of the BPD, it's maybe as much about gathering the skills to better manage the BPD/to manage the emotions. You are more than a diagnosis!!
And..........day 3 into your workbook..........well you have plenty of time yet to be getting help/support in working through things
Alison

[haleylaurel]

Originally Posted by NoChildSupport

I feel like that nearly all of the time. It's probably like your therapist said. I think WAAY toooo much & my emotions are extreme.

^^same here