[AlmostHappyattimes]

Hey peeps.

Just you're opinions needed here.

We all here have bpd, but what name do you think best describes it and why?

Borderline personality disorder.(BPD)
Emotionally unstable personality disorder.(EUPD)
Emotional intensity disorder(EID)

For me its got to be (EUPD) as when i was diagnosed i was told i have eupd both the impulsive and boarder types. it best discribes me and what i feel most others because its our emotions not who we are as BPD would sudjest as we all have different personalities.

[falsememory7]

Personally, I think that BPD describes me the most, because it's not just about my emotions, but everything that goes with it. All of the dissociation and paranoia and fear... but then again I don't really know all the little differences between the three

[i dont matter]

I think the term I prefer is FREAK. At least that is the label I think everyone has given to me.

[Crazy Hitch]

Great thread - thanks for putting this out there AlmostHappyAtTimes.

Personally, I don't do labels per say, this is just me, in general, so I'm impartial to which terminology is used as I believe we're all so different.

For simplicity sake, I probably relate best to "Borderline Personality Disorder" - for no other reason than it's the term I'm most familiar with.

Hope that helps.

[LittleEarthquakes]

I like the term BPD the best because I feel like 'borderline' describes how I am about many things in my life. So do the others but this term is simpler and I'm more familiar with it.

[Kimaya]

I think emotionally anything is too narrow. Im fine with border... Just all personality disorder names are soooo long. Doing searches is annoying. I think they should come up with shortened versions.

Good question.

[Crazy Hitch]

Good point Kimaya.

I just think the whole word personality "disorder" sucks.

Which is exactly why I toss the label. I couldn't care.

Personality Definition: the combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual's distinctive character.

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Character Definition: the aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person or thing

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Here goes my black and white thinking:

Borderline Personality Disorder =

Disorder Definition: abnormality of function of our individual features and traits

[It actually means on the border of neurosis and psychosis pfftttt]

*chucks label out window

[Kimaya]

I hate the personality disorder too... But it is actually a personality disorder.... Hmm. I think ego disorder would maybe be more accurate and kind.

I think its possible to have our personalities and still be OK, but our ego is a mess. This presents as a border because of our personality type... In another person it might present as something else depending their personality genes.

Think of a teenager and all the different types and you have the basis for many personality disorders. It is a disorder because there was a failure cognitively, perhaps, to develop an adult ego.

Anyway... I really hope they don't change the name. I fully own neurotic actually and I'm just fine with that. An underdeveloped adult aspect has advantages! Art, poetry, theater, stories.... The love of a child for the fantastical with the organisation and skill of an adult.

[AlmostHappyattimes]

Originally Posted by Kimaya

I hate the personality disorder too... But it is actually a personality disorder.... Hmm. I think ego disorder would maybe be more accurate and kind.

I think its possible to have our personalities and still be OK, but our ego is a mess. This presents as a border because of our personality type... In another person it might present as something else depending their personality genes.

Think of a teenager and all the different types and you have the basis for many personality disorders. It is a disorder because there was a failure cognitively, perhaps, to develop an adult ego.

Anyway... I really hope they don't change the name. I fully own neurotic actually and I'm just fine with that. An underdeveloped adult aspect has advantages! Art, poetry, theater, stories.... The love of a child for the fantastical with the organisation and skill of an adult.

Its not exactly a personality disorder but i agree, however some studies have shown we could be born with it as our brain develops differently

[s4ndm4n2006]

I don't prefer any acronym to call what it is I suffer with. If I describe what I'm going through and what affects me and someone understands it, It matters very little what they call it.

[Crazy Hitch]

Originally Posted by s4ndm4n2006

I don't prefer any acronym to call what it is I suffer with. If I describe what I'm going through and what affects me and someone understands it, It matters very little what they call it.

Yeah agree I still reckon it's just a "term" so people can "understand" us (no, it doesn't imply they do because we're all so different but anyway at least they try)

[Kimaya]

Originally Posted by AlmostHappyattimes

Its not exactly a personality disorder but i agree, however some studies have shown we could be born with it as our brain develops differently

I definitely agree there is a strong genetic component, I'm waiting for more research to see if there is strong evidence of the heritability of development going wrong. I think the answer is yes. I'd also love to see if the other PDs present this developmental glitchiness too.

For some reason borders hang onto early childhood communication methods. I'd be interested in any research you have read. I've seen the teenage BPD brain development study but nothing else. Fascinating.

[AlmostHappyattimes]

Originally Posted by Kimaya

I definitely agree there is a strong genetic component, I'm waiting for more research to see if there is strong evidence of the heritability of development going wrong. I think the answer is yes. I'd also love to see if the other PDs present this developmental glitchiness too.

For some reason borders hang onto early childhood communication methods. I'd be interested in any research you have read. I've seen the teenage BPD brain development study but nothing else. Fascinating.

If you google stuff, it comes up, here in the UK my dr wanted me to get a brain scan, but other dr's disagreed to it, but he seamed adamant that i got one to see if my brain is any different

NIMH » Emotion-Regulating Circuit Weakened in Borderline Personality Disorder

[grixkid]

I'll take whatever label they want to throw at me. The important part for me is that I exhibit the signs and symptoms of -whatever- and I am trying to get better, with help of Big Pharma, some good docs, and you guys.

[HD7970GHZ]

For the sake of answering your really awesome question - I would say I like Borderline Personality Disorder the best.

Reason being is - we have a strong associated stigma that often scares therapists and mental health professionals away. Is that really a bad thing? Doesn't this mean that we will be assigned people who take a special interest in our disorder and in treating us specifically? Perhaps we attract more seasoned professionals too. I know that in university - the professor made fun of those with Borderline and I didn't speak up in class because it was very insightful to hear what he had to say. After the class I approached him and told him I had Borderline and from that point forward - he was very kind to me in class. There's a certain mystique attached to our label and for what it's worth - I don't think it is entirely a bad thing.

Just a thought.

Also - I think about the other illness names just sound funny. I know that emotional dysregulation is the hallmark of BPD but lets be honest - there is much more to it. Borderline seems to point out the severity of the disorder and is pops off the page much more. It's as if the words Borderline Personality Disorder come with a large yellow triangle and a massive exclamation mark - and to be quite honest - I don't mind that!

HD

[Lonlin3zz]

I'm an emotional freak.

But again, normal people usually don't give a **** about feelings.

[lavendersage]

I am not a fan of "borderline". For me, it just doesn't say much.

I prefer Emotional Disregulation (Dysregulation?) Disorder. It doesn't cover all of it - but I personally don't think the word "borderline" does either.

[YMIHere]

Originally Posted by Hooligan

Great thread - thanks for putting this out there AlmostHappyAtTimes.

Personally, I don't do labels per say, this is just me, in general, so I'm impartial to which terminology is used as I believe we're all so different.

For simplicity sake, I probably relate best to "Borderline Personality Disorder" - for no other reason than it's the term I'm most familiar with.

Hope that helps.

I find this interesting because I am VERY big on labels.

I consider myself an information junkie. When I learn about something new, I like to learn a LOT about it. Usually, it's about proving something wrong, lol.

I consider myself intelligent so when I see something online that defies all logic and reason I call bullsh!t and I do research. Then I can speak on the subject with some form of actual knowledge instead of what people tell me (think religion and politics).

But for this reason, I do like to be able to NAME stuff. Yes we're all different. I accept after having read enough about it, the fact that I have ADHD and Bipolar. However I am also very aware that my experience and the next person's experience will vary greatly.

One of my traits that if I'm recalling correctly is NOT tied to one of my actual diagnoses is my "all or nothing" thinking. Everything is very black and white. I think this is another reason I cling to labels.

My research into my perfectionism (one of the issues I truly believe causes the most of my misery), would indicate another personality disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder. Not to be confused with OCD. I saw that's not listed here in the personality disorders, but I never did check to see if there's a subforum in OCD. So the perfectionism, black and white, a NEED to be able to identify and understand - I'm BIG on labels. I almost envy the people who can SAY they're not big on labels b/c that seems more NORMAL to me.

[lavendersage]

Originally Posted by YMIHere

I find this interesting because I am VERY big on labels.

I consider myself an information junkie. When I learn about something new, I like to learn a LOT about it. Usually, it's about proving something wrong, lol.

I consider myself intelligent so when I see something online that defies all logic and reason I call bullsh!t and I do research. Then I can speak on the subject with some form of actual knowledge instead of what people tell me (think religion and politics).

But for this reason, I do like to be able to NAME stuff. Yes we're all different. I accept after having read enough about it, the fact that I have ADHD and Bipolar. However I am also very aware that my experience and the next person's experience will vary greatly.

One of my traits that if I'm recalling correctly is NOT tied to one of my actual diagnoses is my "all or nothing" thinking. Everything is very black and white. I think this is another reason I cling to labels.

My research into my perfectionism (one of the issues I truly believe causes the most of my misery), would indicate another personality disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder. Not to be confused with OCD. I saw that's not listed here in the personality disorders, but I never did check to see if there's a subforum in OCD. So the perfectionism, black and white, a NEED to be able to identify and understand - I'm BIG on labels. I almost envy the people who can SAY they're not big on labels b/c that seems more NORMAL to me.

I'm a HUGE information junkie, too and will research the HELL out of eveything. I also have a deep-seated NEED to identify and understand. I've been diagnosed with the perfectionism type of OCD.

You say OCD is not to be confused with Obsessive Complulsive Personaliry Disorder...I thought they were one and the same? Can you please explain as I'm now very curious!

Lastly, I also think my perfectionism is not doing me any favors.

[YMIHere]

Originally Posted by lavendersage

I'm a HUGE information junkie, too and will research the HELL out of eveything. I also have a deep-seated NEED to identify and understand. I've been diagnosed with the perfectionism type of OCD.

You say OCD is not to be confused with Obsessive Complulsive Personaliry Disorder...I thought they were one and the same? Can you please explain as I'm now very curious!

Lastly, I also think my perfectionism is not doing me any favors.

OCD is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. You ever watch the show "Monk?" He was OCD at it's extreme. I don't suffer with it, but I have a friend who does and she's the one who told me about the show because she found it amusing.

I remember my friend telling me about how when she was a child it would take her forever to go to bed because if she didn't get her foot on the step JUST RIGHT, she'd have to start all over again. She was in therapy and she told me it was an achievement to mix sheets and towels in the laundry? Or maybe it was towels and clothes? Anyway she was folding towels and she told me it was her homework to NOT refold them. Fold them and let them be good enough. These are the people who have to check that the door is locked THREE times. That sort of thing.

My Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder is this: If I can't do something perfectly, I won't do it at all. When I try to lose weight, if I'm not dieting and going to the gym then I'm eating pizza and McDonalds every day. It's one or the other extreme. A friend of mine said she doesn't know how I can call myself a perfectionist b/c she's seen the shambles that is my house. Housekeeping is a nightmare for me. I told her that often, if I know I'm not going to be able to do ALL of it, I won't do ANY of it. When I was in college, I made Dean's and Presidents lists b/c if I couldn't get an A, I dropped it. Didn't want it at all. There's a bit about it on here: Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder Symptoms | Psych Central

No diagnosis for this but I feel certain I qualify under the following:

Shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met)

Is overconscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification)

Is unable to discard worn-out or worthless objects even when they have no sentimental value

Is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit to exactly his or her way of doing things

Shows significant rigidity and stubbornness

[lavendersage]

Originally Posted by YMIHere

OCD is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. You ever watch the show "Monk?" He was OCD at it's extreme. I don't suffer with it, but I have a friend who does and she's the one who told me about the show because she found it amusing.

I remember my friend telling me about how when she was a child it would take her forever to go to bed because if she didn't get her foot on the step JUST RIGHT, she'd have to start all over again. She was in therapy and she told me it was an achievement to mix sheets and towels in the laundry? Or maybe it was towels and clothes? Anyway she was folding towels and she told me it was her homework to NOT refold them. Fold them and let them be good enough. These are the people who have to check that the door is locked THREE times. That sort of thing.

My Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder is this: If I can't do something perfectly, I won't do it at all. When I try to lose weight, if I'm not dieting and going to the gym then I'm eating pizza and McDonalds every day. It's one or the other extreme. A friend of mine said she doesn't know how I can call myself a perfectionist b/c she's seen the shambles that is my house. Housekeeping is a nightmare for me. I told her that often, if I know I'm not going to be able to do ALL of it, I won't do ANY of it. When I was in college, I made Dean's and Presidents lists b/c if I couldn't get an A, I dropped it. Didn't want it at all. There's a bit about it on here: Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder Symptoms | Psych Central

No diagnosis for this but I feel certain I qualify under the following:

Shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met)

Is overconscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification)

Is unable to discard worn-out or worthless objects even when they have no sentimental value

Is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit to exactly his or her way of doing things

Shows significant rigidity and stubbornness

Thanks, YMIHere. I did a bit more reading about it and brought it up to my T yesterday. She evaluated/assessed (whatev's) me and concluded that I don't have it to the extent of it being a "disorder"; it's more a "style" that I have adopted of a way of doing things.

I know I'm stubborn as a mule, though (my entire family is - there's no escaping that DNA) and I hate to delegate tasks. I am a perfectionist at tasks both at work and at home but I DO complete them. I have been known on more than one or two occasions to think I've cornered the market on "righteous indignation" but, as I grow older and realize how much of a mess that I am, I've way toned down the soap-boxing (glass houses and all that).

I'm not a hoarder nor am I miserly (another one of the diagnostic criteria). Miserliness would have come in handy as I am now neck-deep in debt.

I like to copy recipes off the internet in to a running Word document (keeps getting bigger as I add more recipes to it). Now, I HATE to cook so WTF? but that's a topic for another time... Anyway, when I copy and paste them, the font differs from recipe to recipe and the formatting is all screwy and that gives me the absolute nervous fidgets so I have to make everything uniform. I've probably lost days of my life off of doing this stupid kind of shite. But, what can I tell you? It drives me bat$hit if I don't do it.

[YMIHere]

Originally Posted by lavendersage

Thanks, YMIHere. I did a bit more reading about it and brought it up to my T yesterday. She evaluated/assessed (whatev's) me and concluded that I don't have it to the extent of it being a "disorder"; it's more a "style" that I have adopted of a way of doing things.

I know I'm stubborn as a mule, though (my entire family is - there's no escaping that DNA) and I hate to delegate tasks. I am a perfectionist at tasks both at work and at home but I DO complete them. I have been known on more than one or two occasions to think I've cornered the market on "righteous indignation" but, as I grow older and realize how much of a mess that I am, I've way toned down the soap-boxing (glass houses and all that).

I'm not a hoarder nor am I miserly (another one of the diagnostic criteria). Miserliness would have come in handy as I am now neck-deep in debt.

I like to copy recipes off the internet in to a running Word document (keeps getting bigger as I add more recipes to it). Now, I HATE to cook so WTF? but that's a topic for another time... Anyway, when I copy and paste them, the font differs from recipe to recipe and the formatting is all screwy and that gives me the absolute nervous fidgets so I have to make everything uniform. I've probably lost days of my life off of doing this stupid kind of shite. But, what can I tell you? It drives me bat$hit if I don't do it.

I know that feeling.

Honestly, a doctor is probably going to classify me as a sociopath or something I don't see coming. It's funny because I heard that some of the craziest people are the people WORKING in psychology.

I can't help but think that something has to give. That I really need more help and that will pave the way to fixing a lot of what is broken in my life. I'm pretty sure it's all related though it's hard for my ADHD brain to pick out the biggest culprit. But you can see that the symptoms cross over between my
ADHD and Bipolar. I suspect that I'm going to be diagnosed BPD or something which also have overlapping symptoms.

Just hoping I can put my life in order b/c I feel like I'm in chaos all the time.