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Old Feb 17, 2017, 08:54 PM
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I can feel myself crashing down into an even deeper depression. I'm not at bottom but I am descending right now. Is there anything I can do to stop this?

I don't want to go back there. I can't afford to and the pain involved is certainly worth avoiding if possible.
Any suggestions? Please.
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Old Feb 17, 2017, 09:34 PM
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Have you tried DBT? It can help so things can not get so bad and give you better ways to cope.
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Old Feb 17, 2017, 09:58 PM
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Hello MDDBPDPTSD,

I have been where you are now so many times I cannot count and I honestly don't know the answer to your question. I wish I had an answer! Truth is, you can try all the skills in the world and still end up rock bottom...

Sometimes the storm is inevitable. When things flip over on me it happens so very fast and sometimes there is really nothing I can do to prevent it.

Resisting a storm is very hard and almost always a losing battle. All that needless frustration and anger when one can simple accept the storm for what it is and stop resisting. It is FAR more effective to prepare for the storm so that when it hits, you will have a solid foundation. The old therapeutic mantra, "Ride the Wave," certainly comes in handy when you feel the storm coming. Good news is you know yourself better than anyone and you have already made it through the storm. You already know you can do it again.

Suffering is a part of the human condition. Yes, we may have more intense and deeper struggles than other humans without our afflictions, (I'm assuming you have MDD, BPD and PTSD because of your name) but we need to remember that it is OKAY to be sad and depressed, to be hurt and to fall... Life operates in cycles whether we want it to or not. Humans go through phases of progression and regression. I don't think there's much we can do to stop it.

Sometimes the best mode of action is to try and accept the storm rather than to resist it; that way we save ourselves the secondary emotions that follow in failed attempts to stop it from happening... Better to build up our resiliency in ways that we know will work so that when the storm comes we will ride the wave... Allow it to happen and let it pass. "This too shall pass." It will not last forever.

Exercise, eat well, socialize, go to groups, review skills, journal, do what you love!

I hope this helps plant seeds in your head. Ultimately what works for me might not work for you - but I think because we are all human, we all think alike and something is bound to stick.

One therapist told me that she struggled particularly at night. I also struggle at night. She helped me to accept it rather than get angry and frustrated by it. We sometimes give power to a storm when we don't need to. Sometimes it is just that time of day... "The witching hour." Seems to hit me whenever it gets dark outside and I am all alone... I grab my teddies and I wrap up in soft things. I need to show myself love and compassion to build resiliency for the daily storm.... I allow myself to cry... I get a warm drink.

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Old Feb 18, 2017, 12:28 AM
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Thank you for your thought out and wise reply. I have had DBT but I was in my emotional mind and not able to think straight when you wrote this. It is difficult to engage the cognitive mind when emotional mind is in control.
I did use some DBT skills of distraction and selfsoothing to get to this point. Then I read the responses here and realized I need to pull more from DBT and I do need to stop fighting the storm bc I just succeed in adding to its destructive power when I fight it. I'm going to acknowledge the storm and instead of fighting it, I am going to make a plan to survive it and prepare for the reality of what is.
Radical acceptance is knowing it is what it is. Acceptance doesn't mean I approve of the storm. I just have to accept that I am NOT the cause of this storm. And it may blow àll around me but it is not my fault and I don't need to take responsibility for others decisions that caused the storm.
I'm also very sad for others who are closer to land fall of this storm. I'm angry about this storm bc it did not need to happen but some folks did bad things and created the storm. I can not make it go away. Those at land fall have more to endure than I in this storm. At least so far. Depends on which direction the winds blow. I'm going to be okay. Thank you all for the concern and advice.
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Old Feb 18, 2017, 12:31 AM
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I have had DBT thanks. I have trouble getting to wise mind when emotional mind has control. Thank you for the suggestion.
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Hi MDDBPDPTSD,

You said it well... Radical Acceptance is a beautiful skill.

May I ask what it is that other people did to create the storm in your life? Perhaps there is something you CAN do to minimize the impact... Is it something that you are willing to share? If not that is okay.

I feel like I may have invalidated your feelings somehow and I want to apologize if I did. It is SO hard to be self-aware whenever a storm hits and it is so much easier to allow our emotions to dictate and control our behavior... And to be fair: sometimes that is absolutely necessary for our survival... If we recognize our human fallibility and our primal need to control things whenever we feel uncomfortable - we can resist the temptation to control and instead prevent potentially damaging scenarios from unfolding.

Sounds like whatever caused the storm is out of your control, in which case, you really are better off using your skills to prepare for the storm...

Be selfish! Build up your resiliency and think about self-preservation.

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