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Old May 13, 2017, 09:15 AM
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I was offered schema therapy, which I have now started.
I really like my T and I feel this therapy makes a lot of sense, but it is a program of only 30 times (around 7 months). If you still feel bad after that time it's not their problem. This is what they offer.

I have quite a lot of problems and I am in a bad state atm, unemployed and with many hospital admissions. My problems with BPD started with anorexia and self harm when I was 17 and I am now 33 and was first now given this BPD diagnosis. I am just taking in I have BPD and they expect me to get well in 30 sessions

I feel 30 times is very short, so short that I don't even want to open up to my therapist because it will end soon.

I don't know if I should quit before it really starts, I am so afraid of losing this therapy before I feel better. It is free so I should probably take it, but it feels like this could become yet another loss, and I can't deal with it.

I feel stressed about getting well in 30 times. What if I can't make it. I have already been there 4 times and I am not nearly feeling better, in fact I feel worse because I really need it but it will end in 26 hours :-(
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Old May 13, 2017, 03:59 PM
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I was offered schema therapy, which I have now started.
I really like my T and I feel this therapy makes a lot of sense, but it is a program of only 30 times (around 7 months). If you still feel bad after that time it's not their problem. This is what they offer.

I have quite a lot of problems and I am in a bad state atm, unemployed and with many hospital admissions. My problems with BPD started with anorexia and self harm when I was 17 and I am now 33 and was first now given this BPD diagnosis. I am just taking in I have BPD and they expect me to get well in 30 sessions
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I feel 30 times is very short, so short that I don't even want to open up to my therapist because it will end soon.

I don't know if I should quit before it really starts, I am so afraid of losing this therapy before I feel better. It is free so I should probably take it, but it feels like this could become yet another loss, and I can't deal with it.

I feel stressed about getting well in 30 times. What if I can't make it. I have already been there 4 times and I am not nearly feeling better, in fact I feel worse because I really need it but it will end in 26 hours :-(
to say I relate is an understatement! I have struggled with anxiety,depression and bpd for 35 years,and too am in a bad place I have been offered a twenty session program! what a joke,and I also have social phobia and its group therapy ! everything you read says Long term !!!!!! x
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Old May 13, 2017, 04:23 PM
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I don't know anything about schema therapy. I say do the best you can for the next 26 sessions and get what you can out of it. Maybe start to prepare yourself for finding another T when these sessions end might be a good idea. I wouldn't worry much about not feeling even a little better in 4 sessions...that's pretty normal I think. I had multiple hospitalizations over a 3 year period and was in therapy the whole time, initially dx'd bipolar the first few months then changed to BPD with a new pdoc.
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Old May 13, 2017, 04:40 PM
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This is my take on any therapy: if you don't go in with an open mind it cannot work.

That means you have to be willing to allow for it to have bumps along the way and still keep a positive outlook on it.

You already have anxiety about this therapy. Is it feasible to expect you will be able to relax and say "ok, it isn't going to kill me if this doesn't work but it could really help me if it does, so hey - why not try?" ?

If you truly think you can do that, I say give it a try. If not, then, by all means, quit and find a therapy (and therapist) you feel comfortable with.
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Old May 14, 2017, 05:10 AM
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I think you should go for it, see what happens.

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Old May 14, 2017, 08:31 AM
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I was offered schema therapy, which I have now started.
I really like my T and I feel this therapy makes a lot of sense, but it is a program of only 30 times (around 7 months). If you still feel bad after that time it's not their problem. This is what they offer.

I have quite a lot of problems and I am in a bad state atm, unemployed and with many hospital admissions. My problems with BPD started with anorexia and self harm when I was 17 and I am now 33 and was first now given this BPD diagnosis. I am just taking in I have BPD and they expect me to get well in 30 sessions

I feel 30 times is very short, so short that I don't even want to open up to my therapist because it will end soon.

I don't know if I should quit before it really starts, I am so afraid of losing this therapy before I feel better. It is free so I should probably take it, but it feels like this could become yet another loss, and I can't deal with it.

I feel stressed about getting well in 30 times. What if I can't make it. I have already been there 4 times and I am not nearly feeling better, in fact I feel worse because I really need it but it will end in 26 hours :-(
"I feel 30 times is very short, so short that I don't even want to open up to my therapist because it will end soon." I'll feel the same as well, I would interpret it as they are just throwing me a 30-session package and just say good-bye when time's up, like there's ingenuity behind it.

It is free, and I believe any time investment in it will only allow you to know the answer compared to speculations.

May I ask, if you have been there and completed the full 30-session or you left half-way before?
I think it's an important thing for me to understand more from you about this package.
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Old May 14, 2017, 08:59 AM
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to say I relate is an understatement! I have struggled with anxiety,depression and bpd for 35 years,and too am in a bad place I have been offered a twenty session program! what a joke,and I also have social phobia and its group therapy ! everything you read says Long term !!!!!! x
I totally understand. In many cases these programs are this short solely for economical reasons...people should be able to leave therapy when they are feeling substantially better.

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Old May 14, 2017, 09:02 AM
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"I feel 30 times is very short, so short that I don't even want to open up to my therapist because it will end soon." I'll feel the same as well, I would interpret it as they are just throwing me a 30-session package and just say good-bye when time's up, like there's ingenuity behind it.

It is free, and I believe any time investment in it will only allow you to know the answer compared to speculations.

May I ask, if you have been there and completed the full 30-session or you left half-way before?
I think it's an important thing for me to understand more from you about this package.
I have just started and been there 4 times. I guess I will have to try it til the end, it is just the idea of having to leave therapy before I am ready that stresses me enormously.
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:04 AM
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This is my take on any therapy: if you don't go in with an open mind it cannot work.

That means you have to be willing to allow for it to have bumps along the way and still keep a positive outlook on it.

You already have anxiety about this therapy. Is it feasible to expect you will be able to relax and say "ok, it isn't going to kill me if this doesn't work but it could really help me if it does, so hey - why not try?" ?

If you truly think you can do that, I say give it a try. If not, then, by all means, quit and find a therapy (and therapist) you feel comfortable with.
Thanks for your reply. It is a hard decision. In order to be open minded about it and not feel this anxious I would have to detach from it...like it doesn't matter so much. In many ways this limited session system triggers some of my core issues with abandonment

I will talk with my T about it. I am thankful I can go the program, I just don't want to feel worse when it ends
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Old May 14, 2017, 12:28 PM
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Thanks for your reply. It is a hard decision. In order to be open minded about it and not feel this anxious I would have to detach from it...like it doesn't matter so much. In many ways this limited session system triggers some of my core issues with abandonment

I will talk with my T about it. I am thankful I can go the program, I just don't want to feel worse when it ends
Good luck and all the best in whatever you decide ❤
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Old May 14, 2017, 01:39 PM
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I think I know what you mean, it might be also that you don't want it to end (don't feel right now able to imagine yourself with this ending), so that gives you extra anxiety and the constant focus on the fact that it will end.
I don't have any advice on this, apart from trying to accept it and maybe also discuss it with T. Also, as said above, maybe look for another T for after this, just as a safety backup plan to calm you down a bit. In the same time I hate endings too, so I can relate.
Schema therapy sounds good though, I think it's worth to stay in it.

I'm in therapy and it's not the best kind for BPD, though I think I would be lost without it. Also I don't know what will happen after the summer, in about 3-4 months I might not even be able to stay in this city anymore. So in a way I'm in a slightly similar situation.
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Old May 15, 2017, 09:50 AM
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I think I know what you mean, it might be also that you don't want it to end (don't feel right now able to imagine yourself with this ending), so that gives you extra anxiety and the constant focus on the fact that it will end.
I don't have any advice on this, apart from trying to accept it and maybe also discuss it with T. Also, as said above, maybe look for another T for after this, just as a safety backup plan to calm you down a bit. In the same time I hate endings too, so I can relate.
Schema therapy sounds good though, I think it's worth to stay in it.

I'm in therapy and it's not the best kind for BPD, though I think I would be lost without it. Also I don't know what will happen after the summer, in about 3-4 months I might not even be able to stay in this city anymore. So in a way I'm in a slightly similar situation.
I think it is a good idea to already now have a plan for when this therapy ends. I would like to continue with the same T but it would be too expensive.

What type of therapy are you in?
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:23 PM
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I think it is a good idea to already now have a plan for when this therapy ends. I would like to continue with the same T but it would be too expensive.

What type of therapy are you in?
Some sort of Gestalt therapy.
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to say I relate is an understatement! I have struggled with anxiety,depression and bpd for 35 years,and too am in a bad place I have been offered a twenty session program! what a joke,and I also have social phobia and its group therapy ! everything you read says Long term !!!!!! x
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