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Old Oct 12, 2016, 07:39 PM
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OMG 6hrs. of groups and therapy? That sounds brutal. The iop....3-4 hrs. of groups and therapy. I have to be honest with you this sounds horrible. Did you do these programs?
Haha, yeah. The trauma one was good, but the regular ones were weird/ exhausting/uncomfortable...

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Old Oct 12, 2016, 11:03 PM
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Hmm. Good question. Is there some reason you don't want to tell her how bad you are feeling? Without necessarily giving details, you could probably tell her that you feel you need other options because these don't seem to be getting you what you need.
I dunno. I'm not really good at confrontation, and this would feel like it, lol.
I'm afraid if I start talking about it will all want to come out then we will run out of time , and it will leave me to deal with the aftermath all over again, until the next monthly session or longer.
I don't like confrontation either, it takes a lot to get me mad, but once I'm there all hell could break lose. Menopausal woman all pissed off.....not a good thing
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Old Oct 12, 2016, 11:05 PM
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Haha, yeah. The trauma one was good, but the regular ones were weird/ exhausting/uncomfortable...

Thanks for the heads up then. I will ask if one is trauma focused, if it ever comes up.
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 01:51 AM
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I'm afraid if I start talking about it will all want to come out then we will run out of time , and it will leave me to deal with the aftermath all over again, until the next monthly session or longer.
I don't like confrontation either, it takes a lot to get me mad, but once I'm there all hell could break lose. Menopausal woman all pissed off.....not a good thing
You could just tell her that first part; that infrequent therapy isn't helping because you are left on your own to deal with anything that comes up...
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 03:18 AM
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You could just tell her that first part; that infrequent therapy isn't helping because you are left on your own to deal with anything that comes up...
First what are you doing up so late? Hmmmmm?????
Yes, this sounds like a good plan but when I get there I know what will happen....my brain will be say it! but my mouth says "I don't think so" That never has been a problem for me, just talking about my own personal stuff is hard to get the brain and mouth coordinated.
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 03:35 AM
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You could just tell her that first part; that infrequent therapy isn't helping because you are left on your own to deal with anything that comes up...
I'm sure the infrequent sessions are not a helpful form of therapy for any of the veterans. The frustration of just getting an appointment, my first appointment was 3 mos. after I called. Can they not see that this may be part of the cause of the 22 suicides a day with veterans? I really didn't know it was that bad with getting appointments until I started going there. Then when you get an appointment they ask are your meds working, are you suicidal or want to harm someone else, okay what do you want to talk about? Nothing? Okay, see the front desk for your next appointment. You can see how that cold impersonal contact with them would hinder having a therapeutic relationship, right?
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 06:15 AM
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First what are you doing up so late? Hmmmmm?????
Yes, this sounds like a good plan but when I get there I know what will happen....my brain will be say it! but my mouth says "I don't think so" That never has been a problem for me, just talking about my own personal stuff is hard to get the brain and mouth coordinated.
I hear ya. Sometimes I sit there yelling at myself to say something as I watch the minutes tick away... can you put it in writing and give it to her?

Look, insomnia can suck. Why were you up? :P
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 06:20 AM
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I'm sure the infrequent sessions are not a helpful form of therapy for any of the veterans. The frustration of just getting an appointment, my first appointment was 3 mos. after I called. Can they not see that this may be part of the cause of the 22 suicides a day with veterans? I really didn't know it was that bad with getting appointments until I started going there. Then when you get an appointment they ask are your meds working, are you suicidal or want to harm someone else, okay what do you want to talk about? Nothing? Okay, see the front desk for your next appointment. You can see how that cold impersonal contact with them would hinder having a therapeutic relationship, right?
Wow. Yeah... not like I would actually admit to wanting to harm myself in a situation like that... i dunno how they don't see this as a problem. Our maybe they do, but being a government beurocracy Hinders things? Sorry you are stuck with them
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 12:20 PM
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I hear ya. Sometimes I sit there yelling at myself to say something as I watch the minutes tick away... can you put it in writing and give it to her?

Look, insomnia can suck. Why were you up? :P
Actually I have started writing down some of my questions/thoughts that I post here and otherwise and have thought about taking that to her, but then again......she may want to talk about it and then I'm back to that situation of handling the aftermath of that discussion on my own. So I may take it and pick out what would be less damaging to discuss so we will have something to talk about, but at that pace ....is there really any need to go? Ya know?

Oh yes, insomnia does sucketh, big time. But it's pretty much a norm for me. It's like working third shift. For some reason, and I may know that answer, it's not as hard to sleep once the sun starts coming up. No, I'm not a vampire, just in case you were wondering
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 12:23 PM
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Wow. Yeah... not like I would actually admit to wanting to harm myself in a situation like that... i dunno how they don't see this as a problem. Our maybe they do, but being a government beurocracy Hinders things? Sorry you are stuck with them
Veterans have always taken a back seat to getting help and resources. But if it were not for the veterans, the ones that died and are still alive, we wouldn't be living in a state where had the freedoms we have now. But don't get me started on that
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Old Oct 14, 2016, 07:35 AM
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It's definitely easier to sleep once the sun starts to come up...

If you give her the list of stuff to talk about, make the first item be having to deal with the aftermath of session. Wrote it huge, so she can't gloss over it when reading
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It's definitely easier to sleep once the sun starts to come up...

If you give her the list of stuff to talk about, make the first item be having to deal with the aftermath of session. Wrote it huge, so she can't gloss over it when reading
Okay will do that. You say that like she may be interested and want to do something about it. I have my doubts, but I will try. I see her next Monday twice, once at the DBT training and then an appointment at 1 p.m Just remembered she gave me something to read. I better go find it.
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