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Old Feb 03, 2016, 09:22 AM
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Maybe they're listed alphabetically by "member name"...
Sorry, not even this. Seems to be a male orientated tradition instituted by The Church.

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Old Feb 03, 2016, 09:25 AM
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Not necessarily. In multiple 'occupancy' family graves, the headstone invariably lists the male member first. Well, it does in this Country.

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Well that wasn't what I meant lmao, but okay, how do you equally put everyone as the first name? You don't. You cant. That's nitpicking. Got nothing to do with equality.
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I really didn't want to reply to this thread but I swear there is a shadowy cabal that wants to keep people divided with such nonsense.

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I had to look up "cabal".

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IT, maybe what you are struggling with is the thought that you don't want to be influenced? I do this all of the time....try to sort out my own truths. Not stuff based on fact, of course, but based on the opinions of others...
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Please folks, let's keep on topic which doesn't happen to be about who is superior but how the thought of women being superior makes IT "feel".

How can we help him to work through how he "feels" about that thought without debating?
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Old Feb 03, 2016, 04:28 PM
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This is a ridiculous fallacy. Each sex has its strengths and weaknesses.

In the end, we balance out.

BUT . . .

. . . I, too, am sick to death of seeing men emasculated in the press. Reprehensible and childish.

Men should be men.
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Please folks, let's keep on topic which doesn't happen to be about who is superior but how the thought of women being superior makes IT "feel".

How can we help him to work through how he "feels" about that thought without debating?
I rather thought the thought of female superiority had been identified here as an unhelpful thought without a basis in fact so therefore discarding this erroneous notion would be advisable.
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Old Feb 04, 2016, 01:22 AM
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Men commit suicide four times as often as women, more men are homeless, more men are victims of violence, high school dropouts, college dropouts, more likely to get cancer. There is nowhere near enough awareness and recognition for any of these issues that men face.

I'm talking about the western world here, I'm aware that there is true inequality in some parts of the world where women aren't allowed to drive or vote, and so on. But I'm comparing women and men in the Western world, how they are portrayed and the attention their causes get. As far as I can see, men get very little.
But why should we give people a free pass to rebel and not participate because they don't like things the way they are? Women aren't superior to men, they are EQUALS and they both have their own strengths. Maybe they're not the same but they're just as significant, and have just as much to offer society. They are in no way lesser just because they have different ways of bringing value to the world. And I think that this "newness" is what men feel threatened by. Its not a matter of being better, its a matter of realizing, women aren't housecats, they're not domestic pets you keep captive.

Women do not harrass men en masse. We don't stalk and terrorize you guys on the internet. We do not give you death threats for making jokes on twitter. We tend to react benignly to it all when it happens to us. No men aren't all like that, but its HARD to draw a line where that all begins and ends. With who, where and why? Especially online.

I'm just saying. What's the point.
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Old Feb 04, 2016, 11:41 AM
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So you think one gender is superior to other. In what sense? I never heard such thing.

I certainly don't think I am superior to my fiancée! Heck why? We have same level of education similar jobs and similar pay and both previously divorced, I don't see how one of us is superior? Now I am certainly superior to SOME men but not because they are men!

Now talking about how it makes you feel. Could it be that your low self esteem makes you think you are inadequate to women? Could be just your perception as its not based on reality at all

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Old Feb 04, 2016, 12:20 PM
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Illegal Toilet,

The most sensible thing to do is ignore the stupidity. You know better. Women are not superior to men.

In our society the pendulum has swung the other way. It will swing back into equilibrium eventually. The universe waxes and wanes, the tides come in and go out.

Don't expose yourself to the stupidity.
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Old Feb 04, 2016, 01:28 PM
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Illegal Toilet,

The most sensible thing to do is ignore the stupidity. You know better. Women are not superior to men.

In our society the pendulum has swung the other way. It will swing back into equilibrium eventually. The universe waxes and wanes, the tides come in and go out.

Don't expose yourself to the stupidity.
I think he knows but in most cases for most things to get better or to "wax and wane" they have to be brought to light so that people can realize.
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Yes, although in today's society we have everyone's particular brand of truth rammed down our throats hourly.

I, personally, limit my exposure with a DVR and judicious selection of websites. I can't escape everything, but this method prevents most unpleasantness.

In this day and age it is very hard to escape the madness that pervades our environment.
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I read a lot but never read anywhere that women are superior. Where is this coming from? What type of readings?

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I read a lot but never read anywhere that women are superior. Where is this coming from? What type of readings?

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Pretty much everywhere. It's pretty ingrained into society and even pushed by men themselves to hate men and think they are lower than women.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...s-men-misandry

"misandry is everywhere, culturally acceptable, even normative, largely invisible, taught directly and indirectly by men and women, blind to reality, very damaging and dangerous to men and women in different ways and de-humanizing."
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Old Feb 04, 2016, 08:11 PM
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Are you basing it on just some articles you read or personal experience with people? I know a lot of people of all different ages and both genders. I have never heard or saw anything like this in real life. Do you see it among your friends or colleagues or family? We can't really based our knowledge of the world on only what we see on tv or Internet. There is more to life.

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Are you basing it on just some articles you read or personal experience with people? I know a lot of people of all different ages and both genders. I have never heard or saw anything like this in real life. Do you see it among your friends or colleagues or family? We can't really based our knowledge of the world on only what we see on tv or Internet. There is more to life.

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You can keep saying that you've never heard or experienced it; doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I could say I've never seen someone get abused in real life. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Likely just isn't realized because it's the norm which was a key point that was brought up. Yes I've experienced and see it quite often. It's not special to just a particular few. I would recommend stop trying to downplay it because it's not helpful for anyone.

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A better comparison would be this- if a man were to go into a thread where women were talking about feeling like they were made to feel under men and then having the man say it doesn't happen because he had never seen a man acting superior to a women and that it doesn't happen.

Even I as a man can feel that it's worse for a man to say it doesn't happen than in the case of a woman saying it doesn't happen.

It's built into society and everyone's mannerisms/ how they view things.
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What are the actual and potential consequences of the idea that women are superior in real life?
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Women are always elected president and men never are?
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Women are still under represented in many fields. I am not sure what the implications of saying that women are superior than men are.
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Women are always elected president and men never are?
If women became presidents, I think the world would be a safer place. If you look at our closest relatives in the evolutionary tree; the chimps and bonobos, the former is male-dominant, while the latter is female-dominant. Guess what? Chimps are much more violent than bonobos, and they are the only species that wage organized war against its own kind other than humans.

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If women became presidents, I think the world would be a safer place. If you look at our closest relatives in the evolutionary tree; the chimps and bonobos, the former is male-dominant, while the latter is female-dominant. Guess what? Chimps are much more violent than bonobos, and they are the only species that wage organized war against its own kind other than humans.
I completely disagree with this. Women are downright nasty. When one woman gets ticked off with another they are vicious.
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I completely disagree with this. Women are downright nasty. When one woman gets ticked off with another they are vicious.
Not as nasty as men, though. It is relative.
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Women are always elected president and men never are?

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Steiner I am just asking if you and op are basing your knowledge of this on what you read or you actually see it? Like do you think your gf is superior to you? Or your mother? Or coworkers? Etc

so far I only see people say that women are superior to men because they've read about it on the Internet or maybe saw tv show ( not sure), that's what I am saying. Do you see it at your work place for example? Where do you see outside of computer or tv screen?

Well TRIGGER rape isn't fair example as there is factual evidence and facts of that happened police investigation DNA testing a and so one yet is there one about superiority of women, outside of just articles on the Internet?

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Not as nasty as men, though. It is relative.
Your opinion. Not mine.
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Old Feb 05, 2016, 05:07 PM
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Well on the other hand if you feel women are superior to you then I don't see how we change that belief by just saying they aren't. Some people think that others are above them. I'd recommend therapy to build ones self esteem

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