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Old Aug 18, 2017, 01:33 AM
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Seriously...

What is the reason anyone should care about anyone or anything?

Not saying I don't, because I do....but sometimes I wish I could flip a switch and just shut it all off.

Why do we care? Why care if the sun rises or sets? If a bay is born or someone dies? If a war starts here or somewhere else or not at all? Who the president is or is not? What our neighbors do or say? The day we have? How happy or sad our friends are...indeed why have emotions at all, if we didn't care emotions would be a moot point and therefore cease to cause all these problems, right?

So why do I care so much about almost everyone and everything?
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Because you are not a robot. You are a sensitive, kind and caring person. The drawback of being sensitive is that we tend to take on too much. Take care of you.
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I still think the world would be simpler without emotions though. No confusion as to why someone is mad or sad about something you did or did not do ... and never even realized it. No angry confrontations leading to fights. No mental breakdowns. No psych disorders. Of course that does away with happiness, laughter, love, and excitement too... but even those can be so confusing they cause problems. One person can be happy about the same thing another is extremely angry about. One person can be laughing about the same thing another is extremely depressed over. One can be in love and be confused if it is truly love or not and if the other loves them back. Someone can be excited about the same thing another fears. Emotions are confusing, fickle, and cause a lot of problems.
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You make a good point. I think, though, that emotions are an important part of our humanity. I'm with you though, I could do with more positive emotions. You seem depressed. Are you getting any help? Sending big hugs.
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Can't get any help atm.
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I have been where you wish to be, not caring. But there you're just in a void, and you'd think a void cannot harm you. It can. It can even feel really scary. And everything feels pointless.

I have also been where every little detail matters.

It would be nice to be inbetween but being on the right level and not in an extreme seems very hard!
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I can identify with your " feelings " about feelings! I am a very sensitive individual who "feels" things too much. It has caused me much distress over the years. I wished many times that I could just be like so many others who seem to have no feelings at all. But on the other hand , I can " feel" a certain way about things that seem to border on the "spiritual ". It's kind of hard to explain .
If people didn't have feelings there wouldn't be any people around. Why care ?
Because you were born a human , not a rock. I think the only way for people like us to survive is to learn how to change or make new neuropathways in our brains that will produce an even keeled emotional response to life. IT CAN BE DONE ! We need to start using the " left side" of our brain more. The pre-frontal cortex. That's where we learn how to make rational instead of emotional decisions. It's all a balancing act. Please hang in there ! Don't give up.
Sometimes it feels like we're in a dark tunnel without a flashlight. We need to get that flashlight !
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Old Aug 18, 2017, 08:26 AM
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I have been where you wish to be, not caring. But there you're just in a void, and you'd think a void cannot harm you. It can. It can even feel really scary. And everything feels pointless.

I have also been where every little detail matters.

It would be nice to be inbetween but being on the right level and not in an extreme seems very hard!
I was balanced as you describe for a long while. Hopefully​ I either get back there again, or just learn to not care at all (even about myself - which would take care of to that fear)
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Yeah, why should anyone care about me?

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Old Aug 18, 2017, 01:32 PM
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Yeah, why should anyone care about me?

Wonderful.
This was written well before I read your post and was not directed at you or anyone in particular.

I do believe I, just like you, am allowed to discuss thoughts and other problems that bother me on this forum. This was and is about me. Don't turn it around.
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Old Aug 18, 2017, 01:36 PM
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You are not the only one on this forum being overwhelmed in their life. We all react differently. This is mine. Yours is to go off on a raging cussing spree condemning everyone. I didn't take that personal though either. Just realize, we each need to sort it differently. There is no right or wrong.
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You ask why all these emotions...why am I like this and why is he like that...why is everything the way it is...Why did God create me and put me in the situation I am, I didn't ask to be here, to go through the things i go through. I realize that its all about the perspective of life and if you get to know the truth it shall set you free...

(John 15:18-21) “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me.
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I couldn't agree more.

I would give anything and pay any price to be reborn a psychopath because they are pros at being detached with their feelings and what not. Unfortunately, that is impossible since psychopathy is something that is genetic.

I dislike feelings and I find them incredibly confusing. Unfortunately, we have to live with them so I don't know what to tell you.
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Old Aug 19, 2017, 10:57 PM
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You ask why all these emotions...why am I like this and why is he like that...why is everything the way it is...Why did God create me and put me in the situation I am, I didn't ask to be here, to go through the things i go through. I realize that its all about the perspective of life and if you get to know the truth it shall set you free...

(John 15:18-21) “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me.
It's not always about what others do though either. Sometimes, emotions just arise for no reason at all...and confuse both me n anyone who happens to be around me. I believe fully on to the Lord, that is not really my question, but sometimes just as a child asks it's mother why she put frosting on the cake instead of just eating it.... I have questions I would like to ask as well. Things I don't understand, and I don't think God would find it horrible of me to do so as long as I come from a good place in my heart.

This biblical talk here is just between you n I since you brought up scripture to me.

I also am of the belief that before original sin, either we had no emotion, all emotions were similar, or we did not fully understand the significance of them, for many reasons. First, we were created in the image of God ... and, Adam walked with God, but God strove to keep our intellect lower than his own, which is why we were forbidden from eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge. This says to me, we must have had either an emotional iq equal or similar to God or been completely innocent and naieve and therefore of interest for God to spend time with "teaching". Second, once Adam and Eve bit the fruit of knowledge, they suddenly "learned" to be ashamed of their nakedness n covered themselves in the sight of God. So..this says to me, perhaps we weren't created originally with the intense emotions we have now, but our knowledge has caused us to develop these emotions - both good and bad, and that's why we don't always know what to do with them, because we were never designed to have them.

Anyway... Just my two cents on the biblical take.
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I couldn't agree more.

I would give anything and pay any price to be reborn a psychopath because they are pros at being detached with their feelings and what not. Unfortunately, that is impossible since psychopathy is something that is genetic.

I dislike feelings and I find them incredibly confusing. Unfortunately, we have to live with them so I don't know what to tell you.
Not sure I wanna be a psychopath, because I truly don't want to hurt others, but I just wish there were a way to just be free without running that risk. Ya know?
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Not sure I wanna be a psychopath, because I truly don't want to hurt others, but I just wish there were a way to just be free without running that risk. Ya know?
The thing is though is that not all psychopaths go around hurting others. A lot of people misunderstand psychopathy. Psychopaths are detached from most of their emotions; especially fear, anxiety, and empathy. Some do go around hurting others, but many high functioning ones simply don't care enough about other people to want to hurt them.

I do understand where you're coming from though. I only wish I had a solution to our issue.
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The thing is though is that not all psychopaths go around hurting others. A lot of people misunderstand psychopathy. Psychopaths are detached from most of their emotions; especially fear, anxiety, and empathy. Some do go around hurting others, but many high functioning ones simply don't care enough about other people to want to hurt them.

I do understand where you're coming from though. I only wish I had a solution to our issue.
I know not all do, but I also know there is a high probability of doing it... and I don't want to. The reason most psychopath who do hurt others do so is not for the pleasure of hurting them, but as a "means to an end". Psychopaths are all about getting what they want and some simply find hurting others gets them what they are wanting.
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look at human nature...the simple fact that you would isolate the "biblical talk" between me and you...why?. All the problems in the world would be solved if we didn't choose to believe lies over truth and if we as humans objectiely analyse ourselves and our behaviour. My take on the garden of Eden is that when the bible says God created man in his own image it mean that we are the same "emotional" beings as God, it's got nothing to do with intellect...we were created in his image being that we feel like God feels...we get sad, happy, depressed, we long for approval and to have relationships with other just like God but fall short because of our human flesh which is made from the "earth or dust"...the test God put before Adam and Eve was his creations ability to "try out" what God longs for the most from us human being which is trust and worship...the fruit never literally contained juices of knowledge of good and evil it was mans ability to test what relationships man would have with God or rather a test of his nature towards God..when Even picked and gave Adam that showed God mans true nature that its his default to choose to go his own way (pride which I think you displayed in isolating this topic) instead of trusting God, which led to the original sin and the bible says God cannot exist alongside sin so he withdrew his presence from them remember that it was a choice and when man listened to Satan's interpretation over God's that how all these other "bad emotions" we're created became we chose to listen to lies over the truth from God. why worry when walking down a dark alley when God says he will always protect you, why choose to listen to that negative voice instead of the truth...it's our human nature and that's why we can't save our self and need a saviour...my point is thing are never as bad as it seems when we on the other side...align yourself or just get knowledge of what the truth says and compare the facts it helps with anxiety and depression.

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(Jeremiah 17 verse 5-10) This is what the LORD says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh
and whose heart turns away from the LORD.
That person will be like a bush in the wastelands; they will not see prosperity when it comes.
They will dwell in the parched places of the desert,
in a salt land where no one lives.
“But blessed is the one who trusts in the LORD, whose confidence is in him.
They will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream.
It does not fear when heat comes;
its leaves are always green.
It has no worries in a year of drought
and never fails to bear fruit.”
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?
“I the LORD search the heart and examine the mind,
to reward each person according to their conduct,
according to what their deeds deserve.”
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look at human nature...the simple fact that you would isolate the "biblical talk" between me and you...why?. All the problems in the world would be solved if we didn't choose to believe lies over truth and if we as humans objectiely analyse ourselves and our behaviour. My take on the garden of Eden is that when the bible says God created man in his own image it mean that we are the same "emotional" beings as God, it's got nothing to do with intellect...we were created in his image being that we feel like God feels...we get sad, happy, depressed, we long for approval and to have relationships with other just like God but fall short because of our human flesh which is made from the "earth or dust"...the test God put before Adam and Eve was his creations ability to "try out" what God longs for the most from us human being which is trust and worship...the fruit never literally contained juices of knowledge of good and evil it was mans ability to test what relationships man would have with God or rather a test of his nature towards God..when Even picked and gave Adam that showed God mans true nature that its his default to choose to go his own way (pride which I think you displayed in isolating this topic) instead of trusting God, which led to the original sin and the bible says God cannot exist alongside sin so he withdrew his presence from them remember that it was a choice and when man listened to Satan's interpretation over God's that how all these other "bad emotions" we're created became we chose to listen to lies over the truth from God. why worry when walking down a dark alley when God says he will always protect you, why choose to listen to that negative voice instead of the truth...it's our human nature and that's why we can't save our self and need a saviour...my point is thing are never as bad as it seems when we on the other side...align yourself or just get knowledge of what the truth says and compare the facts it helps with anxiety and depression.
I choose to keep the biblical talk between us only as this forum is not meant for spiritual debate and no forum allows for direct debate amongst one belief in order to keep everyone from getting hurt. If you prefer, we can take this talk to pm. I simply am trying to prevent you and I from getting in trouble on this site. I am not being prideful as you suggest, I have had several in depth conversations concerning God, however, God also reminds us that while here on Earth we must also live in accordance with man's law unless it goes in direct defiance of God's law. In this case, man's law (rules of this site) say we are nothing​ to debate "religious subjects", I was allowing you leeway in the hopes you would not make this heated or attacking. It appears as if you will if I continue to speak on my particular beliefs to you. I believe you have an interesting view of things, and it would have been nice to talk further but I won't risk upsetting either you, myself, or others to do it here. If you want to pm me, we can discuss it further.
I was not and will not go on a personal attack with you based upon your views or anything else. I feel you have done so with me and I am refusing to respond to that. You can decide to pm or not, beyond that, this discussion is through. Take care.
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A lot of people take consolation in Philosophy. I enjoyed Alain De Botton's book The Consolations of Philosophy. It's not a cure-all, but it might offer some ideas about how Philosophy could help.

The Consolations of Philosophy - Alain de Botton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co..._of_Philosophy

I thought this article might be appropriate, as well: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...tential-crisis
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A lot of people take consolation in Philosophy. I enjoyed Alain De Botton's book The Consolations of Philosophy. It's not a cure-all, but it might offer some ideas about how Philosophy could help.

The Consolations of Philosophy - Alain de Botton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co..._of_Philosophy

I thought this article might be appropriate, as well: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...tential-crisis
Thank you.
The book sounds interesting but unfortunately I cannot buy it nor anything else at the moment.
The article sounds similar to things I try but unfortunately am unable to do around my house...which is how this thread came to be.
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I don't think you want to be emotionless, it actually sucks. I have no motivation to do anything and don't enjoy anything. I would give it up for all the emotional pain in the world. Feeling nothing is a nightmare. It's a dull lifeless experience, with no way of connecting or sharing in the experiences of others.
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I don't think you want to be emotionless, it actually sucks. I have no motivation to do anything and don't enjoy anything. I would give it up for all the emotional pain in the world. Feeling nothing is a nightmare. It's a dull lifeless experience, with no way of connecting or sharing in the experiences of others.
Like I said emotions are just really confusing and the confusion gets tiresome at times. I'm sorry for your pain though also..
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Thank you.
The book sounds interesting but unfortunately I cannot buy it nor anything else at the moment.
The article sounds similar to things I try but unfortunately am unable to do around my house...which is how this thread came to be.
If you like, you can listen to De Botton for free on Youtube.
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