never good enough

I always say the wrong words or do the wrong thing. If only for once I could say or do something right, maybe , just maybe............
But I always live in the shadow of myself, forgetting who I am, because it is never good enough. It will always be never good enough for this world of hurt and pain, for kindness had been forgotten.

Forgoten

Hi forgoten, I think that a lot of us here can empathize with you. From what I have seen you of you, you are a lovely kind person, and are *more worthwhile* than any arseholes who may treat you like crap! Excuse my language, it's been a tough day (or maybe I've been censored!)

Thinking of you,
Take care,
Fuzzy

kindness will never be forgotten in my life...it's one of the keys to being who I am....my Daddy taught me that (wonderful man) Youre right...theres ALOT of hurt and pain in thsi world...but....there's still alot of good if you keep looking

Hugs for you ((((never Forgotton))))...

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I'm trying to isolate the best I can so the hurt will stop coming. But I can't isolate completatly. Sure wish I could. I feel I don't belong in this world. I'm too different. Maybe if I isolate more and more, people will forget I exist.

Thank you for reading what I shouldn't even write.
Forgoten

What I get from your writing is you are in the grip of the monster depression. Most of the other folks on this board know this experience, too. You are not alone. There is plenty of good company here.

Do you have a therapist? They are good for helping out with this kind of bleak outlook.

You might also get meds to help lift you out of the rut. They do work quite well. It is best to get a psychiatrist to set this up, or a med doc with training or who has a good specialist to consult with.

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Hi and thank you to all

I am on medication. I think that there is no medication or therapy that can stop mean words to get throught my heart. But the day will come when I will be able to get away. Until then, I have to hold. Maybe in here I will be able too.

Take good care!

Forgoten

Hi (((forgotten)))

We've never met before - mainly because I haven't been here in awhile.

You mentioned mean words ... and implied that you couldn't say or do anything right ... hmmm ... it is a two way street sweetie, so it can't just be you.

Of course, I'm just stating my opinion, and it only has whatever weight you will place on it - so with that being said, here it is ...

Communication, regardless of it it is in speech or actions is a very important thing, and it takes at least 2. And you should know, that even though we don't know each other, I do know that you are just as important and as valuable as any other person. We all are, and as such, we deserve the attention and respect of those we communicate with.

I have two pieces of advice for you, and I fully understand that it is much easier for one like me to give it, than for another to follow it.

The 1st piece of advice is simply this - Remember YOU are as important as the next person ... This will never change. And ... the second is this ... Whenever anyone speaks to you, it is YOU, and not their words that give importantance to whatever they say. For example, if someone is talking to you and trying to be mean, simply limit your speech to that person - don't argue with them, don't attack them, and your actions will let this person know that they have failed. Just let their words go through one ear and out the other and go about your business.

There is no excuse for one to be rude and offensive. If they are this way - you don't need them in your life, because you are SPECIAL and you have much more important things to do.

Take care,
Sam

You are so right about mean words. no matter what you logically think, they hurt. the old sticks and stones saying just isn't true. You will be treated right by us. Hang on as tough as you can, but don't turn into a hardened soul. I don' think you will. One thing being mistreated does for you is let you learn compassion for others who suffer the same. I used to tell my kids this, and it is true: there are a LOT of jerks in the world, but there are also a lot of wonderful people. Don't let the jerks spoil it.

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Hang in there forgoten..........everyone here listens and cares, myself included. Talk as often as needed and about whatever is on your mind.

Mary Alice

Thank you all for your replies. I really do appreciate them. I didn't expect any, on any of my post. So this is a surprise for me. A good surprise!

I apologies for not going in the chatroom. I can't. I had a bad experience with the last one I went into and I still didn't get over it yet. I'm sure you are all special people and that it would be really nice talking to you all. I'm so sorry, I just can't. I hope you will understand. Thank you!

Forgoten

I understand, forgoten. The chatroom here is the first one I've ever been in, but I had a bad experience on another mental-health message board, where the moderators are um .... not very fair or kind. It took me a long time to get over it completely. Hang in there hun, the people here are really great

Take care,
*Hugs*
Fuzzy

Dear Sam,

It is true that we don't know each other and it is very nice of you for trying to help me.
I don't like arguement and I never attack. And if someone get angry, I just turn away. I'm not mean and I can't hurt people. If I do it's not because I want too. There is enough hurt in this world without me putting some more.
As you say I don't need them in my life so I'm giving up. Soon I will close my door and make sure I loose the key. And they will with time forget I ever existed.

Thank you and take care!

Forgoten

forgotten sweetie, please ... never ever give up ...

I didn't mean to impy you were mean - I was simply saying that when they are mean - place them onto ingore. Whatever problems life may bring us - it is still worth living sweetie.

Stay with us ... we need our friends.

Yours,
Sam

I know Sam you didn't say I was mean.
Thank you!

(((((((((((((((((((((Sam)))))))))))))))

Forgoten

I wanted to come back and remind you that you ARE good enough!! More than good enough!! It's the people that are unkind that are not good enough!

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<font color=blue>This above all: To thine own self be true. --Shakespeare</font color=blue>

Thank you all so much!

Please don't anyone worry too much about me. I will make it

Take all care of yourself and stay safe!
(((((((((((((((((((((((To all)))))))))))))))))))))) with love

Forgoten

Aren't the people great here Forgotten?
Heidu

Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending. ~ Carl Bard ~

Yes Heidu, you are all great and so special. I think the people with depression are more kind, caring and understanding then people without it. At least that is a good part about depression. This is a good place and I'm glad and grateful that I had find it and most of all that you want me to be part of it for a little while. Thank you!

(((((((((((((((((((((Heidu))))))))))))))))with love

Forgoten

I am a bit concerned that when you say "As you say I don't need them in my life so I'm giving up. Soon I will close my door and make sure I loose the key. And they will with time forget I ever existed."

What I get from this is that you have situational boundaries. That is a good thing. What concerns me is that you may not be making your boundaries clear to others and giving them a chance to respect them.

If you find your boundaries are invaded, it looks like you simply retreat. This does not help you cope (it feels bad) and it does not give others a fair chance with you. If you just leave, they may not have a clue why and are doomed to repeat their offenses against you unknowingly. It also takes a nice person, you, out of circulation. The world needs a lot more people like you.

Don't mistake being strong and assertive with attack, meanness, and hurting people. You can be assertive and very kind. Can you imagine that Mother Theresa was not strong and assertive?

Also, mean people pick on passive people. A strong person repels unkind people.

Anyway, that is my concern, that you may have problems with certain people and that perhaps you attract their attention by being too accomodating of them. It might be helpful to find ways to strengthen the real you that doesn't let mean people trample on you.

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Kvinneakt

You had read between the lines and you had just touched a part of me that

Now I'm crying and I can't think. I'm sorry I will get back to you on this.

Thank you
Forgoten

I have tried for so long and so hard, differents ways to deal with mean people or mean actions. I just can't anymore. I have also other things to deal with.
I'm tired and I lost hope. I have 2 choices left, retreat or die. I'm balancing both sides of both choices.

Thank you for listening!

Forgoten