"good fences make good neighbors" ????

yesterday afternoon, late, i was in the backyard putting together a metal table that i picked up on the street.

all at once, i heard a rifle being "loaded" and a shot went through my yard to the right of me. i stepped over to the right and my drunk neighbor was entertaining the neighbors (the nice ones) and both men were drunk. they had a pellet gun and the 10 year old was holding it and getting it ready to shoot again. the really drunk neighbor charged up to my fence and started yelling at me. i was speechless.

he wanted to know what "i wanted".....i calmly told him that a bullet had just gone through my backyard and then i noticed one of my cats cowering under a tree just outside the fence.

i said that i had just heard a shot and that the "bullet" went right past me. then i said i was concerned about the cats. he continued to scream at me and the other neighbor walked up. all at once the gun became downgraded to a "bb" gun. i've seen the gun up close and it is one of the "higher end" pellet guns......

i was just standing there with my mouth hanging open, listening to them and the closest neighbor started showing me that they were shooting at a beer can. a beer can that was hanging directly in front of the fence where i had been standing. there was a shrub that kept them from seeing me.

i started trying to get my cats to come into the yard so i could put them in the house. the one neighbor started saying that i had stolen his rake..........??????? i have a rake.

this is a man who passed out recently in his truck, crossed one highway, went up on a four lane high and crossed through the traffic on that highway, bounced down the other side, went through a wire fence and narrowly missed hitting a large bull.....he had come to when the truck landed off of the embankment of the larger highway.....he then proceeded to drive through the farmer's pasture and cut the fence and drove out and came to his house.

the "good" neighbor said that if the shooting was "concerning" me, they would quit and then he started explaining the distance of the projectile of a bb....it isn't a bb gun.......i walked off and got cat food and lured the cats in.

i went outside early, before going to work and the "good" neighbor has torn my brick fence down and they are digging holes for a "privacy" fence.

it is a very good lesson in what alcohol does to ordinarily
reasonable people. when i can afford it, i'll get more bamboo fencing and fasten it to my cyclone fence.

what would you do? i've really hurt over my brick fence. it was very pretty and the bricks were laid in a very intricate pattern. and i guess i no longer have a friendship with the "good" neighbor.....i don't want any trouble.

the dog thing has stressed me to the max. i just went over and fed butch and watered him. he's lost at least 15 lbs since i moved in here..........

(((((((((((((((((((((pat)))))))))))))))))))))))
i am sorry that you are having trouble with your neighbors.... we had some neighbors like that once.... horrible situation....

Maybe you could share this with him.

Mending Fences
Robert Frost

In the poem, he ponders why he and his neighbor should even have the stone fence between them -

He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.

He only says, ‘Good fences make good neighbors."
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:

‘Why do they make good neighbors?
Isn’t it where there are cows?
But here there are no cows.

Before I built a wall I’d ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.

Hi Pat,
Isn't it illegal to be shooting anything towards another persons house? For something like that I'd have to call the police. You and/or your pets could seriously be injured. I know you don't want to start trouble but shooting off anything with a gun towards somebody's house just isnt' right and it's very dangerous.
Especially if they're drunk.
Please call the police if they decide to have aiming practice in the direction of your home again.
Stay safe. (((((Pat))))

i believe that last night when the good neighbor was drunk, he ordered his children to tear my fence down really early.....he leaves around 5 a.m. and they got up and did what he told them to do...he does hand out harsh consequences when they don't do as he thinks they should.......

i don't want to have to put anything up. but, i don't want to be shot with a pellet gun either. and i sure don't want one of my cats shot. that would be something that would cause me to do things that wouldn't be pretty.......

petunia, he wouldn't understand the poem. he is a control freak and i wouldn't know how to approach him about it. it proves to me what alcohol does to otherwise reasonable "friends"......

i guess i'll let sleeping/shooting dogs lie until the gun comes out again. and then i'll call the police. it's against the law to discharge a bb or pellet gun inside the city limits....i hate stuff like this. i hate it!

gotta go....got client coming in ten minutes......thanks, guy........

i understand were you are comming from, my neighbour has a 17yr old son whos allowed to do what he likes he has a air rifle i quite often get things shot at (bird feeders and my pegs even my old fence) tshe also let him let of fireworks our houses are quite close togeather, last oct he let a rocket of down the side of the fence instead of into the air, we all were standing the other side of fence, but because i have allready got a lot of ill feeling for his mum i have just ignored all these things but the quicker we get out of here the better, sorry to rant, i hope you can resolve this better than we can

Pat, you can legally make him put your brick fence back. He can't have his children tear your property apart and if you let him start running over you now, he'll do it all the time you live there. Stand up for yourself and your rights!

Hugs,

Jan

1. i called the texas state troopers and told them that i know who did the damage on the highways and tore through the farmer's fence. that is confidential info and they will never use my name.....
2. i called the local police about the shooting.
3. i called the DA about my fence.

if you guys could see this neighborhood, big stately victorian houses, manicured lawns, etc. and this kind of ridiculous stuff is going on behind the houses and inside them.........just proves that everyone has a side that we may never see.

i am so tired of "taking" and "sucking it up" in my family that i am not going to take it from neighbors......it will all be taken care of..........

oh yes, when the neighbor, who owns the gun, was screaming at me yesterday, fayeroe tried to bite him.....she lunged up at him on the fence and i grabbed her and held her back. all a dog has to do is hear a "tone" change and they know that you're being threatened. i was very proud of her and gave her treats when we came back in. since we moved in, she has never warmed up to him.

ahh good ole Pat, I suspect it is even worse where you are. Having been where you are almost exactly I can tell you unless it's life or dea no good comes from trying to be reasonable and abide by the law. There are a few things like was the fence on the property boundary? If so then it means that in my state if both parties don't agree on the boundary line it's not legal. Here you can move your fence three feet into your property and file a statement with town or city clerk stating you have placed a fence three feet ont your property so you may maintain the three feet on other side. You may state what boundary indicators your are using. For us it turned into world war three and we walked away and let it go. The neighbors know what a skink we have for a neighbor. They too wrecked an expensive fence. The other piece of advice is to get rapid growing trees or bushes and plant them just inside your boundary. I would also check into the release of firearms within your town limits. Tha anonomous call from a scared ole lady gets the police moving to. Good luck.

he is building a privacy fence........so, i'll just plant some trees and vines and let it go at that. the pattern of the brick could never be duplicated. it was too intricate and old. what goes round, comes round. i'll just smile and walk on.

BUT the local police are going to start trailing the neighbor who drives drunk every day........ha ha ha........i worry abouot him because that street is used by kids on bikes and little old ladies walking their dogs......

i just want this to be serene and peaceful......but, no, a pellet has to fly by my head.........ah, well, peace will return..........xoxoxo pat

if people only knew what goes on behind closed doors.... sorry their messed up lives are spilling over onto yours. sheeesh.
sounds like you notified all the right people. in the meantime, what, flack jackets and helmets and goggles all around? sheesh, and in such a nice neighborhood, too........ sheesh

i was just thinking about being "invisible" from now on.....it is scary about what you don't know about the neighbors......and then you find out and it's too much information........

Hey Pat, good additude, anyone notice half my letters missing? It is loss of strenght in my writing hand, ie typing right keyboard hand. Sorry.

Having read your posts I thought, maybe your dog is mean to the neighbors or just really scares them.If I`m not mistaken wasn`t your dog attacked before?It is only my opinion but a very similar situation happened to a friend of mine& then she moved but it kept on happening& then we spoke & I realized that maybe she & not they had the problem.Sometimes when we end up alone, not speaking to family or friends or neighbors or all 3, we have to sit back & look at ourselves.Sometimes we can keep peace by just staying on our side of the fence & deal with what is going on over there. I truly hope it works out for you.

i don't believe that you understood my post when i started the thread. fayeroe has never, ever been aggressive with any of my neighbors until he was screaming at me. a good dog always knows if their family is being threatened. when he raised his hand up and pointed at me, in my face and i stepped back, she jumped at him. she had been standing between the fence and i.

this is a man who gets up and starts drinking around 7. by 10:30 a.m., he's glazed over. this is not a situation where i've bothered my neighbors.

thanks for the concern, but the situation isn't as you think it is.

i've never had a problem with a neighbor in my life..until i moved in and my backyard corners his yard........

Well, I know it might grind on you..but I bet if you sweeten up to the guy and tell him you really thought the brick was pretty...could you have it ... he might throw them into your yard

While I think informing the authorities was good... neighbors like that usually retaliate the next time they get drunk.

And cats are known for jumping fences

FEED THE DOG fat stuff... and play with it more!

Bill will help soon

he's using the brick in his front yard.

i lived with a drunk 13 years.........this one drives drunk every single day. when he kills someone, i'm gonna feel like ---- if i didn't say something.

my cats climb the fences all the time. still on my property though. it's illegal to discharge a bb or a pellet gun inside city limits. my cats don't carry guns.

why would fat food and playing make fayeroe not defend me if someone is screaming at me? she would love me more and attack more often.

you have a lot of explaining to do on this one, missy...........

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No, I thought you said the dog has lost weight. but then, if you didn't feed fayeroe, it might eat the neighbor lol

my bad

if they sold kitty switchblades, i'd get those and little holsters with those glock guns........

no, fayedy weighs in at her same old 53 lbs.......just one lean and red machine..........but fayedy's thing is that she is so long that when she stands on her hind legs, she's up there closer to the big boy's faces than most dogs.

how about teaching kitties to carry bricks???

they could have kitty backpacks full of bricks, glocks and switchblades..........little kitty terrorists......

((((((( HUGS ))))))) ~ ~ ~ ~ ((((((( HUGS ))))))) - I am sorry...

I understand where you are coming from and going through, for my neighbor has a drinking problem, a shooting his hand gun off problem, and a Bipolar Disorder that he over medicates for.... this often leaves me family at his calling when he is having a bad day or suffering family issues / problems, for he seems to use who ever he can to release his anger upon.... Big Sigh!!

BTW - the fence may not help..... for my neighbor just stagers around it and comes back when he is really in the mood to let off steam - some times we just stay inside our house when we can see him outside or we go to our back yard.... fenced it in a year ago and we have a big dog - so the neighbor does not physically come back there, but his loud voice sure can carry the distance - Eeeek!!


LoVe,
Rhapsody - (((( hugs ))))

I also have the drunk neighbor issue. Mine isn't really too agressive, but scary still. He comes in my yard when Im not home and bangs on the door to bother my dog (who hates him), and dig through my shed and take what he wants. Another neighbor alerted me to this behavior. I have since installed video cameras and put up signs.

It shows what alcohol can do to people. I hope the police do something about yours. Good luck with this. I know how frustrating it can be.

gemstone, camera, that was gonna be my next sugg for fayerody. Film the booger drunk driving, drunk yelling, drunk whatever. Document whatever you can. Maybe even give a snippet to the jerk so he can see who he is when he's drunk.

How old are these problem people? Not that it matters....

Surrounding you and yours and all the poor animals in your hood with protective white light, soft, safe, diffusive white light, an ethereal fog, penetrating, softening, calming, sobering, white light.......

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How old are these problem people? Not that it matters....

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Mine is a single adult male.... AGE: 37
I am presently trying to help his 67 year old mother get him some help - may have to be court ordered.

LoVe,
Rhapsody -