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Old Dec 30, 2010, 10:21 AM
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I just found this thread for the first time and it has been good to read the replies. I definitely think that learning to stop the negative talk is a great idea.

Lately it has finally been hitting me how so much of my feelings right now are related to being bored. Just too much time....That means there is even MORE room for negative self talk and pity and guilt. Now I just need to figure out how to get motivated to be busier! I know this is vicious cycle.

Having said that, I also hope that you won't use your self pity to beat up on yourself with more.. What I mean is this; you feel the way you do for a lot of reasons. I doubt you woke up one day and said "Self- I am going to have a hard life. I am going to have troubles that will confuse me and make me sad or worried or----".

In other words, I think you should acknowledge that your feelings are real. That you do have issues and that is difficult. Then allow yourself some time to be sad about it, and then move on from there. Don't let those thoughts add to your guilt- which is what I do.(feel bad for feeling bad for myself which then makes me feel guiltier and then bad for myself and then sorry for felling sorry yadda yadda).

So if you need to cry it out- do it. Go ahead and find a little space for it, but THEN leave it in it's own compartment, and go visit another place- the one where you are positive and proactive and living for now and not yesterday. It's not that I think self pity is good for us, I just think that we need to be kind to ourselves without feeling bad about it. Not sure that i am making ANY sense at all here, sorry!
Thanks for this!
lonegael

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Old Dec 30, 2010, 01:06 PM
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Yes, CBT can help. Cognitive-behavioral therapy. My problem is that I keep remembering how productive I was before I was hit with bipolar disorder. But I try to keep focusing on what I can do NOW and realize that I could even be worse off and take one day at a time. I am finding things about my life now that ARE good and that wouldn't be the case if I were not in the shape I'm in....
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 02:01 PM
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I love your "so what?" response, lonegael. Another word I like to use is "yet" as in, "I don't have. . . can't do. . . don't feel. . ." I'll add "yet". Things take time and living is in the whole process, not just the end result. We can learn and do good stuff at any time along the way.
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Thanks for this!
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Old Dec 31, 2010, 11:12 AM
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Hate to say it, but sometimes I revel in my pity parties.
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Old Dec 31, 2010, 06:55 PM
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Yes! Hence the word "party".
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Old Dec 31, 2010, 11:21 PM
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What I had to teach myself to do was asnswer each of the "Remember?" questions with "And?"
"So what?"
"and the point of bring up this now is...?"
I treat my brain precisely the way you want to, except I challenge it to answer me, give me proof that there is a reason for dragging up the crap other than to just reinforce the bad status quo and make sure I stay low and "safe".
"Remember the time my teacher made fun of my math in front of the class?"
Yep. So? The point is? She's dead now. I'm not. That's all that matters.
"Remember that mom hacks at you even when the others are at the house?"
Yep. She's a nasty wench when she has that mood. And? Her grief, not mine. What does that have to do with now?
I bet your memories never bring up the good things that happen, do they. Instead of trying to get your brain to shut up, try to get it to spew out some of those as well. I'm pretty sure they are there. HUGGGSSSSSSS!
This is a great response Lonegal!
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Old Jan 02, 2011, 02:42 PM
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Thanks for that list, Sundog. I keep forgetting things like that, keep falling down that rabbit hole of depression and confused thinking.


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That is such a good question. I wish I had the answer!!! I am also good at feeling sorry for myself. I think partly it's just the nature of depression. It does tend to make us very focused on our own issues. Here are some things that help me sometimes:

- Keeping busy
- setting myself small goals so that I feel productive
- interacting with other people
- trying to do things that I enjoy (which isn't much anymore, but there are some things!!!)
- Making a list of all the things in my life I am grateful for
- Getting involved with a cause that I believe in and which helps people (or, in my case, animals) less fortunate than myself
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Old Jan 02, 2011, 02:58 PM
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There's a lot of great collective wisdom here. Thanks. It IS important to remember the positive things that happen, and to remember compassion for ourselves. I instantly start bludgeoning myself with criticism and regrets, despair about changing anything in the future. I also start feeling that at age 55, my life is over. I have to push past the fatigue and brain fog and self-absorption that depression causes. I've always backed down from things that are really hard or scary. It's a lousy way to live. I want to have more character than that.
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