This reduces my depression by half in one hour, etc.

Hi Steve,

I wondered if these images might help?

Hand near chest, chin, (also on stomach) shows partially opened fist. Some of the images look very similar to martial arts positions Im familiar with.









Hand near chin







I wasnt able to find any images with hand around the ear area, but question: Can the cotton be wetted before being inserted? Can you elaborate more about the ear position? What steps should be taken to avoid puncturing the ear drum? What should our mind be doing during these steps? Are we seeking to empty our thoughts, or focus on something specific? What about breathing? Deep breathes or shallower, steady breathes?

Thanks!

Thanks allim. I see Shery didnt reply to my post but her recent posts say she takes SSRI's which may explain why she didnt get a benefit, or it could be another reason because I couldnt find out exactly what she did. In several of my posts I posted about whether SSRI's may reduce the effect. Is everyone here on them so if that is the culprit, then I guess thats that. Allim do you take any antideprressants?

In answer to you Allim, it doesnt matter how you hold your hand, whether in a fist or open, unless lying down, and then only to not allow your entire palm to touch your upper chest, only the heal of your palm and the backs of your fingers. in a losse or tight fist. BTW mothers wrote into a website to say their infant kept putting its finger in its ear.

Dont get the cotton wet, replace it if it does. Organic cotton only. Dont jam the cotton in the ear hard, because then it gets too flat and is hard to remove, GENTLY tap it in until it stops going in because it is touching the inner wall next to the ear canal where an ear plug for noise would go when you wear them. , the size of a small marble, large enough to duplicate the feel of your fingertip inserted to touch the inner wall next to the ear canal which is of course miles from the ear drum, but not so big as to be uncomfortable,or be able to tap in to touch that inner wall, definitely considerably larger than a pea, lets say the biggest piece that does not feel uncomfortable after fifteen minutes of wear. By no means small enough to even begin to fit into the ear canal. Like an earplug you would wear for noise., rolled into a ball. CHeck it every so often to make sure it doesnt come away from that inner chamber , touching the inner wall, it is that slight pressure on that innermost wall that triggers the benefit. and since it is such an exact spot, we can surmise that the fetus didnt need to touch it nearly as often as holding his hand up to form a useful gene, because it IS as effective as holding your hand near your chin or clavicle, because when you hold your hand up there is a huge number of possibly ways one can do this and so to evolve int a gene that worked well one would , so it seems, nave to hold his hands up a hell of a lot more than putting his finger in his ear or nose or the middle of the mouth, which also work great. , but all three involve touching the same identical spot, or maybe the evolutionary process is aided by the fact that there was pressure against a spot, and in holding the hands merely up, that is not the case. Just my thoughts on why all of those ways of doing it give the same resultss.

Allim what your rmind does , or how you breathe or hold your legs is irrelevant. Thanks again for the images,in a sense an image can be misleading thuogh because I tested having my hand or hands everywhere and know which poses are the best ones so an image my not always be one of the top ways of doing it, for example I dont think touching the hands together is good and maybe not crossing the hand over to the other side of the sternum so I just say it the way I said it, the closer to my chin I got with my hand the stronger it got, but not that much stronger than near my claviclebut actually the clavicle is near teh chin, not so close as to make it uncomfortable.if it is uncomfortable for someone and really anywhere upper chest high will provide a very large benefit. Of course the cotton makes it easier . It has to be organic.

The big problem though is that radiation, why dont you see if you can block it the way I described in a prior post, although Im not promising success at that, but worth a try. And like I said SSRI's may be a problem. BUt this is so powerful an antidepressant action that playing with this method would be very worthwhile. Maybe you would find that just wearing it during sleep hours when everyone's electronics would be off would be enough to relieve enough of your depression as to not be a problem any more. I tell you one thing, if I hadnt blocked that electronic radiation I would be depressed all the time, I am around mine almost all day . but then again I dont know how well off I might be just wearing it during sleep because I treat it all the time.

Thanks Steve Lord

This is very rare but some people live right next to a street power line or electrical transmission tower, the giant ones or cell phone tower or giat tv tower whicih will mess up an entire neighborood, for the ones I listed after the normal street ower line ,I know that if ones body is within twenty feet of one or less that would be too close .

ONe other thing I want to stress is that this method eliminates even the slightest trace of depression, for all these years except in one extreme grieving situation. After feeling depression almost every day for at least parts of the day my whole life to varying degrees.

Steve Lord

Im not on meds. I smoke. I drink more than average coffee amounts. I exercise and practice a self taught form of yoga and meditate. It all seems to be working pretty well for me. Ive had a lifetime of depression too, began at 15, but I feel significantly recovered. Therapy was a great benefit to me and I was prescribed zoloft but I stopped taking it about 6 years ago. I also practice spirituality.

The ear method sounds like you're pressing an internal pressure point?

Are you saying the left arm shouldnt cross to the right side of the body, and vice versa?

Im a little confused by the gene information, over my head.

So, by adopting these positions, it 'fools' our brain to believe it should send out growth building enzymes which also produce a natual sedative (?) effect on brain chemistry?

Sorry, Im not a doctor, just a working class guy.

Allim, I ihad some therapy but it was not helpful, because I guess I wasnt actually messed up. That depression I felt at some points of almost every day,was either a longing for something I didnt have, or from a chemical lack.

Yeah, I dont think its good to cross beyond the sternum like you said above. with your hands.

Acupressure conks out over a period of an hour so not a pressure point. If it wasnt something we did throughout our history, it will always conk out is my invarable finding, in an hour or less. , and often be too weak.

Not quite re what you are saying is your understnding of why it works. Its easiest to say by duplicating the most common positions in the womb, , one triggers gretly imrpoved funtioning of every part or aspect or system in the human body, including serotonin increase, dopamine increase,the latter I know because my dopamine deficient conditon of restless leg syndrome improves a bit vs when I dont treat, immediately, endorphins too I would guess, I am more complacent, less pain if I have pain.

Spirituality eh? Do you believe in channelling? I sure do. Thats where I read one can block electronic radiation by intent, Eliasforum.org. Elias is being channelled.

Steve Lord

I'm willing to try anything, but this didn't work for me.

At least you tried it.

Steve- Even though Im happy with my current self treatment, Im still interested in this. Especially the Qigong aspects. Thank you.

This all seems a bit too complicated for me! It seems like an awful lot to go thru just to have one hour less of depression a day; if it did work for me, it would only be because I would be distracted for at least an hour just trying to figure this out.

Thanks, tho.

Some people work on puzzles to distract them, some like mysteries.... I find this to be a good distraction and quite useful even if I dont understand everything. It sounds like you position your hands in an exact way. Has to be exact for it to work.

The energy waves are real. We're surrounded by electronic devices that all emit frequencies that can go through walls so you know it can go through you. Harmless? Depends how sensitive you are.

I just like to keep an open mind about things. Qigong is a serious art form. It includes thousands of medical treatments.

Yay for energy therapy! Sounds to me like you have found your own version of energy meridian stimulation and it's doing great for you. This reminds me of reiki, chakra work, thought field therapy, etc. I have done a lot of stuff like this over the years, sometimes with better results than at other times, but I too have some great stories to tell.

Tell us?

Ah, tell me what you did if you will, including your electronics situation includinig if you have adjoining apartments and if you take SSRI's or other immune suppressing drugs such as antianxiety, and how long you did it and were your rings off, thanks and how close to a street power line you are

Steve Lord

Shortandcute, the point of trying it for an hour is to see what if any percent of someone elses depression it caused and if it worked at all, then one can duplicate the action by putting a piece of organic cotton ball in the ear to duplicate the fetus exploring his ear which works in everyone who has tried it as well as the fetal hand position, and wear it whenever not too near electronics OR as I hope I posted , I have been successful in being able to block the elelctronic radiation by intent all the time, and so I am now depression free at all moments for more than a decade with only one short grieving experience at a huge loss. If it all worked out then depression would be a thing of the past for everyone. But two people here tried it and said it didnt work, but I dont have any feedback as of yet what it was they tried and under what conditons to see if they did it right, and whether electronics interfered and as in SHery's case, and possibly the other person, the SSRI's arefamous for immune suppression which is exactly the opposite of one of the major things the fetal hand thing does, and in doing so I know that its action is reduced for other things, I warned about it in my intro posts, so maybe for most people, and Im sure most of you take SSRI's, perhaps this wont work while on SSRI's. But as I also posted, I found this so extraordinary for my depression that there would be no need to take an SSRI.

Steve Lord

Allim, one hand is fine, and it does NOT have to be done in a precise position , anywhere up if held reasonably still meaning not moving them continuously as in qi gong and tai chi in which they lose effectiveness by moving them all the time, with nothing in the hand is fine preferably near the chin or clavicle or upper chest.

Steve

Please notice that there is a commonality to everything I posted here. Duplicating the conditions of a million years ago when our genes were being formed keeps our genes happy, but once we introduced man made things, pharmaceuticals, synthetic garments, especially nylon, electronic radiation, and even foods we were not experiencing then, hi fat, sweet, animal foods, etc, our genes dont like it and so our bodies dont work as well.

STeve Lord