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Old Jul 04, 2013, 09:16 AM
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I'm always a bit shocked when people use their illness to get things. I have never done that. All I want is getting better health, that would be a much better reward than having to do something boring or unpleasant.
Yes, I have known people to not want to get better because they know they get more attention and more satisfaction being ill. Almost like woe is me, have pity on my poor soul.
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Old Jul 04, 2013, 09:24 AM
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I once had a therapist who, I felt after a time, was quietly angry with me for not responding in the way he "expected"---or, more accurately, in a way that would make him feel successful. I wonder if your t. wants to "blame" someone for not "fixing" your depression somehow-------------maybe cannot tolerate the long swim herself.
My thoughts about my former t were reinforced when a friend (my supervisor at work actually---who insisted on getting the name from me thinking I was doing so well that...) saw him and had a very bad experience.
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Old Jul 04, 2013, 12:26 PM
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Depression isn't the same for everyone but there are few that are cured by thinking happy thoughts.
Very few, for most with ongoing depression its not exactly a possibility.
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Old Jul 04, 2013, 01:46 PM
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I had another thought while I was out today. In a way it's kind of risky to be happy or admit when things are going well. It's almost like it's inviting disaster. Does anyone get that?
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Old Jul 04, 2013, 02:17 PM
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I had another thought while I was out today. In a way it's kind of risky to be happy or admit when things are going well. It's almost like it's inviting disaster. Does anyone get that?
Sure, its like walking a tightrope will I fall or not.
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Old Jul 04, 2013, 02:42 PM
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I can understand being afraid of being hopeful. I still am and I don't have much active depression. It takes a while to really realize the ice is going to hold.

As for people who whine, I feel they are often exaggerating their issue and it can be anything, not only depression, actually more often something else, like a partner, another illness, the job or whatever. They don't want to change because they are actually not as miserable as they say and they like the drama. There is rather an antisocial or narcissistic tendency but people often can't see through what they present.

If they were truly depressed they would beg for anything to get better. I know I did. Being at my worst was utterly scary, confusing, draining and ruined me of ANY pleasure, I didn't even enjoy food because food didn't have a taste and I couldn't listen to music because I couldn't make out the tune, all I heard was random noise. The only relief I got is if I could cry.
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Old Jul 05, 2013, 12:48 PM
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Old Jul 05, 2013, 01:32 PM
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If really ill, and someone said walk over that broken glass bare foot and you will be cured, you would do it in the blink of an eye. If someone said eat that dog s*** twice a day for a month you would do it in the blink of an eye. THAT JUST ABOUT SUMS UP CLINICAL DEPRESSION.
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Old Jul 05, 2013, 04:40 PM
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I could handle the broken glass without much problem. The dog **** probably not. Major depression brings along it's little friends too such as elements of OCD that would make eating dog **** next to impossible.
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Old Jul 06, 2013, 03:31 AM
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I could handle the broken glass without much problem. The dog **** probably not. Major depression brings along it's little friends too such as elements of OCD that would make eating dog **** next to impossible.
That's right people don't understand , they say they have O C D, anxierty , shaking, terror, panic attacks, but if they had clinical depression all these are thrown in for free. George believe me to get out depression you would eat the s***.
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Old Jul 06, 2013, 05:11 AM
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People are still ignorant...even some that have lots of letters behind their names.
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Old Jul 06, 2013, 06:41 PM
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If really ill, and someone said walk over that broken glass bare foot and you will be cured, you would do it in the blink of an eye. If someone said eat that dog s*** twice a day for a month you would do it in the blink of an eye. THAT JUST ABOUT SUMS UP CLINICAL DEPRESSION.
Don't know about that, I have clinical depression its only been diagnosed multiple times. BUt it doesn't mean I do what anyone says in the blink of an eye, more means I'd take desperate measures to potentially reduce the pain/misery...but not to the point of eating dog s*** because someone tells me to, since i know dog s*** isn't a treatment that would not be something I'd be desperate to try.

When it comes to drugs, if there is something to relieve my pain I am all for it. But I doubt everyone with clinical depression is exactly the same or deals with it in the exact same ways.
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Old Jul 06, 2013, 06:51 PM
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People are still ignorant...even some that have lots of letters behind their names.
If I had a therapist say that to me, I'd begin to wonder about their opinion on those who use psyche meds.

When interviewing for a new therapist, Do you accept my insurance, are you taking new clients and do you find weakness of character because of psyche meds(if they answer yes, don't go, they don't get the bigger picture)

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Old Jul 07, 2013, 03:20 AM
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Don't know about that, I have clinical depression its only been diagnosed multiple times. BUt it doesn't mean I do what anyone says in the blink of an eye, more means I'd take desperate measures to potentially reduce the pain/misery...but not to the point of eating dog s*** because someone tells me to, since i know dog s*** isn't a treatment that would not be something I'd be desperate to try.

When it comes to drugs, if there is something to relieve my pain I am all for it. But I doubt everyone with clinical depression is exactly the same or deals with it in the exact same ways.
The dog s*** is just a metaphor , I could have said anything. Clinical depression in full flow is dead man walking. To rid myself of that I would anything except chop me penis off , the odd ball yes, arm yes . you would your in a world of pain than know one but yourself can understand.
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Old Jul 07, 2013, 04:06 AM
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Dear friend, sometimes you can just get lost in you, lose the incentive to life, at this moment you can't make a choice to be happy. The exit from the recession is long and difficult process for many people. In my opinion, the choice to be happy is very important, but it is effective only when you have understood, that can no longer suffer and are willing to take a different path for you. And it is very hard, it's hard to get to this point. Hold on , you'll certainly will be happy!!!
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