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Old Aug 04, 2014, 04:43 PM
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When you're ready to take the plunge (which I have and survived...bleah) would you be willing to go on a military/CIA type suicide mission? Remembering my mindset at the time I doubt I'd be in any condition to be of service but I've thought about that since. It would probably involve some hefty traveling too and I hate traveling. It would be interesting though if the government had some kind of suicidal recruitment. I'm guessing not...talk about a PR nightmare.

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Old Aug 04, 2014, 04:57 PM
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Hello Blues47.

I have also attempted and am still here..
No, I don't think I would. If I were "ready" I would want to go on my own terms, not anyone else's, and not for the greater good. As you know, when you are having suicidal thoughts, you aren't necessarily ready to die; you're desperate and looking to end your pain. Depression is self serving, not self sacrificing. I doubt that a suicide bomber is actually suicidal in the way that you are describing. My question to you would be why do you want to go on a suicide mission? What would this accomplish?

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Old Aug 04, 2014, 05:02 PM
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I think the problems would be being in condition with your mindset and all, to be of service. To be able to focus well enough to take out the enemy, which is the objective. They would probably rather you not go in there with the desire to take out yourself. I was thinking along this line yesterday though. As miserable as I am I cannot bear the thought of suicide. But I can see myself doing something like Clint Eastwood did in that move "the Gran Torino", where he approached gang leaders unarmed to sacrifice himself in order to save the boy next door who was being hounded by the gang. Of course his character in the movie knew he was going to die a slow, painful death of lung cancer so he decided he would go out his way.
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Old Aug 04, 2014, 05:28 PM
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My question to you would be why do you want to go on a suicide mission? What would this accomplish?

Well I don't really, like you said when you get to that point you're not really thinking that way. But I'm guessing many of us in depresso-land read the news and hear about soldiers and civilians getting killed every day that probably loved life and we think...'well that would be convenient'. And no matter how self-serving, I think most of us even in our most painful moment would like to spare those that care about us the added grief of suicidal aftermath.
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Old Aug 04, 2014, 07:12 PM
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Not sure what the requirements are for the forces in the US, but over here and with it noted that you've made an attempt along with no doubt a diagnosis of depression... you would probably be ruled out at selection. Nature of the beast if you look at it in purely logical terms - would you be stable enough to endure training and then be consistent in the field... would you endanger the lives of other soldiers... and that would be the crux of the matter to me.

Mental and emotional stability are big factors to consider in the forces (intelligence is a side issue).

I hope this doesn't come across as a harsh rebuttal, by all means investigate and see what it leads too... just I have a feeling it would be a no.
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Old Aug 04, 2014, 07:40 PM
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investigate and see what it leads too... just I have a feeling it would be a no.

I'm sure it would be. Really this is intended more as a thought experiment...like 'in a universe where this was a thing would you be into it'.
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 12:37 PM
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I'd probably be too damn tired, but if it didn't require getting out of bed early or at a reasonable hour, doing a lot of things, being active, walking more than the bare minimum I do now in a day and lifting my arms up higher than necessary, I'd go for it.
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 03:28 PM
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Mental illness is too risky. They wouldn't entrust us with such a mission. Or maybe they would, those assassin type special ops guys have to be nuts in order to do those kinds of missions.

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