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Old Aug 25, 2014, 07:33 PM
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Don't tell me it's not true because it's very obvious at this point. Not sure what I did that has annoyed everyone but I'm not sure what I can do about it. I'm tired of dealing with people ********ting me. Everyone always spewing their copy paste rhetoric at me. Copy paste copy paste copy paste. Hiding your hatred. I can see what you're thinking with a clear eye. I'm not fooled. You'd slit my throat *with a smile!!!* If you could. I'm not sure I want the true you but I know the fake you is bad as well. Not to say I am a better person.
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Are you referring to people here?

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Old Aug 25, 2014, 08:41 PM
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Are you referring to people here?
Yes I am. People in real-life. Everyone.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 11:45 PM
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I'm not going to tell you what you are feeling and seeing isn't true, that is for you, that is your reality.

The real me takes the slightest offense to this because of what a caring individual I am and how that is a huge integral part of my being (I understand you aren't attacking anyone and didn't mean to offend, you're just venting your truths, what's on your mind, how you feel and that you have something to say and it's important to be heard), I don't think I'd be me without a heart to fit everyone and thing into it (though I have been told by my Therapist while she wants me to remain this casing person I need to tone it down as it had left me open and extremely vulnerable). But that very real caring side of me hurts deeply for you to read this, to know these are your genuine feelings and your entitled to them but you shouldn't have to feel these toes of feelings or at least to the magnitude to which you do, something manageable.

To wonder what has happened here, there, anywhere to you to make you so distrustful, mad and even sad. I'm in turn sad for you and I hope you can find just one light from within someone to show you you aren't alone in this confusing darkness and not everyone is like how you perceive.

I don't know you well enough to hate you and I don't even truly hate people who have done horrible, disgusting, disturbing things to me, which I will not make mention of but can be surmised through reading my profile of just what these terrible things are. It's really too exhausting for me when all I want to do is love and care and hoe the world lives and cars back (it doesn't always, but when it does, it's work the effort).

No copying or pasting, nor empty words were made in the creation of this post, only real raw emotion and messages from my heart to yours.

I do want for you to be 'ok'. Be good to yourself even when others choose not to be. You're valid.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 03:52 AM
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Well, I know we haven't talked much at all, but I at least don't hate you, you seem like a nice enough person from what I've seen in the chats. Yeah there will always be people that hate others, but you just gotta try and believe when someone says they don't... I know how hard that can be tough,
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Well, I know we haven't talked much at all, but I at least don't hate you, you seem like a nice enough person from what I've seen in the chats. Yeah there will always be people that hate others, but you just gotta try and believe when someone says they don't... I know how hard that can be tough,
Yeah it can be rather hard.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 07:06 AM
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I don't hate you.....this is irrational thinking.
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I don't hate you.....this is irrational thinking.
I full well know it isn't rational. Though. It doesn't stop the feeling I get from others.
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I don't hate you. I remember some threads you have started and it didn't seem people were copying and pasting but sincerely posting.

Is it the feeling you get from others or is it your perception of what others are thinking and feeling?
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I'm sorry. Sometimes it only takes one person or a few people who "hate us without cause" and the world can feel like a bleak and hopeless place. I'm not sure of your situation but sometimes communication can help. Or sometimes not

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Old Aug 26, 2014, 02:32 PM
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I don't hate you. I remember some threads you have started and it didn't seem people were copying and pasting but sincerely posting.

Is it the feeling you get from others or is it your perception of what others are thinking and feeling?
I wrote some kind words to someone on here and was asked by someone else who saw those kind words if they could copy and paste what I had wrote so that they could use that with other people. People don't really care and just hope you'll feel better if they spew some copy paste at you and see what happens. It might help to those who are blind. Though I'd think doing that type of stuff to people would rot you out from the inside. People do nothing but copy paste. If someone dies, "sorry." Though really they don't care. They just say it so they don't look like an ***.

I just look around and that is what I see. I go out, everyone is scowling. Online, everyone ignores what I have to say. "He is just posting some weird **** again let's ignore him and hope he goes away."
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I'm sorry you feel that way. I've found that most people here do care, compared to many IRL. but sometimes, like me, people don't have the exact right words to help. Or don't say anything because they think somebody else could say it better.

Many people are sensitive to being ignored, it can be a trigger for some.

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Old Aug 26, 2014, 02:39 PM
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I'm sorry. Sometimes it only takes one person or a few people who "hate us without cause" and the world can feel like a bleak and hopeless place. I'm not sure of your situation but sometimes communication can help. Or sometimes not

Communication doesn't help. If people don't like you- they don't like you. You can try to gain their favor but you'll always be stained in their eyes.
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Maybe so. if they don't like you, it's about them and their background and "triggers" and their good and bad points. It isn't really about you, especially online. They might be projecting things onto you which don't fit at all... Their stuff from past abuse.

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Old Aug 26, 2014, 02:43 PM
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If people don't like you- they don't like you.
Not everyone has to like you and that's ok (it's probably their own issues and has little to truly do with you if anything at all), sure it sucks and hurts even but then you have to try to let those kinds of negative forces out of your life.

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Old Aug 26, 2014, 03:11 PM
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Not everyone has to like you and that's ok (it's probably their own issues and has little to truly do with you if anything at all), sure it sucks and hurts even but then you have to try to let those kinds of negative forces out of your life.

Look forward to and find the people who do like you Everyone Hates Me They matter, not those other guys.
I don't think anyone actually likes me. The few that did I push away eventually because they only see a small part of me. People who are nice to me only talk to me when they notice their favorite person to talk to isn't around. So they see me as better than nothing. I guess which is better than nothing but not a very good thing to be told that I am who they go to so they aren't talking to a wall.

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Many people are sensitive to being ignored, it can be a trigger for some.

I'm always ignored. I'd think being ignored would trigger most people.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 03:23 PM
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Maybe so. if they don't like you, it's about them and their background and "triggers" and their good and bad points. It isn't really about you, especially online. They might be projecting things onto you which don't fit at all... Their stuff from past abuse.
I've heard this before. The uh it's their fault not mine thing. Though not to downplay your words because it does have merit. It is generally considered the disliked one's fault.

If someone is complaining or talking crap about someone the listeners will comfort them and agree telling them that they are right and the person they are talking crap about is a garbage person. I guess it's all about angering the least amount of people and there is no reason to contradict someone you are directly talking to by perhaps not agreeing with their hate for someone. Sort of like wives talking about their ex-husbands would be the best example for that.

If a kid is being bullied in school and everyone finds him irritating and a pain in the *** what does one do. Tell the class they are the problem? No usually the lone kid is the problem. Though if you are in a room talking to the irritating kid you aren't going to tell him he is the problem.
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Those kinds of people who only use you when it is convenient and have no one else aren't worth your time or energy.

Though it must feel nice to get the attention you crave because you do feel so ignored, but don't you end up feeling worse like you do now because of their reasons behind giving you that attention... ?

I wouldn't want to stay in that place but I know it isn't easy to let go, even those people who let you down are hard to let go as confusing as it is, but at the end of the day I feel no one really wants to be alone.

I might be stretching it here but maybe you have abandonment issues... I know I do and continue to struggle in that area still where I keep hanging on to 'leeches'.
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Those kinds of people who only use you when it is convenient and have no one else aren't worth your time or energy.

Though it must feel nice to get the attention you crave because you do feel so ignored, but don't you end up feeling worse like you do now because of their reasons behind giving you that attention... ?

I wouldn't want to stay in that place but I know it isn't easy to let go, even those people who let you down are hard to let go as confusing as it is, but at the end of the day I feel no one really wants to be alone.

I might be stretching it here but maybe you have abandonment issues... I know I do and continue to struggle in that area still where I keep hanging on to 'leeches'.
I'm not sure. How would one develop abandonment issues?

I am isolated and haven't talked to another person besides my parents and the occasional sibling physically in over 3 years. I quickly cut people out.
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People making heavy sarcastic replies and sneaking threads towards and about me. Then they turn around and act like they care. THIS IS SUCH ****. WHAT THE ****. I thought they were nice. They lied to me this entire time. Always lying to me. I feel like I should be hurt. Though I know I just haven't been hit with it yet. Delayed response. Or maybe I am hurting right now but I am so numb and used to being betrayed. I sort of knew their true feelings behind the support. They hated me. It seems like I can manage to fool myself that a forum is full of nice people when in reality it is a group of people who are close to one another and they hate people like me. They see me as a plague on here. Eradicate the plague.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 04:28 PM
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A person develops abandonment issues through disappointments with dependability over the course of their life (one occasion is sometimes all it takes). Or a big one is when someone leaves either physically or stops whatever significant role (maybe assumes another less satisfactory one) they've played in your life.

It doesn't have to be recent, could even be childhood, it can stem back a long ways.

But if you feel that isn't the case something else must have gone on or is going on. And maybe in part the pushing has caused these people to take a back seat, I really don't know but I hope you get to the root of this and can dig your way out to find a happier place where you have faith in people again.
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A person develops abandonment issues through disappointments with dependability over the course of their life (one occasion is sometimes all it takes). Or a big one is when someone leaves either physically or stops whatever significant role (maybe assumes another less satisfactory one) they've played in your life.

It doesn't have to be recent, could even be childhood, it can stem back a long ways.

But if you feel that isn't the case something else must have gone on or is going on. And maybe in part the pushing has caused these people to take a back seat, I really don't know but I hope you get to the root of this and can dig your way out to find a happier place where you have faith in people again.
My parents are still around though which I assume if the main culprit for those with abandonment issues.

I don't know what is going on. It's not that I pushed them away, it's that they realized how weird I am and stopped talking to me. Along with my general fear of doing anything, my life is pretty much over.

I talk to my sister through text and I get that she only talks to me out of pity. I guess you could say yeah I have lost all faith in humanity. Such a lack of faith that I don't even go outside anymore aka agoraphobia. Though I was always agoraphobic to a point, it didn't just develop out of thin air. It's just everyone sort of helped feed it.

Can't trust people because it seems like I AM CONSTANTLY BEING STABBED IN THE BACK.
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Robot,
I've been stabbed in the back many times, but it doesn't stop me from interacting with people. The worse thing you can do is isolate yourself, everyone needs human interaction.
You don't have to be "best buddies" with people, but having acquaintances can help you.
I find people with similar interests and have a good time, when I'm around them. I keep things light and I don't go into too much detail about myself. I've met some really nice people by doing this.
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I believe I see now. When you had referred to 'pushing away' others you didn't mean actively or directly, rather that they saw a small part of you that they didn't understand and pushed away from the situation rather than trying to see the whole picture, all of you and be empathetic, try to understand.

As for Abandonment, you aren't wrong that this happens with children/parents relationships, but it can come from any number of sources with no one being a majority. Such as Friends, Family (aside from parents), Doctors, Peers, etc. You depend and put trust in these people and then they break that trust in the Abandonment kind of way. Trust is broken in too many ways and hard to regain. =(

There is a great pull and need in the Abandoned to hold onto anyone and everyone. Not sure that is you, just discussing this 'off to the side' kind of subject I started within in trying to understand and get educated on what's happening with you.

But know you're not alone, I've been hurt and 'stabbed in the back' too, we've just both reacted differently to it because we are 2 uniquely different people and wenall know no two people will walk away feeling the same from any given situation. You can't trust and I trust too much.
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I've seen you in chat and you seem like a nice person to me. I don't hate you and I like talking with you. It's easy to think that everyone you encounter hates you or is down on you, but that is probably your perception. I have felt the same way at times. I finally realized that while some people do actively hate or dislike me, none of them really give me much thought at all. There are many many good people here on the forum and you could have a lot of friends if you wanted to. (((hugs)))
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