[Idiot17]

I'm just gonna write this and not worry if it's grammatically correct or not making much sense.

I don't understand how a therapist can change the effects of depression. Why would seeing a therapist help? How would talking benefit your depression.

It dawned on me or rather I was forced to realize that i need a therapist. In order for me to try to live life, in order for me to move on, in order to move away from the past I need to see a therapist. And now I'm finally game to try it again.
However I need my parents to be game to it too. Several of you already know my parents attitude towards all this. They think it's all trash and snap out of it kind of thing.

Here comes the reason of this post.
How do i tell my parents? How can I have a decent conversation with them? I don't need to tell them but I would if I want insurance to cover it. How can I speak to them and have them understand. I want to know how I can try to make them see the need, to make them realize that it might actually be a good thing. How to have a successful, mature and intelligent conversation with them? A conversation where I don't just give up and stop participating in.

If possible I'd appreciate opinions and views from all to see a parents viewpoint and my own. Thanks.

[kaliope]

well I would present them with the facts of depression, the red flags so to speak. you can find them anywhere online. even a depression inventory such as the becks. and then let them know all the symptoms of depression that you are suffering from. the ways you have tried to cope that haven't worked. and your desire to see a qualified professional to assist you with coping skills.

[TheOriginalMe]

(((((I17))))))
Believe it or not you have done the hardest bit by admitting to yourself that you need help. It won't be easy talking to your parents but now you accept you need therapy you will find it easier to stick up for yourself.

[Crazy Hitch]

I've given up trying to make other people understand. It is what it is and I can't keep apologizing.

I saw my T today. I was sooooo down before I saw her. When I'm depressed I can't think rationally or very clearly. Through speaking to her about the situations I'm facing this week she gave me three positive strategies I can try. Wouldn't have even thought of them myself. She's not there to pat me on the shoulder to say I'm sorry dear. She's always constructive.

Be well and I hope you find the support you deserve.

[Altered Moment]

Originally Posted by Idiot17

I'm just gonna write this and not worry if it's grammatically correct or not making much sense.

I don't understand how a therapist can change the effects of depression. Why would seeing a therapist help? How would talking benefit your depression.

It dawned on me or rather I was forced to realize that i need a therapist. In order for me to try to live life, in order for me to move on, in order to move away from the past I need to see a therapist. And now I'm finally game to try it again.
However I need my parents to be game to it too. Several of you already know my parents attitude towards all this. They think it's all trash and snap out of it kind of thing.

Here comes the reason of this post.
How do i tell my parents? How can I have a decent conversation with them? I don't need to tell them but I would if I want insurance to cover it. How can I speak to them and have them understand. I want to know how I can try to make them see the need, to make them realize that it might actually be a good thing. How to have a successful, mature and intelligent conversation with them? A conversation where I don't just give up and stop participating in.

If possible I'd appreciate opinions and views from all to see a parents viewpoint and my own. Thanks.

Therapy can be very beneficial for depression. It depends on the causes and what methods the therapists uses. If you have hurts and traumas from the past or not the best parental support then you can vent and process and a good therapist can help you look at things and deal with them differently.

I am going today. Sometimes I think what is the point this isn't doing any good. But I like her and it is going good and she helps me look at things in a different light. My issue is dealing with how depression has affected me recently.

With your parents- I agree trying to educate them first. Maybe ask them to read some stuff you have printed and tell them you really need their support in this. Try not to react or get mad or get in a fight or retreat to your room. Just say "I would like you to listen to me for awhile and hear me out"

Here are some articles you might want to print.

What causes depression? - Harvard Health Publications

Depression Symptoms, Information and Treatment - Psych Central

Types & Symptoms of Depression | Psych Central

[vital]

Hi, How about getting a referral through your MD? This might (?) be better insurance-wise and it might help your parents to take it seriously. Plus, there are purely medical things to check if you think you are depressed anyway.

- vital

[Fuzzybear]

((((((((( Idiot17 ))))))))

[Creative1onder]

Originally Posted by Idiot17

I'm just gonna write this and not worry if it's grammatically correct or not making much sense.

I don't understand how a therapist can change the effects of depression. Why would seeing a therapist help? How would talking benefit your depression.

It dawned on me or rather I was forced to realize that i need a therapist. In order for me to try to live life, in order for me to move on, in order to move away from the past I need to see a therapist. And now I'm finally game to try it again.
However I need my parents to be game to it too. Several of you already know my parents attitude towards all this. They think it's all trash and snap out of it kind of thing.

Here comes the reason of this post.
How do i tell my parents? How can I have a decent conversation with them? I don't need to tell them but I would if I want insurance to cover it. How can I speak to them and have them understand. I want to know how I can try to make them see the need, to make them realize that it might actually be a good thing. How to have a successful, mature and intelligent conversation with them? A conversation where I don't just give up and stop participating in.

If possible I'd appreciate opinions and views from all to see a parents viewpoint and my own. Thanks.

The point in seeing a therapist is to identify, understand and overcome or change core issues we have, address negative unhelpful thought and behaviour patterns,not the actual mental health condition itself. Therapists often ask about our past and ask how long you've been like that for. Therapy looks to help the whole person. It focuses on the individuals thoughts, feelings, character, behaviours and lifestyle.

[Creative1onder]

Originally Posted by Idiot17

I'm just gonna write this and not worry if it's grammatically correct or not making much sense.

I don't understand how a therapist can change the effects of depression. Why would seeing a therapist help? How would talking benefit your depression.

It dawned on me or rather I was forced to realize that i need a therapist. In order for me to try to live life, in order for me to move on, in order to move away from the past I need to see a therapist. And now I'm finally game to try it again.
However I need my parents to be game to it too. Several of you already know my parents attitude towards all this. They think it's all trash and snap out of it kind of thing.

Here comes the reason of this post.
How do i tell my parents? How can I have a decent conversation with them? I don't need to tell them but I would if I want insurance to cover it. How can I speak to them and have them understand. I want to know how I can try to make them see the need, to make them realize that it might actually be a good thing. How to have a successful, mature and intelligent conversation with them? A conversation where I don't just give up and stop participating in.

If possible I'd appreciate opinions and views from all to see a parents viewpoint and my own. Thanks.

How does it work having insurance to cover therapy? I've seen private therapists but never had insurance. I'm not sure how it works really or if its easy to get, what the conditions are to be entitled to it.

All I have to offer is the suggestion that you write and have them read it. My son has depression and so do I. We have both discovered (the hard way) that the written word is powerful. It can be read and re-read again when emotions settle down.

[Creative1onder]

What if parents don't want to at and read what we ask/give them to about our condition?if they don't want to know and understand how its like for us? How about therapists/counsellors who don't understand depression-do they need educating differently? See in my experience a lot of therapists seem to be quite judgemental, critical about you, blaming you for negative things,making you feel entirely responsible for your issues. They haven't got good approaches towards people with mental health issues. You want therapy to help you to deal with your issues and support in making pos changes. Its no good if you see therapist and they dismiss things you say,don't believe it like that you have illness or if people have mistreated you.

[Altered Moment]

The issue is that Idiot17 has decided he wants to see a therapist and he has insurance coverage under his parents policy. So his parents have to be on board to get the therapy covered by insurance. How does he get his parents on board since they have not been supportive. That's it in a nutshell Creative1onder. In the US you can stayed covered under your parent insurance policy until you are 27. I imagine it is private insurance that covers mental health services and therapy.

[Creative1onder]

He can do his best to communicate to his parents and see if they will support him in getting therapy but if they arent keen to listen and understand or ignore what he says what can he do.

[Idiot17]

I've tried several times in the past to get them to understand, yet how can controlling and abusive (only abusive to me....I'm the scapegoat) parents let go and let me move on.
My father told me they'll just put me on meds and he refuses to let that happen. He shuns it and says it limits your life and screws you up. He doesn't realize I'm screwed up now.
As zinco said private insurance covers mh services.

I'm thinking of saying it in a way where they'll benefit from it. Only way they'll go ahead with it. Like they want me in a serious relationship and think of the future in those terms. They know I'm not sure yet how I want to proceed with life and career and possibly marriage at one point so I can say that I want to speak to a therapist to figure all that out. They might go for it. I don't know.

Otherwise I'm stuck.

[angelene]

Good luck, dear. I hope they go for it. (((((Idiot17)))))

[Creative1onder]

The issue is not just with your parents, talking and getting their approval. You also want to find a therapist who is right for you, who will listen and understand ur circumstances and help you to move to a better place, rather than be judgemental critical, make you feel bad and not believe you.

[Creative1onder]

A therapists job isnt to advise and tell you how you should or shouldn't think/ be/feel/live and to fix your problems. Thats your responsibility to take control of your own life.

[waterknob1234]

I also like the idea of having something in writing. I also like the idea of getting a referral to a therapist from your medical doc as well as something in writing on this matter from him/her. I have read your past posts about your parents and I know you need a little help to deal with them and their understanding things. I also was wondering if it would be helpful to enlist the aid of another, mature, helpful, trustworthy family member to be with you when you talk to your parents about this matter. Seeing a therapist is a good idea and I wish you the best in this endeavor.

[Creative1onder]

Hope you manage to get a decent therapist who does listen, makes you feel at ease,shows care, understanding and is supportive. A gp referral may not guarantee positive outcome for you but you can try it. You shouldnt have to go private if your on low income.

[Creative1onder]

It really does matter that you find a good therapist suitable for you, that you like their approach, feel comfortable and can trust them. One who isnt bullyish critical of you, who makes you feel worse.

[Idiot17]

I'm a wimp. I can't do it. I quit.
How can you have a conversation with people that can barely speak a civil word to you if at all?

(((((((Idiot17)))))))

You can do this, one way or another....

What about if you showed your parents your postings on PC?

[Creative1onder]

If u cant get through to your parents you can still try to see therapist through your GP , instead of going private.

[Altered Moment]

What if you went on your own? Even if you don't have a card they can look up your insurance.

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[Idiot17]

I actually do have my insurance card.
But I can't use my parents insurance for this without telling them beforehand, I think.

I just don't know how to start the ocnversation, if I should be casual about it or tell them I want to speak to them. Or if I should speak to both parents or only one, and if only one which one.....