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Old Jan 24, 2017, 10:12 AM
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I battled suicidality for many years. In retrospect, I know when I made attempts, my thinking was "selfish." I don't mean that in an insulting or demeaning way -- just in a definitive sort of way. When I was considering suicide, my only focus was on myself, my suffering, my need to escape. Lots of "my's." It is what it is.

I took suicide off the table six years ago when my sister died. My sister had battled cancer multiple times in her life, and that last time she didn't win. Even though we knew her death was probably coming, losing her was devastating. Even though she died from "natural" causes, her death left a hole and pain that never really has gone away. As I watched my parents and my husband and my children weep and mourn and suffer from grief, I realized my life DOES impact those around me. People care about me and love me, and there is no way I could leave this earth, naturally or at my own hand, that would be anything but devastating for the people I care about.

Within a few years time, I lost two more people to suicide. The devastating effects of that kind of death on those that remain is even worse. I won't do that to the people I love. I won't leave them with the legacy of suicide. I won't do that to my parents. I won't do that to my husband. I certainly won't do that to my children.

Suicide is not an option for me any longer. It was amazing how things changed for me when I pulled suicide off my menu. It forced me to change how I handle stressors in my life. It forced me to make changes in my life that were healthier for me psychologically. It forced me to use the healthy coping skills I had been taught but that I had not always used because somehow defaulting to suicide as an option had become, ironically, easier and habitual. It does take a determined change in thinking and habit, but it is possible to take suicide off the menu and find different ways to cope with depression and anxiety. After years of multiple hospitalizations, I've been stable for nearly three years now. I hope things stay that way for me, and I honestly don't foresee that I will ever be in a place again where I put suicide back on the table.
Thanks for this reminder--it is selfish when you have people who love and depend on you. I am glad you have been stable for three years and also hope your recovery is long lasting.
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Old Jan 24, 2017, 10:22 AM
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That's why I swear every person who's ever thought about suicide while suffering like we do and hasn't done it deserves a damn medal. We fight a battle every day, every damn day, sometimes for years, sometimes for decades. What kind of courage and determination does that take??? Incredible, that's what kind.
Sons heroes carry a gun. Some Heroes carry a burden that can't be seen.
Medal of Valor to you, So Leigheas, and to all who have looked that demon in the eye and said "not today"
good post mommaD....with all the suffering there is tremendous bravery and courage that is not seen.....as far as judging someone as selfish...I just wouldn't want to judge...there is just too much we don't understand..
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Old Jan 24, 2017, 06:29 PM
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What about the times when depression makes you simply put yourself first?

The need to get away from that pain is becomes all encompassing.

I have had a lot of physical pain in my life and I remember thinking that if I had a gun, I would have gladly used it.
For me, the pain of depression is equal, if not greater, than physical pain and I tend to not give a rat's *** about what other's will go through because it's not as great as what I am going through.

Is it selfish? No. And that's only something that those who have felt the same way I do would understand.

If it wasn't for this darned hope that keeps getting in the way...
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Old Jan 24, 2017, 07:15 PM
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While I consider suicide at times, I haven't fully attempted it. Usually I'll tell my husband that I'm not doing well, and we go to the ER. I think that's what's keeping me here, even with the pain of depression. I am aware that it won't solve anything, but I still plan it.

I also have BPD, which can become troublesome sometimes.
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Old Jan 24, 2017, 09:11 PM
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Is it a conscious decision accompanied by a selfish agenda? Or is it actually just the sickness finally killing us?


Like, is it that we truly don't care what happens after we die to the people we love?


Is it that we care, we'll always care, but the fact remains that we're sick and hurting and feel as though there's truly no hope to ever get better?


Is it actually selfish if you really believe that the only way to get better is through death so that the people around you will heal, as well? If it is selfish, does that even matter? I mean, if you live for everyone else but yourself, you just delivering yourself to depressions hands, yet again. Maybe a little "selfishness" is justified here. Maybe we're sick and hurting and just need to stop being in so much pain.


I don't know, I just pray to die naturally soon
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Old Jan 24, 2017, 09:44 PM
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I battled suicidality for many years. In retrospect, I know when I made attempts, my thinking was "selfish." I don't mean that in an insulting or demeaning way -- just in a definitive sort of way. When I was considering suicide, my only focus was on myself, my suffering, my need to escape. Lots of "my's." It is what it is.

I took suicide off the table six years ago when my sister died. My sister had battled cancer multiple times in her life, and that last time she didn't win. Even though we knew her death was probably coming, losing her was devastating. Even though she died from "natural" causes, her death left a hole and pain that never really has gone away. As I watched my parents and my husband and my children weep and mourn and suffer from grief, I realized my life DOES impact those around me. People care about me and love me, and there is no way I could leave this earth, naturally or at my own hand, that would be anything but devastating for the people I care about.

Within a few years time, I lost two more people to suicide. The devastating effects of that kind of death on those that remain is even worse. I won't do that to the people I love. I won't leave them with the legacy of suicide. I won't do that to my parents. I won't do that to my husband. I certainly won't do that to my children.

Suicide is not an option for me any longer. It was amazing how things changed for me when I pulled suicide off my menu. It forced me to change how I handle stressors in my life. It forced me to make changes in my life that were healthier for me psychologically. It forced me to use the healthy coping skills I had been taught but that I had not always used because somehow defaulting to suicide as an option had become, ironically, easier and habitual. It does take a determined change in thinking and habit, but it is possible to take suicide off the menu and find different ways to cope with depression and anxiety. After years of multiple hospitalizations, I've been stable for nearly three years now. I hope things stay that way for me, and I honestly don't foresee that I will ever be in a place again where I put suicide back on the table.

Thank you for sharing this. I took suicidal ideation off the table on January 20th, and on January 21st was terminated from my job. It was almost like the Universe was testing me! It has been less than a week but I have found that what you said is already true...that I have been forced to use the healthy coping skills I had been taught, but like you, not always applied because instead I would just fall into suicidal ideation. It is a whole new way of living that takes more courage than ruminating about self-imposed dying. Thank you.
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