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Old Feb 15, 2017, 02:17 PM
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I honestly want to know... how does the NHS mental health system help you? Other than giving meds which I'm allergic to (or in extreme cases I suppose forcing people to take these meds.. )

Like crimsoncat I feel we deserve the right to make our own decision whether to live or die...

And I've been burnt by the NHS one too many times... i do not feel like giving them more chances to harm me

I apologise for the "negativity" - I'm just being "honest"

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Old Feb 15, 2017, 02:31 PM
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Do they (NHS) ever make you feel like you're talking to a wall (at best)

I already regret making this post, but may be losing my "ability" to care about much - too screwed over by their appalling Lack of Care (NHS)
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 02:45 PM
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I hope you don't delete your post, you have as much right to be heard as anyone else here fuzzy

I have been under the mental health team for almost 5 years now. I have lost count of the amount of times I have been in crisis. Been in hospital too many times. And really I have not made any steps forwards. So in that sense I'm not sure they have helped me. Some of them really have tried, and sometimes it has made a bit of difference. The problem is that whatever progress I seem to make, it always ends up with me in the same pit of despair unable to claw my way out.

Last time I was inpatient in October it was such a waste of time that I think I felt worse coming out. And I completely shut everyone out determined to end it. For whatever reason I didn't, and I managed to break out of that state on my own. No idea how. I can feel it coming back though and am trying once again with the mental health team, but I do have that little voice niggling away just saying "what's the point? what are they actually going to do to help?"

I wish I knew the answer.
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 02:55 PM
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I don't mind medications, they have little effect on me, but psychotherapy is frustrating for me.

However generally they helped and cured many people so I don't question their (general) utility.
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 03:04 PM
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I know.... I constantly hear about meds. This is one of the reasons I do not belong here.
(On this planet)
Stuck on repeat? Maybe I'm already in hell

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Old Feb 15, 2017, 03:08 PM
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Thanks, yeah a couple have tried to help me but having been very severely burnt so early in the ? Process I don't let them in..(not that they really try, I'm "low maintenance" - combination of "avoidant traits" and extreme allergies.... I'm screwed
This ridiculous allergic labyrinth would make life intolerable for anyone

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I hope you don't delete your post, you have as much right to be heard as anyone else here fuzzy

I have been under the mental health team for almost 5 years now. I have lost count of the amount of times I have been in crisis. Been in hospital too many times. And really I have not made any steps forwards. So in that sense I'm not sure they have helped me. Some of them really have tried, and sometimes it has made a bit of difference. The problem is that whatever progress I seem to make, it always ends up with me in the same pit of despair unable to claw my way out.

Last time I was inpatient in October it was such a waste of time that I think I felt worse coming out. And I completely shut everyone out determined to end it. For whatever reason I didn't, and I managed to break out of that state on my own. No idea how. I can feel it coming back though and am trying once again with the mental health team, but I do have that little voice niggling away just saying "what's the point? what are they actually going to do to help?"

I wish I knew the answer.
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 03:42 PM
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Why do they use meds as the more important resort? I do not get it
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 07:16 PM
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Why do they use meds as the more important resort? I do not get it
I think it's because meds are so cheap and easy,I have been told I need long term psycotherapy but they can't afford it ,when I told my gp this she was really apalled and said its like me telling you your arm is broken but we wont put a cast on it because the plaster is too expensive! .
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 07:46 PM
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I think it's because meds are so cheap and easy,I have been told I need long term psycotherapy but they can't afford it ,when I told my gp this she was really apalled and said its like me telling you your arm is broken but we wont put a cast on it because the plaster is too expensive! .
When I was in group therapy a few years ago the group leader actually manage to make me feel guilty because I had been seeing a psychologist for over a year and was still a mess. I think that was the last time I went to the group..
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 03:58 AM
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I am not under the NHS, although I have heard plenty about the appalling state of that system, as I live in Australia. My new psychiatrist did another assessment of me (have not had one for 15 years)and tells me I am in the highest bracket and classified as 'severely depressed' which normally he would recommend in-patient and ECT for. He was in a quandary he said, because I am the most high functioning severely depressed person he has ever seen. He put me on new meds instead and whilst I feel tired all the time, I have continued to be as high functioning as usual but the constant suicidal thoughts (several times a day - sometimes all day) have dissipated somewhat. All I can say is that whilst I am still depressed and still feeling suicidal from time to time things have definitely improved. I have suffered from this depression since I as a child - a fair few decades - so all I am trying to say is PLEASE do not give on seeking assistance. There are people who love you who would be destroyed if you did something irreversible. There are people here who do understand and who want the best for you - please don't lose sight of those who care be they your real life family and friends or the online friends you have here. I truly hope you can find some solace and peace in your experience and I assure you I will be thinking of you and wishing you only the best, strength and love.
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 10:35 AM
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Why do they use meds as the more important resort? I do not get it
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