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Old Mar 07, 2017, 10:57 AM
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what is causing all this depression..
I am seeing a lot about the brain being inflamed...
is that causing us trouble...how important..
I am going to be studying this...

what do you all think about this
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Old Mar 07, 2017, 11:26 AM
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Chemistry for sure. One of the things is expectations. Then our ideal world (I think this world actually exists in a very strange strata of reality) colliding with external imperfect one. Different kinds of fears. Separation. Physical endangerment. Fear of imaginary god or guilt. Delusions. Overthinking and obsession. And it goes on and on...
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Old Mar 07, 2017, 10:23 PM
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Brain, first interactions (mom, dad, etc), society (norms, expectations), poverty and inequality, isolation, hyper information, individualism and lack of solidarity, lack of purpose, phisycal illnesses and pain, disability, hormonal changes, mourning a beloved one, changes (divorce, marriage, moving) unemployment, other stressful situations such being victim of violence, trauma. This is my list. Incomplete
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Old Mar 07, 2017, 11:18 PM
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For alot of women. The hormonal changes that happens during the monthly cycle.

Atleast for me I know my depression is strictly chemical. I have PMDD, and the week before my monthly curse I'm unable to leave my bed and I have suicidal thoughts. I hate how low I get.
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Old Mar 08, 2017, 10:32 AM
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I am not sure about this...I need some help...
I think that my ssri causes depression and anxiety when I try to withdraw the drug..
the drug helped me at certain times but I stayed on it believing it was a lifetime problem..
I am looking at the website RxISK about side effects of the ssri drugs...
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Old Mar 08, 2017, 11:27 AM
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I am not sure about this...I need some help...
I think that my ssri causes depression and anxiety when I try to withdraw the drug..
the drug helped me at certain times but I stayed on it believing it was a lifetime problem..
I am looking at the website RxISK about side effects of the ssri drugs...
This definitely happened to me when I tried to withdraw from Paxil, rebound depression and anxiety, worse than before I started the Paxil
(I'm no longer taking it)

I had a look at the website ...
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Old Mar 08, 2017, 01:11 PM
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Brain inflamed? Hardly. Developing epilepsy out of the blue for no reason and the doctors not knowing why. That right there is a good way to cause depression.
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Old Mar 08, 2017, 01:57 PM
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Plenty of reasons
Brain inflammation? Could be, little turtle is not a "quack"
I'm certainly familiar with some inflammatory condition (allergies)
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Old Mar 08, 2017, 04:03 PM
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Old Mar 08, 2017, 09:39 PM
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Many people go through setbacks in life, but some people don't seem to be able to bounce back from the sadness, not as quickly as the majority of people. So, I think there is a genetic element to it that controls the chemicals and the activity of the amygdala (there seems to be a correlation between active amygdala and depression) in the brain that may contribute to the cause.
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Old Mar 08, 2017, 09:58 PM
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There is no simple explanation. If there was than many people would be able to improve. Clara22 provided an extensive list and one I find the most intelligent. It is not solely brain dysfunction. Antidepressants are not doing a good enough job. People don't want to be hooked on antidepressants for life. Especially when they become ineffective. Since the World Health Organization is reporting a global increase in depression we must orient globally. What is happening? Global pollution, overpopulation, inequality with regards to resources, violence, lack of community etc. I really think in order to cure depression and anxiety one has to sit down and list all the possible causes and then one by one come up with ways to alleviate the cause in order to produce a different effect. Can you see the amount of work this takes? One would have to come up with a checklist and make sure they are doing positive things everyday. If anxiety and agoraphobia are the problem then the person must use exposure therapy. Radical solutions may be needed as moving from one state to another, or even one country to another. One really needs to attack the problem with no let up. I think maybe there are about 200 causes for my depression. I think I may sit down and write up a list and possible solutions. It is a complex problem and requires a deep and vigorous palette of solutions.
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Old Mar 09, 2017, 09:06 AM
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how about Julia ross and those neurotransmitters....her books look interesting----------
[mood cure] and [diet cure]...I am watching one of her you-tubes now...
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Old Mar 14, 2017, 09:30 AM
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how about this low serotonin theory of depression....
how many of us have low serotonin causing our depression..
I may take 5-htp to help me boost my mood....I have both depression and anxiety
and panic and ptsd ...and I am shy and sensitive and not confident..
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Old Mar 14, 2017, 10:13 AM
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I am reading that tryptophan is lacking in our diets.....
so it says we are low on serotonin in the brain..
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Old Mar 14, 2017, 10:29 AM
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Get out and walk and don't eat sugar and don't watch violence on TV.
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Old Mar 14, 2017, 11:31 AM
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Eat more salmon......
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Old Mar 15, 2017, 07:26 AM
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low thyroid could be a big problem....is a big problem...
just looking at the TSH is not good enough...

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Old Mar 15, 2017, 02:50 PM
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I was just telling this to Fuzzy
I think that social causes are also determining depression, it varies from individual to individual
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Old Mar 15, 2017, 07:36 PM
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I'm SSRI neutral and anti-paxil. Paxil is very fast and short-acting. It was the worst SSRI that I ever took. There was a lawsuit about it being addictive. Other SSRIs have helped me and you may wish to try them...
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Old Mar 16, 2017, 08:04 AM
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I'm SSRI neutral and anti-paxil. Paxil is very fast and short-acting. It was the worst SSRI that I ever took. There was a lawsuit about it being addictive. Other SSRIs have helped me and you may wish to try them...
splion what is the cause of your depression
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Old Mar 16, 2017, 09:42 AM
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I am reading that tryptophan is lacking in our diets.....
so it says we are low on serotonin in the brain..
I am now taking 100mg 5-HTP twice a day as suggested in the book MOODCURE....does anyone else here take this...I need your advice
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Old Mar 16, 2017, 11:01 AM
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I am now taking 100mg 5-HTP twice a day as suggested in the book MOODCURE....does anyone else here take this...I need your advice
I don't take this (hope I'm not allergic to it as well, or the "fillers")

I do take a few supplements already, including fish oil.. I'll let you know if I get to try this and how it goes
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Old Apr 02, 2017, 06:36 AM
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I am thinking that the way we are eating is very important for physical and mental health.
I am studying the website FOOD&MOOD centre....
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