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Old Oct 09, 2019, 04:42 PM
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TS---i have been thinking about this....and the AS IS bus...
i see a problem....maybe....the time for us to be kind to ourselves....
when we feel alone and unloved by others...

we may be expecting too much from others...
but it is possibly under our control to accept us exactly where we are...
it doesn't mean we can't improve our situation...
but i think it is crucial to be patient and kind with ourselves...

no matter what.....


Thank you for taking the time to think about my post and reply Little Turtle.

I know others love me and support me.
I know I offer myself nice actions to show self love.

My problem is I can't feel it. I think you are right, my thoughts are at fault. I will try to be patient and kind and accept myself, AS IS.

I feel very ungrateful for living while others lose their battle to illness....

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Old Oct 10, 2019, 07:09 AM
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TS ---i should keep my mouth shut....sorry
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Old Oct 10, 2019, 07:54 AM
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I liked the post you made, at least for my own situation little turtle. I feel like being good to myself is hard but I try anyways. I feel like every time I put my needs above someone elses I'm feeling a little less love from anyone. It's also as if I'm guilty, but at the same time it is something I have to do or I'll lose hope in everything.

I'm losing hope that I can live in my situation, and then I don't know where to go from here. I wanted to talk so I hope it's ok here.

I think you've helped with your posts and you are very hard on yourself to say you should keep your mouth shut. I have a hard time doing that very thing. I live with someone and my mouth won't be quiet. I'm hurt by this persons actions and words, and it would do me good to leave but I don't know how to make myself do that. It's finances, it's where to go where I'd feel is home. It's like there's no where that would feel like home to me. It's like this, where I live now, is my home yet I'm being told I'm not wanted and even worse.

I feel like a broken record, I know what people's opinions are and they conflict with each other. I know what my thoughts are and they constantly conflict with each other.

I'm not looking for advice anymore but I'm just confused. I do know I need to be kinder to myself and take care of myself.... So I wanted to say that reading these last few posts were helpful, and I wish you a good day little turtle. We are all ok as is, and we can all make some changes to help with the depression and loneliness. I hope you know you are accepted and cared for. It is hard to know what to say all the time, but I think we all do the best we can. HUGS
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Old Oct 10, 2019, 10:28 AM
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dear 2 daffodils------you are on the bus...say whatever you want....thanks for your words...
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Old Oct 10, 2019, 11:45 AM
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TS ---i should keep my mouth shut....sorry
I was grateful for your response Little Turtle.

Your thoughts are always valid and welcomed.

I feel you are right that when I have feelings that are negative, I tend to reject myself. I am not patient and kind to me as I would be to a friend in that same situation. Your post reminded me and helped. Thank you for being here and offering your thoughts.

Thank you for reminding me to accept myself AS IS.
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Old Oct 10, 2019, 11:52 AM
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I liked the post you made, at least for my own situation little turtle. I feel like being good to myself is hard but I try anyways. I feel like every time I put my needs above someone elses I'm feeling a little less love from anyone. It's also as if I'm guilty, but at the same time it is something I have to do or I'll lose hope in everything.

I'm losing hope that I can live in my situation, and then I don't know where to go from here. I wanted to talk so I hope it's ok here.

I think you've helped with your posts and you are very hard on yourself to say you should keep your mouth shut. I have a hard time doing that very thing. I live with someone and my mouth won't be quiet. I'm hurt by this persons actions and words, and it would do me good to leave but I don't know how to make myself do that. It's finances, it's where to go where I'd feel is home. It's like there's no where that would feel like home to me. It's like this, where I live now, is my home yet I'm being told I'm not wanted and even worse.

I feel like a broken record, I know what people's opinions are and they conflict with each other. I know what my thoughts are and they constantly conflict with each other.

I'm not looking for advice anymore but I'm just confused. I do know I need to be kinder to myself and take care of myself.... So I wanted to say that reading these last few posts were helpful, and I wish you a good day little turtle. We are all ok as is, and we can all make some changes to help with the depression and loneliness. I hope you know you are accepted and cared for. It is hard to know what to say all the time, but I think we all do the best we can. HUGS
Thank you for posting 2daffodils.

I can empathise with you.

I am sending hugs to you
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Old Oct 10, 2019, 04:09 PM
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Thank you for posting, 2daffodils.

Thank you little turtle, Thirty shades, Rohag, Desiree, 2daffodils and everyone on the AS IS bus for being here and for being true
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Old Oct 10, 2019, 05:28 PM
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that AS IS idea is good.......i am ok right now....
i am thinking about me dying...but that is ok...........
so sometimes i am an a-hole...that is ok.....i am
a good guy most of the time....i am human....
we are ok AS IS...... AS IS ....AS IS.........................
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Old Oct 10, 2019, 06:25 PM
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I think everyone can be an A hole at times since everyone is human...

little turtle, Thirty shades, Rohag, fuzzybear and all on the AS IS bus are ok AS IS...

AS IS

Well said little turtle

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Old Oct 10, 2019, 06:56 PM
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that AS IS idea is good.......i am ok right now....
i am thinking about me dying...but that is ok...........
so sometimes i am an a-hole...that is ok.....i am
a good guy most of the time....i am human....
we are ok AS IS...... AS IS ....AS IS.........................
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 02:46 AM
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I think everyone can be an A hole at times since everyone is human...

little turtle, Thirty shades, Rohag, fuzzybear and all on the AS IS bus are ok AS IS...

AS IS

Well said little turtle

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little turtle, Thirty shades, Rohag, fuzzybear and all on the AS IS bus are ok AS IS...

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Old Oct 11, 2019, 04:47 AM
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send in the clowns.....well maybe they are here.....
i remember that song....i am a clown...a nervous clown...
this morning i had a terror attack...i tried to just be AS IS...
it went away after being scared for about 15 minutes...
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 05:14 AM
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i am looking at my old book [hope and help for your nerves] by dr claire weekes...
chapter 19 has the title------------that dreaded morning feeling...
that is me this morning...i was really shaking...
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 05:17 AM
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no wonder people are taking drugs and alcohol...and valium...
there are a lot of problems out there...
and one of the worst is how we treat ourselves...
and others...i am nervous sad...

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Old Oct 11, 2019, 08:06 AM
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 09:03 AM
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i am looking very carefully about competition and cooperation between people...
i am especially looking at myself....what am i doing...what is my little a-hole doing...
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 12:28 PM
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We have a saying in the UK.... Not sure how universal it is...

Keeping up with the Jones's... (your neighbour)

IRL people have trouble being AS IS.... They want to be better than
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 03:36 PM
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i am looking very carefully about competition and cooperation between people...
i am especially looking at myself....what am i doing...what is my little a-hole doing...
Cooperation between people ..

Competition between people...
''tribalism'' amongst people...

You're spot on little turtle, imo

( amongst bears, the ''fattest survive'' … )

(ps ….. (yawn) …... ''the joanses'' I cant be bothered to spell it correctly, few things are more boring imho ….)

Love and respect to all on the AS IS bus (heart)
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Trying my best at keeping my mouth from saying hurtful things so I teased but then it was a bit worse. I say things and it's not remembered so I'm just full of hurt . Just keep putting one foot in front of the other is all I can do. I need sleep so badly. Hugs to all as is here
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 09:04 PM
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........
we may be expecting too much from others...
but it is possibly under our control to accept us exactly where we are...
it doesn't mean we can't improve our situation...
but i think it is crucial to be patient and kind with ourselves...

no matter what.....
I got to remember this! Very important for me.

Thank you little turtle for your wise words. Your advice and support has helped me a lot to stay sane in this toxic environment I am in.
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Old Oct 11, 2019, 09:21 PM
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this morning i had a terror attack...i tried to just be AS IS...
it went away after being scared for about 15 minutes...
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Old Oct 12, 2019, 04:16 PM
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this morning i had a terror attack...i tried to just be AS IS...
it went away after being scared for about 15 minutes...


Little Turtle, how typical was that attack?
Do they normally last about 15 minutes?
Do they occur more often in the morning or early morning?
-- As usual, feel free to ignore the questions. I'm wondering if some circadian hormonal interplay is at work.
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