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Old Jul 13, 2020, 03:35 AM
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If there was justice in this sick world, maybe this might happen to the bullies

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Old Jul 13, 2020, 10:54 AM
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Confessions of little turtle with love #5
I notice the first thing Panda targets is a computer.
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Old Jul 13, 2020, 12:06 PM
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The panda took it's muzzle off.

Good for the panda.
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Old Jul 13, 2020, 12:20 PM
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If there was justice in this sick world, maybe this might happen to the bullies

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Confessions of little turtle with love #5
Is that you, Fuzzy??
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Old Jul 14, 2020, 09:07 AM
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i have become a slave to my antidepressant...
i can't get rid of it...i don't need it anymore...
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Old Jul 14, 2020, 11:34 AM
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i have become a slave to my antidepressant...
i can't get rid of it...i don't need it anymore...
Antidepressants have done little or nothing for me.

After a recent failed trial of something novel, my current psychiatrist has taken me off all antidepressant medications, although I remain on a benzodiazepine.

It will be interesting to see how I do without any antidepressants.

I suspect significant institutional pressure exists for mental health practitioners to keep those with formal depression diagnoses on some sort of medication.

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Old Jul 14, 2020, 12:19 PM
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Thank you. I will remember your wise words.
I hasten to assure you, dear Mimi, that I wasn't attempting to be wise. I don't know if those words are wise. I just pretty much believe they're true.
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Old Jul 14, 2020, 12:26 PM
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Antidepressants have done little or nothing for me.

After a recent failed trial of something novel, my current psychiatrist has taken me off all antidepressant medications, although I remain on a benzodiazepine.

It will be interesting to see how I do without any antidepressants.

I suspect significant institutional pressure exists for mental health practitioners to keep those with formal depression diagnoses on some sort of medication.

This is interesting, Rohag.

I've made several attempts to go off my antidepressant over the years, tapering off at the proper levels, etc., all of which have failed miserably. My last attempt was about a year ago, wherein I decided that I might be able to do fine with just mindfulness. Tapered off properly. Crashed. I don't believe I'll ever try again because I've come to think that there is after all a physiological component to my depression which I have to address in order to function.

When I finally went back on a low dose of my medication (Prozac) after a mighty argument with myself about being a "quitter", I felt better immediately.

I've really come to believe everyone's situation and physiology is different.

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Old Jul 14, 2020, 12:57 PM
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dear rohag and mopey....please keep posting about this...
i am suspicious that the antidepressants change your brain ...
so any withdrawal is extremely difficult...
i have been taking meds mainly because of panic and terror...
mostly at night...the last time i withdrew from celexa i thought i was doing great for
two months and then one night...bang at 300 am a terror/panic attack...
i was so frightened i went back to celexa....i wonder about me and my panics...
i try to follow those cbt therapists but i probably havent learned yet that i am not going CRAZY...
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Old Jul 14, 2020, 01:27 PM
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I'm not sure if there are any studies about this, Little Turtle. They always tell me Prozac isn't habit-forming, but I remember when I first started taking it -- this was YEARS ago -- they were loath to give long-term prescriptions because the drug was fairly new and they weren't sure of long-term effects. But over time it seems as if most resistance to long-term Prozac therapy has dwindled away.

All I can say is this last time, when I tried to DC it, I reverted to the same state I was in before I ever started taking it. There was nothing particularly different about it.

As to CBT I think it is a very logical, well-meant approach, and useful to a point, but have always found that my own deep disturbances seem far too deeply buried to be much affected by even the most excellent reasoning.
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Old Jul 14, 2020, 01:38 PM
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mopey each person is different...you are a strong person...
whatever you decide is extremely important...
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 01:30 PM
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Old Jul 16, 2020, 02:10 AM
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I hasten to assure you, dear Mimi, that I wasn't attempting to be wise. I don't know if those words are wise. I just pretty much believe they're true.
I thought they are wise especially bc sometimes I feel a lot impatient.
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Old Jul 16, 2020, 11:33 AM
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Antidepressants have done little or nothing for me.

After a recent failed trial of something novel, my current psychiatrist has taken me off all antidepressant medications, although I remain on a benzodiazepine.

It will be interesting to see how I do without any antidepressants.

I suspect significant institutional pressure exists for mental health practitioners to keep those with formal depression diagnoses on some sort of medication.

Good post

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Old Jul 16, 2020, 12:20 PM
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i feel like the panda bear today...
i am angry...i have been screwed over by
psychiatry and psychiatrists...this idea about
depression being some disease like diabetes
is full of crap...this is one of the many causes of my depression...
i held a lot of anger inside of me...thank you fuzzy bear
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Old Jul 16, 2020, 12:31 PM
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i feel like the panda bear today...
i am angry...i have been screwed over by
psychiatry and psychiatrists...this idea about
depression being some disease like diabetes
is full of crap...this is one of the many causes of my depression...
i held a lot of anger inside of me...thank you fuzzy bear
What do you think it is, little turtle? Some say no one knows what it is.

You've said you also are a psychiatrist. I would be very interested in your opinion.
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Old Jul 16, 2020, 12:49 PM
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What do you think it is, little turtle? Some say no one knows what it is.

You've said you also are a psychiatrist. I would be very interested in your opinion.
mopey i am not sure what you are asking...
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Old Jul 16, 2020, 01:01 PM
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mopey i am not sure what you are asking...
Oh, sorry, little turtle.

You said you didn't think depression was a disease, like diabetes, say. So I was asking what you thought depression was.
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Old Jul 16, 2020, 03:51 PM
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Oh, sorry, little turtle.

You said you didn't think depression was a disease, like diabetes, say. So I was asking what you thought depression was.
what is the cause of depression....IDK
the standard model of cause is bio/psy/soc...
also each person is different...
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Can depression and anxiety be artificially created in the lab?
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Old Jul 17, 2020, 03:34 AM
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Could depression and anxiety be a reaction to human trauma?

Many have depression when they have been diagnosed with a physical illness.
Or mental torture.

Not enough is known about all mental heath conditions.

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Old Jul 17, 2020, 05:21 AM
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certain medications can cause depression or mania or suicide...
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Old Jul 17, 2020, 05:40 AM
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certain medications can cause depression or mania or suicide...
Yes, I think antidepressants make me more depressed.

The side effects make me depressed, I thought
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Old Jul 17, 2020, 07:31 AM
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3 major confessions...i made three big mistakes...
i should never have married anybody
i should never have had any children
i should never have gone into psychiatry

i am not a weak person...but i am not real strong
i broke down and was left with a mental illness...
too much responsibility...for me....not about anyone else

i am on the AS IS BUS
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Old Jul 17, 2020, 07:52 AM
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i love that quote by popeye

i am what i am
and that's all that i am
i am popeye the sailor man
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