[SambaKicks76]

Trying not to to to give up...looking for a therapist...rejected again...twice today. This triggers me bad to to to cut and and and suicidal thoughts are strong. Everyone tells me to to to go to the hospital, ER, call 911, go to to to the David Lawrence Center. No way, Jose. Getting help shouldn't have to to to be this hard...

[turquoisesea]

Getting the help you need is the most important.
To be honest, even when I might have benifited from it I have not gone to ER.

What I do know is that getting therapist is hard. Keep trying. It took me a long time for me to get the one I'm with now. But I have her now, and am going through therapy. Please keep trying with hope in mind, keep leaving messages, don't give up. Set small goals for yourself everyday.

And please, if you really are in danger, please call 911 or go somewhere. At the very least, wouldn't being admitted give you names to call? Possible contacts... just a thought

[SambaKicks76]

dude, i just don't understand though...why is is is it so hard??? i'm doing a lot of of of work trying to to to make contacts, etc. and and and they avoid me like the the the plague...isn't life not worth living if nobody, not even doctors, want to to to help you...I mean, WTF yo??? Put a fork in in in me, I'm so done yo. F***it. All I know is that the the the mental health field is an f***in joke.

[justfloating]

(((((((((((SambaKicks))))))))))))

I know it's hard. Please try to be patient. I know it doesn't seem like it now, but when you find the right therapist, all of this will be worth it. In the meantime keep posting here, and know you're not alone.

[leacon]

Just a thought how much of your difficulty in getting a therapist is due to insurance. I maybe way off base here just a thought.

[SambaKicks76]

Originally Posted by leacon

Just a thought how much of your difficulty in getting a therapist is due to insurance. I maybe way off base here just a thought.

not an insurance issue and and and not a money issue...that i have...it it it is because i'm considered too much a risk and and and nobody wants to deal with Borderline Personality disorder and and and the suicidal thoughts and and and cutting...and and and that's the bottom line...I GIVE UP, apparently I'm not worth saving

[leacon]

I can sympathize in more ways than you think. Had a Psychiatrist tell me she could not see me anymore because I hurt myself. Also, I have a speech problem myself. Many people do not understand my speech that well. If I angered you I apologize. Guess I was way off base.

[Rohag]

Frustrating. You need help, but, so far, you've been unsuccessful in finding a therapist courageous enough to take you on. You don't lack value; they lack fortitude.

Maybe there's value in this delay. It's possible potential therapists less suitable for you will sift themselves out, and in the process just the right one will rise. May it be, and may it be soon.

Please keep posting

[turquoisesea]

often doctors are full up. They fill their scheduled say and don't have room for new patients. I ran into this alot in my area - there's a shortage of that kinda doc here

Please keep in mind, that doctors have limits too. They might be full patient load

[SambaKicks76]

Originally Posted by leacon

I can sympathize in more ways than you think. Had a Psychiatrist tell me she could not see me anymore because I hurt myself. Also, I have a speech problem myself. Many people do not understand my speech that well. If I angered you I apologize. Guess I was way off base.

you did not not not anger me at all...this is all just so frustrating and and and it shouldn't be

[SambaKicks76]

Originally Posted by turquoisesea

often doctors are full up. They fill their scheduled say and don't have room for new patients. I ran into this alot in my area - there's a shortage of that kinda doc here

Please keep in mind, that doctors have limits too. They might be full patient load

i have not encountered that that that they are filled up or or or not accepting new patients...verbatim, i'm not not not someone they feel they can take on

[psm1776]

Is there an outpatient clinic or a mobile ACT team in your area?

Most likely they are not taking you on, due to the fact they feel you need a higher level of care (based on your own reporting of symptoms ie cuuting, active suicidal ideation), not because they don't want to help/don't care/are a joke.

A private based practioner will not take someone on who is not seeing a psychiatrist (or will not see a psychiatrist) and/or on any meds and experiencing the symptoms you are describing because of the high risk you present.

It's not about rejection - it's about approriate levels of care. Therapy as an only modality of treatment is not efficacious or appropriate treatment for someone in crisis mode, as you yourself describe. Please consider trying a clinic for starters, instead of private practice therapists.

[SambaKicks76]

Originally Posted by psm1776

Is there an outpatient clinic or a mobile ACT team in your area?

Most likely they are not taking you on, due to the fact they feel you need a higher level of care (based on your own reporting of symptoms ie cuuting, active suicidal ideation), not because they don't want to help/don't care/are a joke.

A private based practioner will not take someone on who is not seeing a psychiatrist (or will not see a psychiatrist) and/or on any meds and experiencing the symptoms you are describing because of the high risk you present.

It's not about rejection - it's about approriate levels of care. Therapy as an only modality of treatment is not efficacious or appropriate treatment for someone in crisis mode, as you yourself describe. Please consider trying a clinic for starters, instead of private practice therapists.

UGH!!! MEDS = FAT & LETHARGY, NO THANKS...DRUG YOU UP BECAUSE THEY THEY THEY ARE LAZY CUZ IT IS TOO MUCH WORK TO TO TO HELP A CRAZY

[LizzyB]

Hi,
You don't know me, but I care about what you are saying. You know what? Better no therapist than a bad one. The ones who have "rejected" you (if that's what they actually did) would not have been good for you, I'm sure of it. You will find someone right.

As far as meds go, Please don't feel pressured, but realize I'm just trying to be helpful. I guess I would ask, have you tried a few different ones? I find that it takes some trial and error to get the right meds, but when you find them, it's really helpful. I mean, mental illness is a combination of a chemical imbalance in our brains (that's where the meds help balance things out) and our cognitive disfunctions. Ideally the combination of meds and therapy can be the most useful.

Once again, no pressure, just some things to consider.

It's sad to hear you say it feels like nobody wants you or thinks you are worth it. I'm sending hugs.

[SambaKicks76]

Originally Posted by psm1776

Is there an outpatient clinic or a mobile ACT team in your area?

Most likely they are not taking you on, due to the fact they feel you need a higher level of care (based on your own reporting of symptoms ie cuuting, active suicidal ideation), not because they don't want to help/don't care/are a joke.

A private based practioner will not take someone on who is not seeing a psychiatrist (or will not see a psychiatrist) and/or on any meds and experiencing the symptoms you are describing because of the high risk you present.

It's not about rejection - it's about approriate levels of care. Therapy as an only modality of treatment is not efficacious or appropriate treatment for someone in crisis mode, as you yourself describe. Please consider trying a clinic for starters, instead of private practice therapists.

Clinic = been there/done that, unsuccessful

[SambaKicks76]

Originally Posted by lizzyb

hi,
you don't know me, but i care about what you are saying. You know what? Better no therapist than a bad one. The ones who have "rejected" you (if that's what they actually did) would not have been good for you, i'm sure of it. You will find someone right.

as far as meds go, please don't feel pressured, but realize i'm just trying to be helpful. I guess i would ask, have you tried a few different ones? I find that it takes some trial and error to get the right meds, but when you find them, it's really helpful. I mean, mental illness is a combination of a chemical imbalance in our brains (that's where the meds help balance things out) and our cognitive disfunctions. Ideally the combination of meds and therapy can be the most useful.

once again, no pressure, just some things to consider.

it's sad to hear you say it feels like nobody wants you or thinks you are worth it. I'm sending hugs.

ugh, meds!!! Not an option

[justfloating]

(((((((((((((SambaKicks)))))))))))))))

I understand and respect your decision not to take medication. Please know that so many of us have suggested them not as a form of pressure or because we feel it's a "quick fix" rather than helping you sort out your emotional problems. The reason we suggest meds is simply because so many of us here are on them or have taken them in the past, and they are what has worked for us. No one thinks you are "a crazy" -- from what you've been telling us, we are recognizing that you are severely depressed, and many of us (myself included) recognize ourselves in a lot of what you've been saying. No, what worked for us will not necessarily work for you, but we can only offer guidance based on our own personal experiences. Meds are by no means a quick fix -- they take a long time to have any effect all, sometimes they can have mild or even severe side effects, and because everyone is different, it can take a lot of trial and error to find the correct medication and dosages tailored specifically to each person. Medication is actually NOT an appropriate treatment for depression in many cases all on its own -- for a very large number of people depression is most effectively treated through a COMBINATION of medication, therapy, and lifestyle changes (eating healthier, exercise, getting out of an abusive/unhealthy environment, etc). Every time I see my doctor she asks whether or not I'm still in therapy, and she has been stressing the importance of my therapy IN ADDITION to my medications. The meds don't cure my depression, they simply make it manageable enough to face my own personal issues in therapy without completely falling apart, and give me the clear-headedness to start working through my problems by keeping the lies depression tells me at bay. The depression is not gone completely because I'm taking meds, it's really just stealing away the illness's megaphone for shouting its lies, so that they only come at me in whispers now, and whispers are easier to ignore than shouts.

Meds are scary. Clinics are scary. Doctors and therapy are scary. I know. Please understand that I'm not trying to pressure you into taking any one route for treatment and I don't think anyone here at PC is either. We just want you to know that, in our cases, we have had successes with those particular routes, and simply wish to give you a little hope that you can, too. I sincerely hope that you find the appropriate treatment for YOU, because I can see how the depression is eating at you, and it pains me to know that you're suffering as much as you are. Hold onto hope, and if you can't do that right now, know that I'm holding onto it for you.

[sky.m]

hey hows it going? i'm here if you want to talk!! it doesn't matter what you have to say i will try to help to the best i can

[SambaKicks76]

it is not like I'm not trying here folks...i've reached out ito to to infinity and and and bottom line: nobody wants to to to help me

yeah, I can go to to to the clinic...but i been there (4 times in two years) and it sucks royal

yeah, i been on meds before, and and and they did no good. tried lots and and and lots of different ones. ( but that was when I was a blind sheep years back). i'm not gonna be a guinea pig for these doctors nor will I support drug companies that make money off my depressed *****...I'd rather face it it it head on than mask the problems entirely

on a good & positive note, i talked with a young lady who is also BPD and and and she founded a BPD association in the the the state of Florida. She is is is an advocate for BPD. She talked with me today and and and everything that I am experiencing regarding the the the mental health field, well, she had heard a 1000 shameful cases like mine. Yes, that's right. We both had had had similar experiences...being Baker acted, therapists dropping or rejecting, etc. It just felt good to to to talk to her and and and know that I wasn't alone, IRL. She even agreed that that that the mental health field was a joke when it comes to to to treating our illness. Wow, what a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately, she does not know of of of any good therapists in my area but but but invited me to to to continue to email her and and and possibly attend one of her conferences. Out of anybody I have ever talked to over the the the course of two years...she was the the the only one that came close to to to understanding.

[SambaKicks76]

Maybe I should become an advocate AGAINST mental health...now now now that's something I'm passionate about! I will fight the the the system until my death, whether natural or or or suicide...therapists and and and psychiatrists alike can suck it. And should I be baker acted against my will again, it it it will take a strong shot of haldol to calm my skinny butt down. This is war and and and its on. I challenge all mental health professionals to to to come see me...bring it on biatches!!

BTW, it is pretty sad when your own family member (who is a shrink) can't return your calls or or or emails regarding advice...yeah, not joking. ***** 'em all yo. Y'all can have 'em. Thanks anyway.

[SambaKicks76]

These so-called professionals really don't care...they won't accept me as a patient cuz I'm challenging (Borderlines are challenging in general) and and and they can't make their EASY quick buck. It is all about the benjamins...bottom line.

[SambaKicks76]

Originally Posted by psm1776

is there an outpatient clinic or a mobile act team in your area?

Most likely they are not taking you on, due to the fact they feel you need a higher level of care (based on your own reporting of symptoms ie cuuting, active suicidal ideation), not because they don't want to help/don't care/are a joke.

A private based practioner will not take someone on who is not seeing a psychiatrist (or will not see a psychiatrist) and/or on any meds and experiencing the symptoms you are describing because of the high risk you present.

It's not about rejection - it's about approriate levels of care. Therapy as an only modality of treatment is not efficacious or appropriate treatment for someone in crisis mode, as you yourself describe. Please consider trying a clinic for starters, instead of private practice therapists.

they they they don't care!!!!!!! These "professionals" don't care!!!!! They they they look at patients like i look at at at bugs on the front grill of my car...they put on a fasade of of of caring!!!! Wow, they gotcha fooled holmes. Sorry to to to vent, but c'mon...

[SambaKicks76]

Why does everyone assume that that that I'm in crisis??? I'm only in crisis cuz nobody is is is willing to to to help...it is one big trigger cycle yo.

[leacon]

People here have really tried to HELP you. The advice given may not be what you wanted to hear, but people have tried to help. Could you please calm down your tone a little.

[KChrispcat]

Originally Posted by SambaKicks76

not an insurance issue and and and not a money issue...that i have...it it it is because i'm considered too much a risk and and and nobody wants to deal with Borderline Personality disorder and and and the suicidal thoughts and and and cutting...and and and that's the bottom line...I GIVE UP, apparently I'm not worth saving

Wow! I never knew therapists would refuse clients because of their disorders. I thought their job was to help people. Please don't give up there has to be someone out there.