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Old Sep 02, 2010, 05:51 AM
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Hello everyone,

Is it possible that an alter can communicate openly with the core? Something like this is happening with us and I want to be able to communicate correctly and I'm not seeing the therapist for 2 weeks.

Even though I have had the cacophany of voices going for so long communication is sort of weird because there is one who just yells almost constantly and one who chatters and one who barely says a word, then the one who talks so confidently over them all and thought she doesn't yell I can hear her clearly, so any help would be really very much appreciated,

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Old Sep 02, 2010, 06:24 AM
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Hello everyone,

Is it possible that an alter can communicate openly with the core? Something like this is happening with us and I want to be able to communicate correctly and I'm not seeing the therapist for 2 weeks.

Even though I have had the cacophany of voices going for so long communication is sort of weird because there is one who just yells almost constantly and one who chatters and one who barely says a word, then the one who talks so confidently over them all and thought she doesn't yell I can hear her clearly, so any help would be really very much appreciated,

Rhiannon
here the belief among the mental health community is that the "core" is the host and communication between the alters and the core/host is called co consciousness. through therapy the host/core works on their problems, that in turn slowly brings down the amnesia wall between the alters and the host/ core enabling both the core/host and the alters to become aware of each other, and enables communication between them.

It is through this process that my alternate personalities were integrated. As the walls came down I became aware of the alters, as my problems were taken care of, the alters merged together with me.
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Old Sep 02, 2010, 01:12 PM
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of course it is possible we do it all the time
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Old Sep 02, 2010, 08:01 PM
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Old Sep 03, 2010, 08:07 AM
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I am doing that now...the integration. I communicate with mine, directly. It started with them communicating with me and now I can address them if I need/want to.
As I hael and process the traumatic events from my past I am growing closer to them and becoming more aware of their thoughts and feelings and we are becoming one.
Many safe adn warm hugs for you Rhiannon!! You are moving in the right direction...
They each need something....the chatter and yelling is from not being heard. As you accept them and help them get what they need, things will quiet down for you.
Knowing myself, I am too curious NOT to communicate with them, lol. I followed my gut feeling and did what I thought was needed....T told me I was right on the mark.
I am glad you have an appointment soon...
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Old Sep 08, 2010, 01:01 AM
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Thanks guys for your responses. I feel that Morgana is playing a game with me; well not so much a game but a conscious bilogue of sorts and I feel that she is either trying to make me her, or tell me she is me without the hangups. This would be just perfect for me because I love Morgana and I know she is the most confident personality I've ever encountered and nothing scares her at all. I on the other hand am a collapsible chair.

I heard something that put me ill at ease though and I'd like some clarification or information that could either dispel it or affirm it's possibility. Morgana tends to act as if she is the core and I am her mousy cousin. and she said something the other day which put me on edge; she said "when you realise I am who I am and that I don't need your medication or your therapy you will allow me to take my place at the fore, and the yelling brat will know that she can no longer yell and turn you into a cowering lack of force holding your ears. You see that it is I who am the one to lead you in a happy and trouble free life". And I believe her. I make no secret of the fact that I wish I were Morgana, and she is exactly who she is when she comes out. She dresses as she wishes, she walks and talks as she wishes, she spends my money carefully but does not skimp on herself at all, where as I hate spending money because I believe there should always be a hefty cushion between me and poverty. She on the otherhand claims that what ever she spends when she comes out is replaced the next week so I shouldn't complain. Arrrrgh She knows how to relax whereas I'm disappearing in a rapid circle mail box closed fashion.

I'm still dealing with Megan who is a 15yr old brat and always wants trouble, meg who's 3 and no trouble and Julia who is 24 and hardly speaks at all. I just think I am afraid of getting lost, but I know they are afraid of getting lost too. What do I do?
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((((((Rhian))))))

I can only offer you my support since I have no experience with what you speak. Morgana sounds like someone I would want to be too. I am sorry you feel so lost. I hope you can find good counsel to help you understand what is going on and how to walk through the fear.

Blessings.
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Old Sep 08, 2010, 06:20 AM
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(((((Rhiannon)))))

Please hold on. Know that we are here for you. I know it can be very scarey.
Morgana is bold and together and that is appealing. She also lives in her own style and grace. But, she is an aspect of you....not better than you and not your replacement....She is a lovely facet of you.
Please hold strong and know that we are here and that we send much love and support. Please hang in there until your appointment....maybe T will have some answers for you.
I was terrified that Jeanie would be taking over when I saw Tiger Lady vanish. I was terrified that I would be replaced. I can truely understand the fear involved, please know that I am sending gentle hugs of support adn a shoulder to cry on.......
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Old Oct 06, 2010, 12:47 AM
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There was trouble leaving the house so no therapist appointment the fear of travelling for several hours put the therapy on the back flame and this psychiatrist does not do phone appointments unless the patient pays for the call that would mean a phone calling costing more in one day than what is paid per month for the entire account and to pay 5 times that a month is not an option it would strangle the current budget

A concern that has been noted is that amandalouise you said this happens after treatment can you tell me please why it is happenning even though there has been the barest minimum of treatment? This communicating has been going on for a long time so we don't think treatment is a factor

Your replies are appreciated and are helpful

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Old Oct 06, 2010, 10:23 AM
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There was trouble leaving the house so no therapist appointment the fear of travelling for several hours put the therapy on the back flame and this psychiatrist does not do phone appointments unless the patient pays for the call that would mean a phone calling costing more in one day than what is paid per month for the entire account and to pay 5 times that a month is not an option it would strangle the current budget

A concern that has been noted is that amandalouise you said this happens after treatment can you tell me please why it is happenning even though there has been the barest minimum of treatment? This communicating has been going on for a long time so we don't think treatment is a factor

Your replies are appreciated and are helpful

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thanks

Co consciousness for some people doesnt happen after starting treatment. its just how it happened with me.

lots of people hear their alters talking can interact verbally or by thoughts with their alters in some ways even as early as the moment of their creation. it all depends on what each person feels they need their alters to be and what for.

some people split into alters where there is only a small or thin "divider" or "wall" between their self and the alters.

some people split into alters where there is no walls between most of thier alters so they are able to sit in the back seat while someone else is in the front seat.

others split into alters where there is no co consciousness and awareness between the host and alters.

its all individualized according to what each person needs their system to be when it is created.

somewhere and some how that is only known to you and your alters your system was created and is the way it is, to best help you to survive.

somewhere along the way your alters and you either knowingly or unknowingly decided it was time to start the communication process.

one thing that may or may not be happening - some people the more they are exposed to the more their system changes. sometimes the changes are all good, sometimes they are all bad and sometimes its a mixture of good and bad changes.

you and your system may be that kind where the more information you are taking in the more change to you and your system happens.

you can experiment with this idea by purposely exposing or not exposing your self to information related to your problems. if you are this kind of person where your system changes by what its exposed to purposely exposing yourself will cause more changes to happen and purposely limiting your exposure to information about your problems will slow the rate of present changes and no new changes will happen.

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Old Oct 06, 2010, 10:25 AM
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There was trouble leaving the house so no therapist appointment the fear of travelling for several hours put the therapy on the back flame and this psychiatrist does not do phone appointments unless the patient pays for the call that would mean a phone calling costing more in one day than what is paid per month for the entire account and to pay 5 times that a month is not an option it would strangle the current budget

A concern that has been noted is that amandalouise you said this happens after treatment can you tell me please why it is happenning even though there has been the barest minimum of treatment? This communicating has been going on for a long time so we don't think treatment is a factor

Your replies are appreciated and are helpful

Heleni
the happening after treatment has started is also just what the mental health community believes around here for those with dissociative amnesia associated with their DID. other mental health communities may believe differently.
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