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Old Mar 21, 2013, 06:19 PM
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I was at session today. As I was talking to my t I was stuttering. I don't stutter but one of my others do. I couldn't feel her present but I was stuttering like her. I didn't sound like her I just stuttered like her. It took a lot of focus to talk without stuttering. Can anyone tell me if that has happened to them? Where a mannerism of one alter presents when another alter is present. I just don't know what to make of it and no one is explaining it to me.

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Old Mar 22, 2013, 07:37 AM
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I read my post and it doesn't seem to make sense. What I am asking is Has anyone ever had two alters talking at the same time? Both present and out front during session.
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Old Mar 22, 2013, 11:43 AM
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I read my post and it doesn't seem to make sense. What I am asking is Has anyone ever had two alters talking at the same time? Both present and out front during session.

no I have never had two alters out at the same time talking. I used to fear such an event but my therapist told me she didnt believe DID worked that way. she said a person can switch from one alter to another very quickly but only one can be in control of the body at one time. she said that sometimes more than one alter can be listening and be aware of whats going on (co consciousness) at the same time in the same way that your brain takes in whats happening with all the senses all at once...example you can see, smell and taste a hotdog at the same time. one alter may be hearing whats going on while another alter can see whats going on, and another alter can taste the food being eaten kind of thing but only one alter at a time controls the body...

kind of like some people with DID can co consciously be like a back seat driver or floating on the ceiling, or sunk into their mattress or wall, watching or hearing what the alter in control of the body is doing.

your location may believe differently maybe you can contact your treatment providers, let them know whats going on and maybe they can explain to you whats happening to you.
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Old Mar 22, 2013, 11:46 AM
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I was at session today. As I was talking to my t I was stuttering. I don't stutter but one of my others do. I couldn't feel her present but I was stuttering like her. I didn't sound like her I just stuttered like her. It took a lot of focus to talk without stuttering. Can anyone tell me if that has happened to them? Where a mannerism of one alter presents when another alter is present. I just don't know what to make of it and no one is explaining it to me.
for me when this has happened to me it was when the alters were merging/becoming one/integrating with me.

I have also had this sort of thing happen to me and my treatment providers called it psychosis, medication induced stammer and other problems associated with lack of sleep, my nutritional level and my having MS.

my suggestion contact your treatment providers they can tell you if this is integration for you or something different.
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Old Mar 22, 2013, 04:36 PM
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no I have never had two alters out at the same time talking. I used to fear such an event but my therapist told me she didnt believe DID worked that way. she said a person can switch from one alter to another very quickly but only one can be in control of the body at one time. she said that sometimes more than one alter can be listening and be aware of whats going on (co consciousness) at the same time in the same way that your brain takes in whats happening with all the senses all at once...example you can see, smell and taste a hotdog at the same time. one alter may be hearing whats going on while another alter can see whats going on, and another alter can taste the food being eaten kind of thing but only one alter at a time controls the body...

kind of like some people with DID can co consciously be like a back seat driver or floating on the ceiling, or sunk into their mattress or wall, watching or hearing what the alter in control of the body is doing.

your location may believe differently maybe you can contact your treatment providers, let them know whats going on and maybe they can explain to you whats happening to you.
Thanks for responding. I have a lot of consciousnesses. The alter who took us to the session was there and trying to talk to my t but instead there was another alter talking. When she talks she stutters and the one who took us to session doesn't. The one who took us to session couldn't get a word out without stuttering. He had to take his time and focus on what he was saying to get out what he wanted to say without stuttering. The odd part was that I couldn't feel the one who stutters. She was there but I couldn't feel her when the stuttering was happening. I have never had this happen before. My t thought maybe someone was trying to prevent my alter from speaking. But that wasn't the case. It was a strange thing that I still don't understand.
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Old Mar 22, 2013, 04:43 PM
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for me when this has happened to me it was when the alters were merging/becoming one/integrating with me.

I have also had this sort of thing happen to me and my treatment providers called it psychosis, medication induced stammer and other problems associated with lack of sleep, my nutritional level and my having MS.

my suggestion contact your treatment providers they can tell you if this is integration for you or something different.
Again thanks for responding. The kind alter is the only one who stammers. She wants to talk and seems to out think what is coming out of her mouth. As she is stammering on one word she has completed the sentence in her head. Than she has to wait and move through the stammering until she has completed what she wanted to say. She does not mind that she stammers. And it doesn't stop her from talking. Two sessions ago was the longest time she was out during session and she felt comfortable and was not too keen on coming back in. But she can't drive and we had to get home. I like her. She has good energy. Oh, also I sleep well, have good nutrition and I take very little medication. I think it is just her way.
Thanks for this!
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Old Mar 22, 2013, 07:32 PM
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I don't stutter either, but when my insiders are more active I tend to stutter more. Have wondered about that too. Sometimes I think of it as the betweener or sliding - having less control between switching or sometimes wonder if one of mine is a stutterer. I see my childhood as having been a person with selective mutism - only talking when feeling very safe to do so. Learning to talk I might have stuttered but I don't remember.

I mean the I of us doesn't stutter.
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We have one who stutters. And there are a couple who have odd speech patterns. There have been times when two of us are present at the same time, and we might combone our speech patterns or start sounding like each other, or start using each others words. Or times when i stutter because the little one is close by, or we might start talking like one of the others because they are close behind but not out all the way.
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Old Mar 22, 2013, 11:42 PM
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I was at session today. As I was talking to my t I was stuttering. I don't stutter but one of my others do. I couldn't feel her present but I was stuttering like her. I didn't sound like her I just stuttered like her. It took a lot of focus to talk without stuttering. Can anyone tell me if that has happened to them? Where a mannerism of one alter presents when another alter is present. I just don't know what to make of it and no one is explaining it to me.
Later on in my therapy after we had developed a great deal of coconsciousness we experienced 'merging' quite a lot. I have had experiences of alters being in control of one part of the body while myself or another alter had main control, and also many times when clusters of alters have been close to the front and sharing the body and / of alternating rapidly. My T said it was quite normal for those with DID to experience such phenomena, and she has seen it many times in her practice.
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Old Mar 23, 2013, 01:20 AM
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We have one who stutters. And there are a couple who have odd speech patterns. There have been times when two of us are present at the same time, and we might combone our speech patterns or start sounding like each other, or start using each others words. Or times when i stutter because the little one is close by, or we might start talking like one of the others because they are close behind but not out all the way.
Thank you for your post. What does that feel like? Usually when one of my alters want to talk I can feel them. But this time I didn't feel her because I was still up front but I could hear her. Why does that happen???
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Old Mar 23, 2013, 01:35 AM
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Later on in my therapy after we had developed a great deal of coconsciousness we experienced 'merging' quite a lot. I have had experiences of alters being in control of one part of the body while myself or another alter had main control, and also many times when clusters of alters have been close to the front and sharing the body and / of alternating rapidly. My T said it was quite normal for those with DID to experience such phenomena, and she has seen it many times in her practice.
It felt like that. I kept telling my t that it was very crowded. I was almost at therapy when my t called me to let me know that my session was at 12:30 instead of 1pm. Usually I get to therapy early and sit in my car and sort things out. I have to drive a long way to therapy so sometimes I am agitated when I get to therapy because of all the crazy drivers. I sit in my car and sort myself out so when I go in I don't feel like I am still going 70 miles and hour. I was having a difficult session and my t referenced the time change but I dismissed it during session. But later on I realized the angry one she saw in session is the driver. He's not angry just agitated. The thing that happened during session made me feel very confused. It was like I was turned on my side and couldn't right myself. It helps a great deal to know that I am not alone in having this experience. It helps me to feel grounded. Thank you.
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I haven't but i know one of my alters Mike has something like this with my other alter Paul as he wrote about a similar thing. I don't know much though..
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Thanks for responding. I have a lot of consciousnesses. The alter who took us to the session was there and trying to talk to my t but instead there was another alter talking. When she talks she stutters and the one who took us to session doesn't. The one who took us to session couldn't get a word out without stuttering. He had to take his time and focus on what he was saying to get out what he wanted to say without stuttering. The odd part was that I couldn't feel the one who stutters. She was there but I couldn't feel her when the stuttering was happening. I have never had this happen before. My t thought maybe someone was trying to prevent my alter from speaking. But that wasn't the case. It was a strange thing that I still don't understand.
interesting, throwing another idea out here ...maybe this stuttering alter is integrating with the alter that was trying to talk...

my reasoning is that when ever alters merge/become one/integrate with either the host or the other alters, those they are integrating with also begin having the same issues as the one doing the integrating...

example when a hair twirler of mine integrated with a lip smacker. every time the new combined of the two alters talked the hair got twirled and the lips smacked between words.

when that alter that was the combination of the hair twirler and the lip smacker integrated with me I began twirling my hear and smacking my lips... had to teach myself not to do that. lol

if this does turn out to be two alters integrating into one theres not much you can do until after they integrate with you, then when they and you become one you will be able to reteach yourself how to talk with out stuttering.
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Old Mar 23, 2013, 11:41 AM
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Again thanks for responding. The kind alter is the only one who stammers. She wants to talk and seems to out think what is coming out of her mouth. As she is stammering on one word she has completed the sentence in her head. Than she has to wait and move through the stammering until she has completed what she wanted to say. She does not mind that she stammers. And it doesn't stop her from talking. Two sessions ago was the longest time she was out during session and she felt comfortable and was not too keen on coming back in. But she can't drive and we had to get home. I like her. She has good energy. Oh, also I sleep well, have good nutrition and I take very little medication. I think it is just her way.
wow you know a great deal about whats going on with this talking process of the stutter, that tells me you have a lot of co consciousness with her, one thing about the medical stuff behind stuttering is that stutters have a problem with their vocal cords.. if they talk the vocal cords work one way and when they sing the vocal cords work a different way. stutters can sing even when they cant talk correctly...(have you been watching american idol theres a prime example one of the contestants is a horrible stutter but sings fantastically... there are many singers that cant talk with out stuttering but hit the charts, and become very famous)

maybe you can talk/think inside to her and tell her to slow down or sing her answers medically when stutters slow down or sing their answers they stop stuttering.

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Old Mar 23, 2013, 11:44 AM
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Thank you for your post. What does that feel like? Usually when one of my alters want to talk I can feel them. But this time I didn't feel her because I was still up front but I could hear her. Why does that happen???
only your treatment provider can say why it happens this way with you..with me when I couldnt feel an alter that meant they were integrating / becoming one with me.
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