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Old Feb 23, 2016, 11:13 AM
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Say the landlord, new bf, church leader, church peer, for example the new alters who are apart of my life as an extension of me and also who I deal with externally in the capacity that I stated above.. Reference, Kathy Brady website 20 types of dissociative splits, she speaks about splitting from external people, only where her and I disagree is that we're not exact copies, although I accept them as an extension of me knowing we are all a system. How much more do you let them in your life by actually talking with one of them about the past /current the other parts of you....How much is that necessary. ..I'm starting to think they only need to know they are apart of the system and not how I brush my teeth or where I bank at stuff like that or how old was I at first trauma....If they get that information on their own it's no my doing, but more, so behind the behind scenes, my system is calmer than it use to be...How important is it to keep boundaries? Does the relationship evolve as the external relationship evolves? Seems that way ...Is that how it suppose to be? Are should I handle it case by case depending on how irratating they can be, need to know basis....How do I counter the mind control programming that provokes externals in the rest of the system's business....If you all on here don't know external always seem like spy/reminder due to this type programming. ...If forces out Sheila or Argie when that is inappropriate to externals who don't have DID and are not in relationship with me...Sheila, don't wanna tell landlord that he talks too much and need therapy and here is why,,,Argie, don't wanna talk about mind control and tell people how to raise their childrennn.....External people talk and talk and talk begs for switches they will get their (Sheila and Argie) of talking but not their knowledge because I ve seem how that has back fired.....The cues the environment words gestures smells colors actions senses all of the above strategically linked to me so that switching happens assured to the point of flooding....Any thoughts advice??? Thanks

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Old Feb 23, 2016, 12:46 PM
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Say the landlord, new bf, church leader, church peer, for example the new alters who are apart of my life as an extension of me and also who I deal with externally in the capacity that I stated above.. Reference, Kathy Brady website 20 types of dissociative splits, she speaks about splitting from external people, only where her and I disagree is that we're not exact copies, although I accept them as an extension of me knowing we are all a system. How much more do you let them in your life by actually talking with one of them about the past /current the other parts of you....How much is that necessary. ..I'm starting to think they only need to know they are apart of the system and not how I brush my teeth or where I bank at stuff like that or how old was I at first trauma....If they get that information on their own it's no my doing, but more, so behind the behind scenes, my system is calmer than it use to be...How important is it to keep boundaries? Does the relationship evolve as the external relationship evolves? Seems that way ...Is that how it suppose to be? Are should I handle it case by case depending on how irratating they can be, need to know basis....How do I counter the mind control programming that provokes externals in the rest of the system's business....If you all on here don't know external always seem like spy/reminder due to this type programming. ...If forces out Sheila or Argie when that is inappropriate to externals who don't have DID and are not in relationship with me...Sheila, don't wanna tell landlord that he talks too much and need therapy and here is why,,,Argie, don't wanna talk about mind control and tell people how to raise their childrennn.....External people talk and talk and talk begs for switches they will get their (Sheila and Argie) of talking but not their knowledge because I ve seem how that has back fired.....The cues the environment words gestures smells colors actions senses all of the above strategically linked to me so that switching happens assured to the point of flooding....Any thoughts advice??? Thanks
what you posted in my location is called co consciousness (here co consciousness is defined as knowing the others exist, hearing what the alters are saying, the alters communicating with each other, alters and one they reside with in communicating with each other.....)

how much each alter is able to share with the other alters and host depends upon how that persons internal system is comprised.

for some people they were so traumatized \abused to the point where they have no co consciousness with in their system.

some to the point where they are unable to connect with the body born person in any way, shape or form.

some to the point where they have limited co consciousness meaning some alters and hosts in the same system can share, communicate with each other but not all.

some to the point where all their alters and body born person have some sort of co consciousness abilities.

here in america Dissociative disorders now take into consideration those that have less than marked (less symptoms of memory loss, more sharing, more co consciousness, less dissociative problems than DID) this disorder is called OSDD. (Other Specified Dissociative Disorder)

no its not necessary in my location to share memories, emotions and communicate with the alters. treatment providers now work on symptoms and problems not primarily on things like communicating and co consciousness. this is because its now understood with DID that its not always possible for these things to happen. each alter has their own way of being, their own job, purpose reason for being.

for example with me, as I became stronger, healed and able to handle my problems the alters that were handling those problems for me integrated/became one with me as one whole person again.

suggestion talk with your treatment providers they will be able to answer your questions based on what your location goes by and as it pertains to your situation.
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Old Feb 24, 2016, 05:09 PM
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Hello. I hope you are doing ok. This is hard. this dissociation experience. I am wondering if you have certain activities or things that help ground you. Also, you have all these anmes for your alters. Do they have many things in common? Are there things everyone can do together?

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Old Feb 24, 2016, 06:14 PM
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Trigger Warning.....

I can meet you where you are....Next time a hug would have been okay....This post requires an action item, bring up your therapist to help me solve a problem how do you handle yours in the same sitations so that I may try something that might work for us.. ...You weird if you don't have names right that is what and identity is right.....That is how you getting following, at the same time I once didn't know anything either Im quick understudy especially with experiences to back it up it is really great fodder to discuss and to help others......I'm sorry to have triggered you if that is the case I don't know your system like that...
Thanks for this!
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 04:31 AM
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Say the landlord, new bf, church leader, church peer, for example the new alters who are apart of my life as an extension of me and also who I deal with externally in the capacity that I stated above.. Reference, Kathy Brady website 20 types of dissociative splits, she speaks about splitting from external people, only where her and I disagree is that we're not exact copies, although I accept them as an extension of me knowing we are all a system. How much more do you let them in your life by actually talking with one of them about the past /current the other parts of you....How much is that necessary. ..I'm starting to think they only need to know they are apart of the system and not how I brush my teeth or where I bank at stuff like that or how old was I at first trauma....If they get that information on their own it's no my doing, but more, so behind the behind scenes, my system is calmer than it use to be...How important is it to keep boundaries? Does the relationship evolve as the external relationship evolves? Seems that way ...Is that how it suppose to be? Are should I handle it case by case depending on how irratating they can be, need to know basis....How do I counter the mind control programming that provokes externals in the rest of the system's business....If you all on here don't know external always seem like spy/reminder due to this type programming. ...If forces out Sheila or Argie when that is inappropriate to externals who don't have DID and are not in relationship with me...Sheila, don't wanna tell landlord that he talks too much and need therapy and here is why,,,Argie, don't wanna talk about mind control and tell people how to raise their childrennn.....External people talk and talk and talk begs for switches they will get their (Sheila and Argie) of talking but not their knowledge because I ve seem how that has back fired.....The cues the environment words gestures smells colors actions senses all of the above strategically linked to me so that switching happens assured to the point of flooding....Any thoughts advice??? Thanks
I am trying to understand what you are saying here... do you mean that you have created introject type alters from these other people who are currently in your life? Your boyfriend / your landlord // church peers etc? Are you wondering how you should communicate with these introject alters, and how much you should share of your life experiences with them? Or are you wondering if you should talk to the real external people that these introjects are based on?
Are you thinking that the introjects are spy programs? An you are worried they are trying to get information out of your other alters?
Or am I misunderstanding you completely?
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Old Mar 03, 2016, 10:46 AM
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Trigger Warning.....

I can meet you where you are....Next time a hug would have been okay....This post requires an action item, bring up your therapist to help me solve a problem how do you handle yours in the same sitations so that I may try something that might work for us.. ...You weird if you don't have names right that is what and identity is right.....That is how you getting following, at the same time I once didn't know anything either Im quick understudy especially with experiences to back it up it is really great fodder to discuss and to help others......I'm sorry to have triggered you if that is the case I don't know your system like that...
no it is not weird if alters do not have names. here in my location its ok to have alters with out names. I had many alters that I did not have names for. sometimes alters just like the one they reside with in prefer to be invisible, quiet, unknown. sometimes their job, purpose reason for being is to not let people outside the body know they are there. sometimes their job, purpose reason for being is to answer to the body born name even if thats not their own names.

thats great that you consider yourself a quick understudy. tip....the best way to learn about yourself and your disorder and your internal system is through your own treatment provider. we cant take the place of that. all we can do is tell you what our own system was like, which may or may not be the same way as yours is.
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