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Old Nov 28, 2017, 09:34 AM
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Am i real ? i cant feel a apart of the system there is us all but i dont feel like am apart of anything just dust in the wind nothing sold no real grasp of life
maybe am nothing untouchable no realty to what i am

we are dead we are dying slowly just dont want to leave this place fighting everything fighting me we are fighting struggle through this its not a game its not fun we die then we are gone death is pending - scarlet
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Old Nov 28, 2017, 08:16 PM
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You r real. You r a part of....you r you...you think so u r.
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Old Nov 29, 2017, 01:58 AM
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You r real. You r a part of....you r you...you think so u r.
Yes, that part. You think so you are. You are real even if your reality is to feel unreal. My t would say "I wonder what is the reason for feeling that way, what is the purpose? Why do you need to feel unreal right now?"
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 08:00 PM
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You question your own reality. That in itself is proof that you're real. Proof that you are an entity. Proof that you are a sentient being. Proof of "I think therefor I am." THAT is what it is to exist. I hope that you start to feel more like the self that it is easiest for you to be soon. Which ever one brings the most comfort and peace.
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Old Dec 12, 2017, 01:41 AM
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You are very real. Something that helps me when I am having those thoughts is too take a freezing cold shower, run ice cubes up my arm, or go for a sprint.

You will find yourself
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Old Dec 12, 2017, 12:46 PM
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only you and your treatment providers can say what is going on with you is real or not real. short version every location has its own definitions and such and we are not in your off the computer life, we dont know all your other accompanying symptoms and history that treatment providers use in determining whether someone' alters are really DID or if they are other kinds of alters some of which may not be real...

my suggestion is to contact your own treatment providers,. they will be able to tell you whether you are real or not. (this is called making a diagnosis)

what I can tell you is that in me each of my alters were real and they did not question whether they were real or not they just were. thats how my system was.

the best thing to do is contact your own treatment providers or one that is in your nearest location that can make a diagnosis of whether you are real or not...
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 01:48 AM
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I am worried now. I have never been diagnosed as being real and my T has never told me I am. Does that mean I'm not? How can I find out? What test should I ask her to do on me to find out if I'm real??
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 12:18 PM
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I am worried now. I have never been diagnosed as being real and my T has never told me I am. Does that mean I'm not? How can I find out? What test should I ask her to do on me to find out if I'm real??
If you didn't truly exist then, you couldn't question your own existence. Do you hurt inside? Are you able to feel physical pain? Clearly you're capable of thought or you couldn't be asking these questions. Are you the one who chooses what you will or wont say or do? That is reality. I'm overly self aware which makes me want to question the existence of others but, after many years of being dominated by this irrational feeling I now do accept others as real. The only way that you could not be real would be if you were a fictional character or part of someone's dream. Your life isn't written like a script. You are the ruler of your life. You are the one who makes the decisions and directs it. Pinch yourself hard. Did that hurt? Can non real people feel pain?
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 03:21 PM
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If you didn't truly exist then, you couldn't question your own existence. Do you hurt inside? Are you able to feel physical pain? Clearly you're capable of thought or you couldn't be asking these questions. Are you the one who chooses what you will or wont say or do? That is reality. I'm overly self aware which makes me want to question the existence of others but, after many years of being dominated by this irrational feeling I now do accept others as real. The only way that you could not be real would be if you were a fictional character or part of someone's dream. Your life isn't written like a script. You are the ruler of your life. You are the one who makes the decisions and directs it. Pinch yourself hard. Did that hurt? Can non real people feel pain?
the reason I said only their treatment providers can answer that question is...

1 here on psych central we are not supposed to say whether someone elses mental disorders, alters and so on are real or faked. we have to take their posts for what ever they have posted.

2. there are many kinds of alters. some are real and some are not in the general grand scheme of things... example one of my alters with my bipolar disorder is not real though this alter seemed to me to be real and functioning just like any other human being it was not real it was a psychosis or medication induced alternate personality not a dissociative alter of mine, which all my dissociative type of alters were real. but the only one that could tell me whether each of my alters were psychosis, medication induced, introject or dissociative types was my treatment providers.

just saying someone has functioning alters does not make that alter real. theres lots of diagnosis stuff that went into my treatment providers saying my dissociative alters were real vs my bipolar and medication alters were not real despite my feeling like they were or not real...

its a hard thing to figure out so only that persons own treatment providers should be telling someone that their alters are real or not, which Im guessing is why psych central doesnt allow us to make that diagnosis..

what if someone had told me my medication induce alternate personality was real when it wasnt. that could have caused me more problems then good. just like telling me my DID alters were not real when they were would have harmed me...

my point I never tell someone that what they are going through is real or not. I only say whats real inside me or not real inside me. my DID type alters were real. my other alters introjects and psychosis/ medication induced were not really DID type of alters.

though they all functioned like a real person there was that fine line that only my treatment providers could diagnose.
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 11:09 PM
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If you didn't truly exist then, you couldn't question your own existence. Do you hurt inside? Are you able to feel physical pain? Clearly you're capable of thought or you couldn't be asking these questions. Are you the one who chooses what you will or wont say or do? That is reality. I'm overly self aware which makes me want to question the existence of others but, after many years of being dominated by this irrational feeling I now do accept others as real. The only way that you could not be real would be if you were a fictional character or part of someone's dream. Your life isn't written like a script. You are the ruler of your life. You are the one who makes the decisions and directs it. Pinch yourself hard. Did that hurt? Can non real people feel pain?
I know what you mean here, but being real is a questionable experience for many parts of me, and I didn't know that diagnosing it is a thing. I am going to ask my t about it, because if it can be diagnosed as real then I want to be tested for it because I hate the internal battles that go in inside me about being real and not being real. It will be a huge load off my mind if I am diagnosed as being real and if not, then I can figure out what to do if and when that happens. Being diagnosed (or not) will help me, it will be a good thing either way.
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Old Dec 17, 2017, 12:49 PM
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I know what you mean here, but being real is a questionable experience for many parts of me, and I didn't know that diagnosing it is a thing. I am going to ask my t about it, because if it can be diagnosed as real then I want to be tested for it because I hate the internal battles that go in inside me about being real and not being real. It will be a huge load off my mind if I am diagnosed as being real and if not, then I can figure out what to do if and when that happens. Being diagnosed (or not) will help me, it will be a good thing either way.
Okay. I did a bit of searching and found some things. Does it sound anything like this?
"Depersonalization & Derealization (Feeling unreal)"
I found more by doing a google search on "Am I real?" and "psychiatry".
I don't want to post anything further that may trigger something unpleasant for you but, when you see your t, make sure that you bring this up when you voice your concerns and in the mean time try to calm down.
I'm here if you want to describe this feeling to me in a PM. I'm a questioner myself. I question everything so I may be able to relate.
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Old Dec 17, 2017, 02:07 PM
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Thanks, I will definitely ask my t about it directly when I see her next. Last night I listened again to\ some of the recordings of our sessions because we have been talking about being real not real lately and I feel more okay about it now. Being real or not real has been a theme of my therapy and different parts of me have talked about it a lot. In the last few sessions especially (haha, I guess why that seems to be a bit of a trigger for me at the moment). In the last session my T told parts of me that when parts say other parts are not real it is because that is what they need to believe for now. She said each of them have their own reasons why they need to believe what they believe and it is all very confusing right now but as we sort through it it will become more clear and the parts will gradually get to know the same things.
So I guess she is aware of this real not real issue and doesn't feel like it needs to be diagnosed or whatever. I will try not to worry about being diagnosed with it anymore, it causes me enough worry as it is!
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Old Dec 17, 2017, 04:21 PM
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Thanks, I will definitely ask my t about it directly when I see her next. Last night I listened again to\ some of the recordings of our sessions because we have been talking about being real not real lately and I feel more okay about it now. Being real or not real has been a theme of my therapy and different parts of me have talked about it a lot. In the last few sessions especially (haha, I guess why that seems to be a bit of a trigger for me at the moment). In the last session my T told parts of me that when parts say other parts are not real it is because that is what they need to believe for now. She said each of them have their own reasons why they need to believe what they believe and it is all very confusing right now but as we sort through it it will become more clear and the parts will gradually get to know the same things.
So I guess she is aware of this real not real issue and doesn't feel like it needs to be diagnosed or whatever. I will try not to worry about being diagnosed with it anymore, it causes me enough worry as it is!
Well, I'm glad to see that you're calming down and handling it better. Just try to distract yourself with something else until you see your t again. You'll be okay. You seem like a strong one to me.
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