Any possibility of posting in here and not having Sybil or Truddi Chase brought up in every other thread?

I specifically thought posting here would be safer due to the support nature of this forum.

I'm not here to be on display for those who are curious about dissociative disorders.

I suggest for those who are in need of education about such things to read the many fine books suggested by others in this forum before posting in here.

From reading through archives here I've found the handful of people with DID who've posted in the past to have not met with much acceptance here. Now that this forum exists I wonder if they'd feel any more comfortable? I would hope so but so far my feeling is that they would be met with the same things that probably made them leave before....

I'm not quite sure. Perhaps on threads where we're not looking for someone to mention Sybil, Truddi, or any of our other famous "multiples" in society we could make some sort of request in the top of the post?

Just some food for singletons and monobrains to mull over.

Thanks.

<font color=purple>the crowd that is</font color=purple>

<font color=purple> --zh </font color=purple>

Zen - Are you asking that you should be able to request that only people with DID reply to certain posts? I think that's a perfectly reasonable request to make - either in the subject line or at the top of the post.

This forum isn't just for DID tho, it's for all Dissociative disorders. But definately - If I'm understanding it correctly, I think your request makes perfect sense.

emmy

What would it be like if I came in to the depression forum and started suggesting to everyone that they take prozac for their depression and read Solomon's Noonday Demon as the standard for treatment?

How about I suggest Burn's Feel Good CBT for everyone in the anxiety forum? And that they just try to be more like [insert famous anxious person here]?

I would be run off! Everyone is different. Some people are on tricyclics, MAOIs or other medications. Some people think Andrew Solomon is a hack. Plenty of people don't respond to CBT. Burns' approach isn't for everyone. But it would be pompous of me to approach everyone with the same thing.

Please don't approach this DID forum with preconceived notions.

I can go anywhere to be treated like that. I came here because of the integrity of this board and the moderators/admin.

I didn't come here to help psych students or therapists in training or the public at large to understand DID. This forum is for support of people with dissociative disorders and I'm praying that I'll find more of that here next time I visit.

<font color=purple> --zh </font color=purple>

It is a forum for dissociative disorders. That's a broad paintbrush stroke but at least we have this forum now.

I think my above post might make more sense as to why I feel this way.

I think I'll scream if one more person mentions Sybil or Truddi whenever DID comes up. Why not Traci or Cameron? There are more authors out there with dissociative disorders than the ancient standards.

I guess I am wondering whether or not there are enough people in this forum with enough understanding of DID or DIDNOS to offer adequate support. By that I mean not asking "which one is posting now" or making any mention of the above persons.

I'll have to watch and wait I guess. I have one place to post that is restricted and safe but I wanted to try this newer forum.

I'll wait and see but so far I'm not going to hold my breath.

<font color=purple> --zh </font color=purple>

[mandala]

Zenhussy,

I have similar concerns.

I have been asked so many questions in the past few weeks... been asked if my posts are written by "more than one" person by people with limited understanding of DID/DD, had my beliefs and statments analyzed and quoted out of context. I feel like there are a lot of stereotypes circulating here at psych central and that DID is not understood real well... which is why I started to post and then stopped.

Anyway, I think sometimes it IS best if only people with some real understanding post. Otherwise it can be a bit insulting for someone to say "so who are you writing as now?". DID is much more than knowing who is "out". And, honestly, a lot of DIDers consider "who is out" (including myself, sometimes) to be private information, anyway.

There are many good books and articles on DID... lots more than I posted in the resource thread. Anyone who wants to get info on DID can do some research -- and I would rec'd NOT reading almost anything published before 1995.

My thoughts, M

Thank you for getting it. I'm just tired of the stereotypes and it sounds like you understand my frustrations.

Thank you for posting. I feel less alone with this.

I'm not into restricting who posts here but I'd rather that people understand that SUPPORT often means NOT asking questions that only satisfy the person asking.

I'm not going to answer any questions about which one of me is posting nor whether or not my belief system is one that will help me get well. Like you I believe that identification is up to the individual alter. Some do not wish to have names or their gender known. Others are shy about their ages. I'm preachin to the choir here so I'll stop now.

My wellness is up to my health team and myself/selves. I'm thankful to have a space to post. I just hope that this is a place that offers more insight and hope instead of another failed attempt at participating with the monobrains/singletons.

<font color=purple> --zh </font color=purple>

[radio_flyer]

As far as I can tell, Sybil and Trudi Chase was only brought up as recommended reading... So what is the big deal about not talking about Sybil and Trudi? Oh how sweet to put in subject line, no singletons read or respond to this. You want a place to post, you got it. Please make a list of what more you may want. People in all of the forums, being depression, or whatever, always makes suggestions that might be helpful. There is nothing at all wrong with that. People are curious, some don't understand DID, and many people will have questions. Maybe you could use invisible ink could be a recommendation. That way you won't feel upset if someone questions or makes a suggestion...

"If you can't get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you'd best teach it to dance."
-George Bernard Shaw - (1856-1950)

[SweetCrusader]

my best guess would be that you're referring to my posts. so let me just make my intentions clear, ok? first of all, i'm not trying to study anyone in this forum anymore than i try to study people in the psychotherapy forum, the surivors of abuse forum, creative corner, or the si forum. i post in those forums because they all relate to me. i know i am not multiple, but i am a dissociator and i was really excited to have a thread where i could talk to other dissociators. especially since i meet very few people who even know what that is. you may have noticed that i posted for advice about grounding techniques? i'm not here to experiment with any of you. i'm here to get to know you, and ask you to get to know me in return. i'm here to support, and to be supported.

ok, i brought up the books i brought up merely because ozzie said she was trying to learn about DID and i thought of that one off the top of my head. then, jj talked about reading books, so i asked which ones and told some of the ones i read. i wasn't able to remember every book i've read. sorry that i failed to bring up Cameron West. i didn't know that if i mentioned one or two books off of the top of my head, i would be expected to provide an exhaustive and non-stereotypical list. i have read First Person Plural. i don't know who Traci is. i did also bring up The Flock and The Perfect Daughter- not books that many people are familiar with. i do recognize that many, many people are frustrated with the subject of Sybil and i didn't indicate in any way whether or not i particularly cared for that book, either. (the fact is, i don't. but i have read it). it was the last book on DID that i read, by the way- the first was First Person Plural. as for the movie Sybil, i never bothered watching it because i saw a clip in highschool that severely triggered my own abuse issues. AND i have not only discussed DID books. if you read my posts in other forums, i have reccomended books on depression, borderline, and transference in psychotherapy as well as MANY books on self-injury. these are all books that i have read which have enriched my life in one way or another. when it comes to the DID books, the only one I ever suggested someone should read was "The DID Sourcebook," which I reccomended to Ozzie. I didn't suggest any of the others. I just told jj that I had read them.

i did ask jj once if anyone else posts on psychcentral that could make sure it's safe- simply because jj is a NINE year-old, who has told me that there are older people in her circle that are co-conscious. i was only trying to look out for my fellow forum members. i didn't mean to intrude or be rude. when i have asked that question, it is not out of morbid curiousity- it is out of a desire to know who i'm "talking" with. i have asked MANY people on the forums here how old they are and what gender they are, and what they do for a living, and what books they've read, etc. all someone has to do is tell me that i'm out of line, and i'm quick to correct it. I HAVE THE BEST OF INTENTIONS.

yes, i am a psychology major. and yes, i plan on specializing in trauma-related issues. that includes ptsd, did, borderline, ddnos, si, eating disorders, etc. the reason i am specializing in this is NOT because i want to satisfy some curiousity. it is because i have a history of severe trauma of my own, and i want to first heal myself and then help others as my own T (who also has her own history of trauma) has helped me. i am here at psychcentral because a friend reccomended it to me- because i am in therapy processing through issues of severe neglect, abuse, and enmeshment. i also have a problem with self-injury. i don't know what my diagnosis is- but i can tell you that i meet the criteria for: borderline, ptsd, major depressive disorder, and ddnos currently. so it's not like i'm some cold, calloused 'professional' here to examine and judge.

please understand that i mean well, and that is it IMPOSSIBLE for me, never having been where you are, to understand and know every little thing that is going to upset you. also, please know that i am doing my very best to be a friend to everyone at psychcentral- and to be understanding. please do the same in return.

take care,
angela (sweet crusader)

-comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable-

[dexter]

Hello zenhussy

>>I guess I am wondering whether or not there are enough people in this forum with enough understanding of DID or DIDNOS to offer adequate support.

Also remember that this is a VERY NEW forum here, so people need time to find it, feel comfortable in the environment... heck even time to establish an environment. Whether or not there is enough support here time will tell.

Give some time for this new forum to find its soul. Hopefully it will become a good place for discussion and support. As a "singleton" myself, I did not come here out of curiosity, but I do find it informative to learn what types of replys may be helpful or harmful if I ever find myself in a postion to post a (hopefully helpful) reply here.

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--http://www.idexter.com

[ivonne]

As a monobrain I had never thought about DID and I wouldn't be here now if I hadn't been having trouble with dissociation as well as having a girlfriend with DID. I have read the thread here and I object to the tone of it. It seems like as a monobrain I have no place here and I am struggling too you know. Zenhussy you are making me feel unwelcome and I do ask that you judge me and others not so much by the standards of our ignorance about things, but rather by our willingness to understand and offer support. I am not looking for you to educate me, just tell me about what is so about your life, where it has a bearing on mine.
You are making me feel like any question I might have is wrong to begin with. I think it is not wrong to be curious about something you do not understand. DID's seem to have found a way to deal with childhood trauma that I find interesting because it has some parallels with my way of coping. I am sure there are a lot of differences too, but as a way of seeking and offering support I tend to look for the commonality of the human experience.
I hope that for this forum respect is going to be the operative word and not judgement. I for one have had to cope with judgement too often and I am not having it anymore.
Ivonne

[mandala]

Ivonne,

I'm not sure what you are objecting to in this thread. Zenhussy was upset and she was forthright about how she felt. Some of us here understood where she was comng from and some didn't.

I'm not sure why DocJohn named this the "Dissociative Disorders" forum vs "Dissociation" but having a dissociative disorder IS different from dissociation as a coping skill.in general. My perception was that this forum was intended as a place particularly for those of us with SEVERE dissociative difficulties. I think what Zen was saying that she, too, had this expectation and that she was hoping this was a special place where'd we'd be innately understood and accepted by each other. Surely we value input from everyone but dissociative disorders have idiosyncracies just like depression or personality disorders and we'd like posters to be mindful of that fact so that this can be a safe place for us all..

Zenhussy's worries were very specific -- not being questioned about certain aspects of being DID, not being stereotyped, etc. I think those are legitimate concerns and I don't see how any could take offense at her fears.

As for the 'monobrain' thing I think that our forum moderator already addressed that... no need to rehash it since an understanding has already been achieved.

In any case, I wouldn't allow a couple of posts by any one poster make you feel welcome or welcome... this is a large site.

M

[darkeyes]

I do not quite understand your defensive attitude you are taking here, I may have missed something but I viewed the posts here and haven't found any that appear to see you as you have written in your post.
I am sorry though if someone has PMed you or said something that none of us know about, but none of us view anyone here as an "experiment", we are literally here to try to support and understand one another.
We also appreciate if someone shares their knowledge about their disorder or others, educating one another is not a sin, it is helpful to try to educate others, helps remove some of the stereotypes/stigmas, again I am sorry that you do not view this forum as such. I am also sorry that the forum doesn't meet your expectation.
I hope you will reconsider and hang around, even help others to understand this disorder, even encourage others how and why to seek help with it.
But that is your own personal decision, and I wish you luck in every way.
Best wishes,
DE

In giving advice seek to help, not please your friend
SOLON

[ivonne]

Not objecting to the term monobrain, I like it. In fact I find it very creative and descriptive of the condition of my brain in comparison to yours I presume.

[fgh]

Hello. I did never hear that word before I read it hear. I do not think we have more than one bbbbrrrrraiiinnnnn. Just lots sharing it. I like singletons and multiples. Some times it is hard to get used to some thing that is new like a word. jj

<font color=purple> It is fun to climb trees and run barefoot in dirt and lie in the grass and find pictures in the clouds.

[neri]

i hope i haven't insulted you... i posted my wonderings to other locations cuz i didn't want to step on anyone's toes. I've been trying to understand DID a little since there's people here i care about who have it.. i don't feel that i've been asking intrusive questions though

if i've been an idiot about this..

[SweetCrusader]

Neriz,

This is actually a really old thread, from when this forum first got started and I believe the feelings expressed here have mostly (if not entirely) been resolved. I also don't think it had anything to do with you personally. In fact, I'm not sure you were even a member yet when this thread was started.

Take care,
Angela