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Counseling appointment at 1:30pm today.
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Lack of patience can be due to ADHD which can lead to having anger issues. The same is true for PTSD. There are things you can learn to do to gain better control.
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My counselor told me that what she sees currently is past behaviors that are still being measured with an "old ruler."
I showed my therapist the break up text and my response, "Wow, I'm speechless. You've been through a lot. I'm sorry too....I Love You." 2 years ago i could not have responded like that. |
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I had a student who’s father was a police officer. He told me that his daily life was always dealing with angry people. I never thought about it until he said that. Most don’t realize the amount of stress and negativity these officers face daily.
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Then there were the guys who beat kids to death with a ball bat. It was different everyday I have been shot and stabbed, but it wasn't all bad. |
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You know, to be able to text me and tell me that she has no love for me, tells me that i doubt she ever really did
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Feeling a little better...ate for the first time since Sunday
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Most women consider love in terms of being safe. This means not having to deal with the uncertainty of shifting mood swings.
It’s not how much money or how sexually satisfying. It’s consistently respecting and maintaining a peaceful environment. Not invading the environment with angry outbursts. |
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Though I've been critiquing your wife as deceitful (which she is), she actually forewarned you . . . more than once . . . and in multiple ways. Look at what you wrote above. You glossed over things like that because you were in love. I'm able to look objectively at the narrative you present because I'm not emotionally involved. You can't switch off your feelings, but you do need to start thinking with your head. Recognize that she is focused on her material security. She has been for a long time . . . as she flat-out told you. Believe her! A contract was drawn up years ago "to protect HER assets?" That's interesting. (I got that out of one of your posts above.) What remains between the two of you now is strictly business. She has been - and is - focused like a laser on her material wellbeing going forward. That's what you need to understand. This is not about you having destroyed her spirit with your "low vibrations" and "negative energy." Please don't drink that kool aid. Your wife and you each have biological children. Which of them do you think she cares most about? (She wants to be a great grandma.) You were good to her kids. But, when your troubled 8 year old needed care, she wasn't too invested. Supposedly, she got assaulted, and the child had to be sent away. I bet there's more to that story than meets the eye. You don't want the kids and your folks to think badly of her. What they think is not for you to control. I endorse your decision to not run her down. (Even though she'ld gladly put you down to them - like she said about the GPS tracking.) When it's appropriate, give your family factual information. They will formulate their own conclusions. That is not your concern. The main fact is that she wants to end the marriage. You don't have to elaborate on that to anyone. You still have responsibilities toward your own children, though they are grown. They are still yours. Invest in your relationship with them, if you are not estranged from them. Stay friendly with her kids, if that remains feasible, but allow a certain space and distance, so everyone has breathing room while things are in transition. |
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I get along well with my kids and hers too. |
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I've come a long ways from where i once was. |
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No matter what i feel, i now must understand that my role has only ever been to function as a financial tool.
Any love i received was simply to feed the workhorse I'll get past this i think. |
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We talked this morning and agreeing to split was indeed the best decision.
I thanked her for finally being honest about staying with me only because of my income and i agreed to continue supporting her until this next big deal closes. At that time, we will divide assests and go our separate ways |
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Today, i finally feel like i am able to breathe again.
Things must end, but we are in agreement. We've maintained a legal separation for several years and i voluntarily gave up my legal claim to our marital home when we purchased it together. The home will continue to be her sole and separate property. |
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At least she is being honest with you. It may be years since you had angry outbursts but that may have already been too late.
Personally, I think some men don’t realize that love can be destroyed if they expect a woman to mother them while they have their tantrums. I personally don’t think it’s fair to think that love was never there. That is expecting someone to give up all self respect while waiting for their partner to grow up. |
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I can appreciate your opinion. I may never know the answer to all of these questions, but i have had many questions answered. The biggest killer of her love for me, according to her, was my obsession with my career as a working musician. I was gone a lot and emotionally unavailable, but that's what paid for the $150,000 backyard and bathroom upgrades, so i think my inability to balance career and a relationship is my biggest failing. Ironically, i actually quit my job as a performer to spend more time with her, but by then, it was too late. I will truly miss her, but i do not think we were meant to go any farther than this point. We have both grown and evolved as individuals, but i had zero emotional tools available when i needed them. By the time i had developed personally, there was no saving it. I told her this morning that i deeply love her and deeply regret that my behaviors resulted in the end of our relationship, but subsequently i also feel a sense of relief in that i have been set free from an impossible evaluation standard that i would have never been able to attain. For three years, i lived without any physical intimacy, even kissing, but still needed to cuddle with her each night because that was something that she needed. |
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There's nothing a woman can do to me that can destroy my love for her, if i truly love her, which happens to be the case here, so i just cannot wrap my head around the premise that you are describing above. That's just not how my psyche operates. |
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Ironically, i really do enjoy her company, we ask each other how our days went and i look forward to spending time with her. Even now.
We discussed this most recent business venture and estimate it will require 2-4 years to reach maturity. We will need to reside together until then. Since everything in our life is governed by a long-standing legal separation agreement, EVERYTHING we do is based on honor and trust because there is nothing a court could do to influence these circumstances. |
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