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Old Mar 03, 2012, 04:33 PM
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I've decided to get the help I need and go into treatment. So I've started calling around and talking to the different places in my area and the surrounding areas only to find out NO ONE takes my insurance. Which is medicaid. I'm finding that you either have to have money up front, which is a joke or have GREAT insurance. Which I have NEITHER!!!!! I'm beginning to see why so many people are dying from eating disorders. It's not because they don't want help, it's because it's IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IT!!! I'm so frustrated. So I guess I will sit here and truly suffer in silence. I give up.
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Old Mar 05, 2012, 01:18 PM
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Can you call a hotline or some resource that can find a place for you? Does your insurance company have any ideas? Maybe they might have a place that they work with. Have you tried one on one counseling too?

I know it's tough, but please don't give up hun. You're too special...
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Old Mar 05, 2012, 11:43 PM
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Can you call a hotline or some resource that can find a place for you? Does your insurance company have any ideas? Maybe they might have a place that they work with. Have you tried one on one counseling too?

I know it's tough, but please don't give up hun. You're too special...
I am working with a team of 3. My regular doctor, a nutrionist & a therapist. However ALL 3 are saying I have a 30 year old eating disorder and that I need more than they can offer. They are all saying I need inpatient at this point. Outpatient is not working. I have medicaid and they don't pay for anything. My regular doctor is checking into it for me. Hospitals are just not staffed to handle people w/ eating disorders & treatment centers are ALL about the money. It's either pay up front or you better have GREAT insurance, which I have neither. So I'm pretty much SOL if you know what I mean. I'm so frustrated. I finally admit I have a problem, now it's to bad so sad for me.Such as life. I just pray my suffering with this is a short one so god can just take me. Anything is better than this. It's not fair. I've always had normal insurance until I lost my job. Now because I have to be on medicaid for a little while I get treated like I'm a piece of junk. I bet if I had my normal insurance back I'd be treated completly different. aint life grand?
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Old Mar 06, 2012, 05:59 PM
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Where do you live? I'm on Medicaid, and it has paid for me to be in the hospital, in a psych facility. Eating disorder programs were available. I live in New York State, and we do have excellent medical care.

Have you investigated every program? There must be some that accept Medicaid.
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 01:44 AM
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Where do you live? I'm on Medicaid, and it has paid for me to be in the hospital, in a psych facility. Eating disorder programs were available. I live in New York State, and we do have excellent medical care.

Have you instigated every program? There must be some that accept Medicaid.
All hospitals where I live are not staffed to handle eating disorders, plus I NOT NOT want to be in a psych ward, I'm not comfortable with thay one. Medical coverage sucks out where I live. I had such a bad day today w/ my ED. I wish it would just go away. I could just go into a corner and cry. I wish someone understood what I'm going through.

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Old Mar 09, 2012, 09:14 AM
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Does anyone know if there are any scholarships out there for treatment facilities? I have run out of options. I'm not going to get the help I need and I don't know how to stop what I'm doing either. This has truly become my worst nightmare.

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When I lived in California, I was 43 when anorexia hit....started with my pdoc prescribing prozac. I lost so much weight.....without saying anything to anyone.....then my husband mentioned my condition to my pdoc......I didn't care & was just willing to die from it. My pdoc found the Radar Institute which was about 100 miles away from my home.....but they had money to cover my stay for almost 1 1/2 months. Back in 1995 none of the Eating Disorders treatment centers were covered by any insurance & it was all money up front. Each center has it's own grant money available for those who are in desperate need & that was definitely my situation. My pdoc was the one that arranged it all including the financing......so maybe if your Dr's took over finding the place for you that was covered, they would be more willing to negotiate with your Dr's than with you......just know that's how it worked for me the first time I was in need of treatment.

Unfortunately, I wasn't at a place where I wanted it to work.....so the only thing that was accomplished was that they forced me to gain some weight during my time there so I wasn't in such a dangerous place.....for the next year after that however, I was in & out of the medical hospital needing a central line & IV nutrition every time I passed out. I just wanted to be left alone....but that didn't happen.

My last time with anorexia came from the trauma I went through with the home care person when my mother was dying of cancer. Ended up in the medical hospital again for almost a month (on & off around my mother's death). They strongly suggested that I go to an ED treatment center again.....but they didn't get it that it wasn't anorexia just because I wanted to be thin.....my eating problems also come from severe stress/trauma & none of the ED treatment centers treated anorexia that comes from anything other than body image issues. That time my Dr's put it on me to find a place that was able to help me. I really felt like you by that point.....totally invalidated about the trauma I had gone through & angry at the world including the police for allowing things like that to happen to my mother without holding the person responsible.....let alone the anger I had at the hospital & her oncologist because if they hadn't treated her the way they did & left me out of the decision making process, the whole situation would have never happened. I was a complete mess & the only reason I still wanted to live was because I had the most adorable filly that my mare had right before everything happened & she was my reason to live.....but PTSD was causing the anorexia to really mess me up.

I think that what you really need to do with the ED treatment centers you are interested in going to is talking to them. Ask them if they have programs available for people who don't have any money to pay & no insurance.....many might have financial forms you will need to fill out dealing with your financial situation. You may have to find a place a lot farther away from where you life that has a financial program, but it might be worth it to travel farther to get the treatment covered.

The one thing I did find was that yes, they covered the cost of the program.....but they didn't cover the cost of the pdoc they forced me to see while I was there or the other medical tests they forced me to go through......those all hit afterward & ended up going into collection because we had no money to pay for it & it also wasn't covered by the insurance. At that time, I'm not sure if I was on medicare or not at that time......think that came in 1 year after I was on disability & my husband's insurance didn't cover any ED treatment.

I know the frustrations you are feeling & they do make you just feel like giving up even when you initially were willing not to.

Truly hope that you can find a place where you can find a grant available to help you get through this.
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Old Mar 11, 2012, 05:02 PM
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When I lived in California, I was 43 when anorexia hit....started with my pdoc prescribing prozac. I lost so much weight.....without saying anything to anyone.....then my husband mentioned my condition to my pdoc......I didn't care & was just willing to die from it. My pdoc found the Radar Institute which was about 100 miles away from my home.....but they had money to cover my stay for almost 1 1/2 months. Back in 1995 none of the Eating Disorders treatment centers were covered by any insurance & it was all money up front. Each center has it's own grant money available for those who are in desperate need & that was definitely my situation. My pdoc was the one that arranged it all including the financing......so maybe if your Dr's took over finding the place for you that was covered, they would be more willing to negotiate with your Dr's than with you......just know that's how it worked for me the first time I was in need of treatment.

Unfortunately, I wasn't at a place where I wanted it to work.....so the only thing that was accomplished was that they forced me to gain some weight during my time there so I wasn't in such a dangerous place.....for the next year after that however, I was in & out of the medical hospital needing a central line & IV nutrition every time I passed out. I just wanted to be left alone....but that didn't happen.

My last time with anorexia came from the trauma I went through with the home care person when my mother was dying of cancer. Ended up in the medical hospital again for almost a month (on & off around my mother's death). They strongly suggested that I go to an ED treatment center again.....but they didn't get it that it wasn't anorexia just because I wanted to be thin.....my eating problems also come from severe stress/trauma & none of the ED treatment centers treated anorexia that comes from anything other than body image issues. That time my Dr's put it on me to find a place that was able to help me. I really felt like you by that point.....totally invalidated about the trauma I had gone through & angry at the world including the police for allowing things like that to happen to my mother without holding the person responsible.....let alone the anger I had at the hospital & her oncologist because if they hadn't treated her the way they did & left me out of the decision making process, the whole situation would have never happened. I was a complete mess & the only reason I still wanted to live was because I had the most adorable filly that my mare had right before everything happened & she was my reason to live.....but PTSD was causing the anorexia to really mess me up.

I think that what you really need to do with the ED treatment centers you are interested in going to is talking to them. Ask them if they have programs available for people who don't have any money to pay & no insurance.....many might have financial forms you will need to fill out dealing with your financial situation. You may have to find a place a lot farther away from where you life that has a financial program, but it might be worth it to travel farther to get the treatment covered.

The one thing I did find was that yes, they covered the cost of the program.....but they didn't cover the cost of the pdoc they forced me to see while I was there or the other medical tests they forced me to go through......those all hit afterward & ended up going into collection because we had no money to pay for it & it also wasn't covered by the insurance. At that time, I'm not sure if I was on medicare or not at that time......think that came in 1 year after I was on disability & my husband's insurance didn't cover any ED treatment.

I know the frustrations you are feeling & they do make you just feel like giving up even when you initially were willing not to.

Truly hope that you can find a place where you can find a grant available to help you get through this.
Thanks. I did call radar institute they told me to call back medicaid and insist that they either give me a referral or give me one from out of state. They told me by law they have to give me something. Yeah right. I called them back and they keep giving me the same run around. That they have no one that they can send me to. So I just give up. My husband is not being supportive of me anyway. It's so negative in my house it's not even funny. Which is only making things worse for me. At this point I will need a miracle. Thank you for responding to me. I have never felt so all alone in my life as I do now.
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See if they have schlorships. Or someone to sponsor you just a though.
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Old Mar 16, 2012, 05:32 PM
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Thank you everyone. I am applying for scholarships. With those theres not many right now that have the funding avaiable. I've never heard of anyone sponsoring me. Thats a new one. Other than that I've exhausted all options for me. It's sad that someone over 40 with medcaid can't get help for an ED. So I am going to suffer in silence and theres nothing I can do about it. I just pray god takes me soon so I don't suffer long because I can't take much more of living this way either. It's just not right to do to someone. It's like NO ONE cares at all.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 06:01 PM
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People here who answered your post do care, don't forget that, you found supportive people here. It is not like in your real life, but remember the support you get from here during difficult time like you have now.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 07:46 PM
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When I went inpatient they put me in a women's unit and many patients had eating disorders and trauma histories. I also have PTSD. I have medicare, and mass health (MA version of welfare insurance). My insurance also paid for a nurse/dietician in a hospital that dealt with eating disorders. I hope you hang in and keep looking at this thread. Maybe, one of our suggestions will work out. Sorry, you don't get support at home as well. Hugs.
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Old Mar 23, 2012, 04:37 PM
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People here who answered your post do care, don't forget that, you found supportive people here. It is not like in your real life, but remember the support you get from here during difficult time like you have now.
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Thank you. I'm having such a hard time. Yestrday was such a bad day. One year ago yestrday my 8 year old neice unexpectedly past away. My ED was so bad. I had approx 20 laxative pills,water pills,diet pills and magnesium citrate liquid. Plus the purging. I just couldn't control it. I was not in a good place. Today is a little better, still not by much. I'm still unable to find treatment. I'm am getting help in the search. Still seems like it's taking forever. Thank you again for your support.

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Old Mar 23, 2012, 04:43 PM
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When I went inpatient they put me in a women's unit and many patients had eating disorders and trauma histories. I also have PTSD. I have medicare, and mass health (MA version of welfare insurance). My insurance also paid for a nurse/dietician in a hospital that dealt with eating disorders. I hope you hang in and keep looking at this thread. Maybe, one of our suggestions will work out. Sorry, you don't get support at home as well. Hugs.
I to have PTSD from all of the abuse in my past I went through. My ED really started when I was approx 14 with bulimia. I'm now 42. This has been approx 30 years of dealing with this. I'm exhausted and very overwhelmed. I can use all the support I can get right now. It's taken me 30 years to admit I even have a problem, now not being able to find the help I need is like almost giving me an excuse to keep doing what I'm doing. Thinking well no one cares so I'll just keep going. So coming on here is helping a little. Thank you.

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Old Mar 23, 2012, 11:41 PM
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I can truly understand that "no one cares" feeling. It is so difficult when no one around can or "will" help find the help that we need.......I know that feeling of well, if no one will help then "screw them".....but in all honesty, we are the ones that have to care about ourselves if we are truly going to heal.

At the time my pdoc got me into the Radar Institues in So California, I didn't care if I lived or not......so I really wasn't ready to get into any treatment.....my pdoc was having a hard enough time keeping me alive outside of the anorexia.

After going through the trauma I went through with my mother & my pdoc & my medical GP wanted me to get into treatment.....but the treatment centers only deal with body image issues & not the PTSD issues that were causing my anorexia......they said they couldn't help me with the issues that were causing my anorexia at that time & I knew from the first time in the treatment center.....that was true.

I can't believe that the treatment centers don't get into the real reasons behind the anorexia......because for me, the body image was NOT THE REASONS for the anorexia.....but as I kept loosing weight, the desire to loose more & to get thinner became more of a desire......but the things that initially.

Your abuse & the PTSD issues need to be resolved because I am guessing but from my own experience, those issues are what initiated my ED in the first place.....any body image was really secondary & came as a side effect from the PTSD issues/my depression/anxiety that my first experience with anorexia came from.

The fact that your husband & family aren't being supportive is just a different form of abuse......which is just adding to deepening your anorexia. I do understand what a wonderful feeling it is when someone really cares about our life. I never experienced that feeling until 4 1/2 years ago when I finally LEFT my husband & moved 2100 miles away where I didn't know anyone. How I went from not knowing anyone to having so many wonderful support groups from church, to Bible study groups that I go to & the horse riding groups that I am involved with.....I have never found so many people who truly care about me & how I am doing. Who gave me wonderful support when I broke my back last year after falling off a horse.....& my psychologist & the leader of my DBT group who went to bat to get them to wave my fee for my DBT group so I could continue on with it........it was the strangest feeling to feel care from others. It was such a contrast to the feeling 7 years ago, in a marriage where my husband had never cared for 33 years.

It was those 4 1/2 years ago when I started to live completely alone & care for my 7 dogs at that time (I have lost 2 over the last few years & now have 5 of my dogs to care for) that I had to be responsible & I had to have the energy to take care of my farm & mow the fields. After working my self exhausted during the day, I was also hungry because my body needed the calories to keep going. I also found that not having someone I expected to care around me was a great relief. It's amazing how when you are surrounded by responsibilities that ONLY you can handle because you have ONLY YOU to depend on.....it really changes the face of anorexia also.

I have to admit when I lost my dogs, I went through a period where I couldn't eat & when I lost my friend to cancer this last January.....that stress feeling hit again & I couldn't eat for a little while....but it didn't last....as the responsibilities that surround me are here with no one else to depend on. I am still looking forward to getting my horse here.....& that will one more wonderful responsibility to keep myself healthy for.

When we have no reason to be healthy & feel that no one cares including ourself.....then what reason is there for recovering? It's something that only we can determine for ourself & when we determine that reason....no one can take it away.

Treatment does help at times.....but the reason for it to work can only come from within yourself.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 07:37 PM
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I can truly understand that "no one cares" feeling. It is so difficult when no one around can or "will" help find the help that we need.......I know that feeling of well, if no one will help then "screw them".....but in all honesty, we are the ones that have to care about ourselves if we are truly going to heal.

At the time my pdoc got me into the Radar Institues in So California, I didn't care if I lived or not......so I really wasn't ready to get into any treatment.....my pdoc was having a hard enough time keeping me alive outside of the anorexia.

After going through the trauma I went through with my mother & my pdoc & my medical GP wanted me to get into treatment.....but the treatment centers only deal with body image issues & not the PTSD issues that were causing my anorexia......they said they couldn't help me with the issues that were causing my anorexia at that time & I knew from the first time in the treatment center.....that was true.

I can't believe that the treatment centers don't get into the real reasons behind the anorexia......because for me, the body image was NOT THE REASONS for the anorexia.....but as I kept loosing weight, the desire to loose more & to get thinner became more of a desire......but the things that initially.

Your abuse & the PTSD issues need to be resolved because I am guessing but from my own experience, those issues are what initiated my ED in the first place.....any body image was really secondary & came as a side effect from the PTSD issues/my depression/anxiety that my first experience with anorexia came from.

The fact that your husband & family aren't being supportive is just a different form of abuse......which is just adding to deepening your anorexia. I do understand what a wonderful feeling it is when someone really cares about our life. I never experienced that feeling until 4 1/2 years ago when I finally LEFT my husband & moved 2100 miles away where I didn't know anyone. How I went from not knowing anyone to having so many wonderful support groups from church, to Bible study groups that I go to & the horse riding groups that I am involved with.....I have never found so many people who truly care about me & how I am doing. Who gave me wonderful support when I broke my back last year after falling off a horse.....& my psychologist & the leader of my DBT group who went to bat to get them to wave my fee for my DBT group so I could continue on with it........it was the strangest feeling to feel care from others. It was such a contrast to the feeling 7 years ago, in a marriage where my husband had never cared for 33 years.

It was those 4 1/2 years ago when I started to live completely alone & care for my 7 dogs at that time (I have lost 2 over the last few years & now have 5 of my dogs to care for) that I had to be responsible & I had to have the energy to take care of my farm & mow the fields. After working my self exhausted during the day, I was also hungry because my body needed the calories to keep going. I also found that not having someone I expected to care around me was a great relief. It's amazing how when you are surrounded by responsibilities that ONLY you can handle because you have ONLY YOU to depend on.....it really changes the face of anorexia also.

I have to admit when I lost my dogs, I went through a period where I couldn't eat & when I lost my friend to cancer this last January.....that stress feeling hit again & I couldn't eat for a little while....but it didn't last....as the responsibilities that surround me are here with no one else to depend on. I am still looking forward to getting my horse here.....& that will one more wonderful responsibility to keep myself healthy for.

When we have no reason to be healthy & feel that no one cares including ourself.....then what reason is there for recovering? It's something that only we can determine for ourself & when we determine that reason....no one can take it away.

Treatment does help at times.....but the reason for it to work can only come from within yourself.
Thank you so much. Getting support from here means alot to me. I'm struggling so bad. I'm applying for scolarships, I'm applying for treatment centers as well. I'm just so frustrated. Being able to come here and vent is something I really need to do. One more person tells me to "get over it" I swear. Don't they understand that sends me further into my ED. I just wish a treatment center would just say we'll help you. Don't worry about money, just get here and we will help you. What a pipe dream that is. I'm so exhausted and on the verge of giving up, no one has any idea. I just want this to be over. I want so much to just move forward with my life, yet I can't. This is consuming my entire life. On the other hand I don't want to give up my control. I want to get help on my terms, not someone elses. Which I'm not sure if I can even have it both ways like that. I'm so messed up. Yet I don't know how to stop this. I've never been so confused in all my life.
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I just wish a treatment center would just say we'll help you. Don't worry about money, just get here and we will help you. What a pipe dream that is. I'm so exhausted and on the verge of giving up, no one has any idea. I just want this to be over.
I think the reason they don't do this is because they can't determine between those who are very serious about being there & those like me who really didn't want to get better at the time. That is why they put all the hoops out there that are needed to jump through (or the high cost) because then people won't be going there is they aren't serious about getting better.

Don't give up because it takes time for them to know that you are serious about getting better & wanting to get over the ED.....that takes time & effort on your part which proves to them that you are serious. Help will come because you are determined to get better.....if you give up.....that will only prove to them that you weren't that serious & that they were right. It's important for control to be in control of your getting better which includes your determination to get that help that you need.

Listen also to what treatment they really offer & if you have expectations on how they are going to treat you.....sometimes it might be different & the conflict between their treatment methods & your expectations can be a struggle. The fact is that they aren't going to fix you at the treatment center.....they are going to help you work through your concepts that are causing you to continue with your ED.....but it's going to have to be your own CONTROL TO STOP YOUR ED rather than your control to continue that is going to make your recovery possible.

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I want so much to just move forward with my life, yet I can't. This is consuming my entire life.
I did find with everything I have going on in my life....there is no room for the anorexia to take over because I have so many things that I enjoy doing & I need the energy to do them. I know that doesn't guarantee that one doesn't suffer with anorexia, but I found that the less outside demands I had on my life that I needed to be well to participate in (like playing racquettball with the men at work & riding & showing horses & now having to take care of my whole farm by myself). I know that my depression after loosing my career took over my life & did hurt my family but that was after I lost the one thing in my life that really mattered to me.

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On the other hand I don't want to give up my control. I want to get help on my terms, not someone elses. Which I'm not sure if I can even have it both ways like that.
What exactly are you expecting out of the treatment? It's not a matter of giving up your control it's a matter of placing it in a different place. It's a matter of placing your control in a place to make yourself healthy.....not in a place that can ruin your marriage, or even worse, can kill you in the long run. It places your control on eating healthy & controlling your weight to keep it at a healthy place....not too little.....not too much.....that really takes more control.

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I'm so messed up. Yet I don't know how to stop this. I've never been so confused in all my life.
Yes, learning the skills necessary to stop your actions & to be in control of your life take more effort & control than to just restrict one's eating to loose weight. Unfortunately, most of those skills we have never been taught by our parents & learning those skills is not easy & doesn't happen overnight & it takes breaking the patterns that have become our habits.

Keep seeking help....keep in control of trying to get that help for yourself.....as it does prove that you really want it in spite of all the discouragement (sort of like testing your determination). We feel we don't have any more to give....but it's that little bit more you push that will prove to the one help you will get that you are serious & really want the help you are asking for.
....know it will all work out for you....know it feels confusing.....because it is....to want help but not want to give up the control you are used to having & not knowing what being recovered even feels like by placing your control in an entirely different place in your life.....it's like rewriting your life & walking down a new path that you haven't walked before....it's understandable to feel the way you are feeling...but wonderful that you can express the confusing feelings you are having. I was always so our of touch with my thoughts that I couldn't even express my confusion or my feelings......you are doing well to be able to come here & express yourself the way you are doing.
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Have you heard of Feast.com? My parents used it when I was getting treated and I have heard many people recommending it.
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Old Mar 29, 2012, 11:53 PM
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I think the reason they don't do this is because they can't determine between those who are very serious about being there & those like me who really didn't want to get better at the time. That is why they put all the hoops out there that are needed to jump through (or the high cost) because then people won't be going there is they aren't serious about getting better.

Don't give up because it takes time for them to know that you are serious about getting better & wanting to get over the ED.....that takes time & effort on your part which proves to them that you are serious. Help will come because you are determined to get better.....if you give up.....that will only prove to them that you weren't that serious & that they were right. It's important for control to be in control of your getting better which includes your determination to get that help that you need.

Listen also to what treatment they really offer & if you have expectations on how they are going to treat you.....sometimes it might be different & the conflict between their treatment methods & your expectations can be a struggle. The fact is that they aren't going to fix you at the treatment center.....they are going to help you work through your concepts that are causing you to continue with your ED.....but it's going to have to be your own CONTROL TO STOP YOUR ED rather than your control to continue that is going to make your recovery possible.

I did find with everything I have going on in my life....there is no room for the anorexia to take over because I have so many things that I enjoy doing & I need the energy to do them. I know that doesn't guarantee that one doesn't suffer with anorexia, but I found that the less outside demands I had on my life that I needed to be well to participate in (like playing racquettball with the men at work & riding & showing horses & now having to take care of my whole farm by myself). I know that my depression after loosing my career took over my life & did hurt my family but that was after I lost the one thing in my life that really mattered to me.

What exactly are you expecting out of the treatment? It's not a matter of giving up your control it's a matter of placing it in a different place. It's a matter of placing your control in a place to make yourself healthy.....not in a place that can ruin your marriage, or even worse, can kill you in the long run. It places your control on eating healthy & controlling your weight to keep it at a healthy place....not too little.....not too much.....that really takes more control.

Yes, learning the skills necessary to stop your actions & to be in control of your life take more effort & control than to just restrict one's eating to loose weight. Unfortunately, most of those skills we have never been taught by our parents & learning those skills is not easy & doesn't happen overnight & it takes breaking the patterns that have become our habits.

Keep seeking help....keep in control of trying to get that help for yourself.....as it does prove that you really want it in spite of all the discouragement (sort of like testing your determination). We feel we don't have any more to give....but it's that little bit more you push that will prove to the one help you will get that you are serious & really want the help you are asking for.
....know it will all work out for you....know it feels confusing.....because it is....to want help but not want to give up the control you are used to having & not knowing what being recovered even feels like by placing your control in an entirely different place in your life.....it's like rewriting your life & walking down a new path that you haven't walked before....it's understandable to feel the way you are feeling...but wonderful that you can express the confusing feelings you are having. I was always so our of touch with my thoughts that I couldn't even express my confusion or my feelings......you are doing well to be able to come here & express yourself the way you are doing.
Again thank you for your supporyive words. I went to see my nutrionist today and now she wants to step things up. Meaning right now I only see her once every other week. Well now she wants to see me twice a week. plus see my therapist and then see my regular doc twice a month. She wants to do this as outpatient. Not just as me seeing her for advice. Yikes!! She wants to do this because for one my laxative use has increased and so has my purging. I'm up to 20 to 30 laxative pills a day, water pills daily, diet pills daily. I take this stuff called magnesium citrate liquid three to four times a week and now I'm purging every day. So this is why she wants to step it up as she calls it until she can find a place for me to be. I'm not happy about this. But I guess it's still better than losing all of my control. For now that is. Like I've said this support here means alot to me. plus I need it, since I really have no support here at home.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 05:41 AM
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You mite say i'm a lucky one.. Been to rehab for ED like 6 times been to Rader and center for change. and fenfro to and a few others. I think there a place in California that took medicare can't remember the name can try to goole it for you. I can't say what saved my life. Was it rehab or was it me. Sometimes the places made things worse for me. It wasen't until I got away from all that and decided I didn't need there help all the weigh in's were making me even worse. So I had to get away from all that.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 05:52 AM
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http://www.casapalmera.com/resources/insurance-information.php They mite be able to help. Hope this helps.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 06:49 PM
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http://www.casapalmera.com/resources/insurance-information.php They mite be able to help. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info. I checked into it and they won't take my kind of insurance. Being out of state they first of all don't take medicaid, but also not out of state public aid either. But thank you for trying.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 06:51 PM
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You mite say i'm a lucky one.. Been to rehab for ED like 6 times been to Rader and center for change. and fenfro to and a few others. I think there a place in California that took medicare can't remember the name can try to goole it for you. I can't say what saved my life. Was it rehab or was it me. Sometimes the places made things worse for me. It wasen't until I got away from all that and decided I didn't need there help all the weigh in's were making me even worse. So I had to get away from all that.
It's funny you mentioned center for change. Is this in utah? theres one place I have not heard back from yet and there in utah. I want to say it's center for change. If it is I just pray they can help me. That LITERALLY is my LAST option.
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Old Mar 31, 2012, 05:16 AM
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I met a lady awhile back. She lost her daughter in the battle About Feather We just got a You Tube channel. www.youtube.com/user/featherweightinc. The video at the top of the page is very special to us. The girl at 1:21 is Heather Begeny. She is the reason for Featherweight to exist. She is the reason we try every day to make something different, better in the world. We are sorry for each and every time we didn't know enough about eating disorders to help; and we truly hope to help get that information out to others. To teach the power that the world around us has. To encourage and inspire those to believe in themselves. From us to Heather, it's too late, From us to the rest of the community, we hope it's not. She raises money to help others that don't have insurance. I haven't spoke to her in a awhile through. Just something you mite find interesting.
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