Did you get your H1N1?

Did you get your H1N1 vaccine yet or have plans to?

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I'll never get that "H1N1 vaccine" as they call it.... I believe it was meant for something other then they say.

I'm not getting it either due to my needle phobia
I'm a total mess lol

What's up with the Alfred Hitchcock tonight Adhd Lol

No, but I've made plans to get it and will be getting it very soon.

I'm planning to get it as soon as it becomes available here. I'm in the high risk group because of chronic disease poop.

I did get the seasonal flu injuection already.

My daughter and her family don't get them. Their 2nd child developed autism and she thinks it may have been for vaccines he got as a baby. Her third child, not 11 years old has not be vaccinnated at all.

I think they are a good thing, but understand those of you who don't want them.

I have gotten mine.

I haven't and don't plan to, it's still too new so we might not know of any side effects. Same reason I'm not getting Gardasil.

i don't think i will considering it's highly possible i developed m.e due to boosters i got last year. =l
my m.e nurse said not to get anything as it can cause problems, so i think i'll pass for now.

Nope!! Not gonna either!!

People think me crazy because I am a Nurse and right now I'm working on the Respiratory/Cardiology Unit...we're getting a lot of rule outs for H1N1...but I do not hop on the vaccination band wagon.

I have an immune system and that's what it's for. I don't need someone shooting bits and pieces of dead H1N1 virus into my body....thank you.

By the way....a lot of people that we're seeing in the hospital and getting diagnosed with H1N1 are not necessarily H1N1. A lot of times the docs just call it that and treat it as that without doing the formal H1N1 testing because it doesn't really matter. People are getting treated the same. If you come in with the Flu...you're getting put in isolation...and they may do some swabs, or they may not. Regardless you're getting hydration and tamiflu and antibiotics to ward of the evil pneumonia.

Yes...it's reached pandemic stage...according to the CDC. And yes, if you are very young, very old, or have a fragile immune system, it is probably good for you to get vaccinated.

I think I will just let my immune system do it's job though. LOL!!! I didn't get the Small Pox vaccine either!!

nope, not getting it either. I just don't trust it and would rather take my chances of getting the h1n1 (I know 2 people who had the virus and they were fine). I did however, get the regular flu vaccine

Some folks may think that this is no laughing matter but that was too funny Elysium

Glad you liked it!!

Not trying to make light of Small Pox. It's a freekin' scary disease. But I remember when they came around the Hospital after 9/11 and were trying to vaccinate everyone for Small Pox. I declined. They looked at me like a cow looks at an oncoming train and tried to tell me I HAD to get it.

I said no thanks. I've got a better chance of catching a SuperBug while working with my patients then getting small pox. Why don't the make a vaccine for that?

Oh yeah....cause if they had a vaccine for infectious agents like SuperBugs...big pharma would lose all that money they make off of hardcore antibiotics!!! Silly me!!

As I said in the health forum I am not having it and I am not allowing my children to have it either...

I have heard it has not been tested on humans contains mecury (spelling I will get it right soon lol) and has animal proteins in it.

I kind of agree with Elysium on this one. No plans to get it!

No and not planning to.
I don't get the seasonal flu shot either since it is just a guess which flu will be going around... so it's a 'shot' in the dark...

I'm going to a clinic tonight after work to get it.

--splitimage

It doesn't make sense to get the seasonal flu shot and not the H1N1 flu shot because both of the vaccines are made the same way. The seasonal flu shot isn't tested before it is given to people either. If H1N1 came into the world a bit earlier, it would have been included in this year's seasonal flu shot.

Plus the dominant flu strain out there is H1N1. Seasonal flu is practically non existent. I got my H1N1 shot and I am not sure the seasonal flu shot is necessary.

The mercury in the flu shots is ethylmercury and not methylmercury. Ethylmercury is much safer than methylmercury because methymercury accumulates in the body but ethyl mercury is passed out. Methymercury is in tuna fish. So it is actually more dangerous to eat a tuna fish sandwich than get the flu shot.

There is a risk of Gullian Barre Syndrome with the shot, but there is also the risk of Guillian Barre if you manage to catch flu itself. Any infection can trigger it. Your chances of getting Guillian Barre from an actual infection is much greater than from a vaccine. The vaccine actually makes your chances of getting Gullian Barre lower because it prevents the flu.

The only really dangerous thing about the flu shot is that it may trigger a serious allergic reaction in a very select group of people, anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is very rare though and one person gets it for every 100,000 people vaccinated. That is why it is important to wait 15 mins after the shot. Usually anaphylaxis occurs within a few minutes of getting the vaccine. A shot of adrenaline will save your life if that happens. Anaphylaxis can develop from anything really, not just the vaccine. You could suddenly develop an allergy from latex for example and get it.

The really big side effect from the vaccine is a sore arm. Some people may also get a mild fever and fatigue, but it is not serious. Just take some Tylenol and you will be fine. It is not the flu.

Some people will develop the actual flu after the vaccine, but it is not from the vaccine. The vaccine can't give you the flu. It can take 2 weeks for your body to develop enough immunity to the flu from the flu shot so during that time you could still catch the flu. Aslo the flu vaccine doesn't prevent the flu if you've already gotten infected with the flu before the shot. The flu vaccine also doesn't work in all people, especially the non adjuvant version. Some people will get the flu despite getting the vaccine.

In Canada we have the H1N1 vaccine with an adjuvant and without an adjuvant. Only pregnant women and healthy people between the ages of 10 to 65 can get the non adjuvanted shot. People with any illness should get the adjuvanted version because it gives you more protection.

I'm glad I got the adjuvanted version myself. The adjuvant is also a natural substance that is actually in our bodies naturally. It makes the immune system response more robust and makes the flu vaccine work better.

I did get a side effect from the vaccine though, a very sore arm. It's been a week and it is still sore when I raise my arm. It is very annoying, but it is not dangerous. I would much rather get a sore arm than get the flu.

In my opinion however, the H1N1 flu is way overblown by the media. Seasonal flu kills as many people. The worrying thing is that H1N1 seems to kill young people more than the seasonal flu and there are cases of healthy young people dying from H1N1. H1N1 seems to target the lungs too. One my my chemistry profs at the University of Ottawa actually was comfirmed to have died of H1N1. He was healthy. Just google it, you will find the story. It is very sad.

I do think the media has scared a lot of people though. H1N1 flu sucks a lot, but most healthy people get over it OK. I do agree that those with underlying conditions and risk factors should get the vaccine though. I don't think it is too important to get the vaccine if you are healthy.

I am healthy though and I choose to get it because I really hate getting the flu, plus I want to do my part in preventing the spread of the flu.

Thanks Greenleaves.
Very informative post.
I am a tuna fish addict.

Just wondering about something Elysium.
H1N1 vaccine is not mandatory for healthcare workers?
I just thought that it might be.
But if you're not getting it ....it can't be.

Actually I do agree that all Big Pharma cares about is money and my medicinal meds prof who worked for Big Pharma agrees, but Big Pharma does not make much money from antibiotics. That is because people can take antibiotics for a week or so and get better and no longer need the antibiotic. There is not much incentive for Big Pharma to come up with new and better antibiotics because they don't make much money off them. People only take antibiotics for a short time.

Big Pharma likes to make meds for the really chronic diseases that almost everyone has, like high blood pressure, high cholesteral, depression and erectile dysfunction. Big Pharma however loves to make new drugs for cancer because they can charge as much money as they want for chemotherapy and they don't need to make sure the drug has benign side effects like for a drug for anxiety for example. The side effect can be death and it would still be acceptable for chemotherapy. It is much easier to make a med when you don't have to worry about serious side effects and you can charge anything you want because people will pay anything for a chance to survive cancer.

Oh yeah, it is absolutely true that Big Pharma makes next to nothing for vaccines. Also there are methods for making vaccines that don't rely on eggs for example that are way way faster, but these methods are also way more expensive so Big Pharma sticks with the ancient method of chicken eggs even though it is way slow.

Governments absolutely need to pressure Big Pharma to use the newer methods to make vaccines or else when the really bad flu comes one day, we will be totally screwed if the vaccine rollout takes as long as it is taking now.

very informative thread this has turned out to be....

I do not believe in getting a flu shot of any kind. The last time I had one was when I was in highschool & didn't have any say over the matter.....since that point, I have never had a flu shot & have not had the flu. I have had bronchitis many times & pneumonia many times.....but NOT the flu (now watch, this year I will get it because I opened my big mouth & said something about it.....lol)

Drug companies are interesting for sure. I am on a high dose of pain mediation....have been for 6 years.....the cost....$1700/month & no insurance....medicare part D for it was costing me over $4000 a year with that insurance. I went to the drug company to check out their patient assistance.....I am on disability...I didn't qualify. I pushed the issue & espressed that on my income alone, it was all I was getting & leaving no money to live......they finally said to appeal the decision.....they qualified me based on how much money it was costing me verses how much liquid assets I have (which is none). Interesting thing is that with their decline, they didn't come back & tell me about the appeal process, it was something I have to pressure them for as I was desperate to have my quality of life continue.

I had a pain specialist that didn't have a problem prescribing it...I just couldn't afford it & live...sad choices they try to force us to make.

Interesting, the hospitals do the same thing.....usually if you prove you do not have a financial way of paying for the amount above insurance/medicare, many will write if off, but they tend to intimidate people into feeling we owe it to them.....NOT TRUE. They get enough money out of the insurance to more than make up for those who don't. But unless you push the issue, you end up stuck....or fighting off collection agencies.

It pays to not sit back & take NO for an answer....to fight the system & push...it seems that is the only to get the results that we need to make it in the health care areas these days.

eskielover

got the regular ole flu shot. Considering the h1n1, but I am not sure. I am not around any of the high risk groups.