[RedBarchetta]

It just seems like anything I attempt to do - I end up just tossing out the window regardless of how much it helps, or how much easier it makes things.
THE reason for ALL it it - loss of privacy - I just totally REFUSE to give up any of it in any situation for any reason - and that's it! That goes back at least as far as when I was in 7th grade (and I think before that too, but can not remember back that far) - at that time, if I needed to leave the classroom for any reason at all I would go directly to the nearest exit, walk out of the building, go around to find another enterance close to where I needed to go, and re-enter the building at that point then move fast - this was even with no coat in the middle of winter. - Why? - Specifically to avoid even being ask anything by anyone. You also could not get me to use any medication while in school. - Why? - Because there rules said all medication had to be handled by the nurse - that meant that at least she know (and most likely told teachers) what it was and what it was for - BUT there were not treating anything therefore I was NOT about to do things that way. Oh A handful of times I did use something while at school, but most likely wold have ended up suspended if anyone noticed. Why? - Because the only way that happened is if the school was not told anything and the bottle stayed in my pocket!
After I had gradated High-School things actually got worst in that reguard - even when the economy was good work was hard to get and be satisfied with it. Well, the work itself maybe, but the verry second an employer wanted any sort of medical info - regardless of why - that was it - I ABSOLUTELY did not wish to work there one more minute!
And I DEFINITELY consider even a stupid drug test to be medically privileged info. And if you argue safety reason (meaning if someone is actually under the influence while working) I will tell you then test for actual intoxication at specific times - it is ONLY there business if it is on there time - and sorry I don't care who says what but the marijuana someone smoked 2 weeks ago is not going to have any effect today, but a drug test will still show it. And I also herd the argument that if you are on the level you will pass as long as you declare everything you have a valid prescription for - BUT that in itself is a problem for me - just like in school - you then have people that are not treating anything knowing about it, and that could reveal what problems you have. Want a way around it and satisfy me? - I'll tell you - let the workers own doctor do it - BUT under the provision that the employer is NOT given any specifics (meaning NOT the full tox report!) just is it "normal" or not. And that would mean perscribed on not - if every test taken in the last several years had a positive for cocaine, and so dose the one take for the employer - it is "normal" for that person.
But it's not just medical (as hinted on) it's pretty much anything revealing what I consider information not required in order to accomplish whatever. So basically as far as I am concerned - the ONLY thing an employer has any right knowing about is the actual job proformnace - not off job drug use, not driving record (Unless the job involves driving one of the company vehicles), exc.
And now even online you can't do a lot and still at least keep it anonymous. Especially on big social networking sites! - That came up basically after a different site had pretty much pushed my in to facebook (No I never had an account there or twitter) in order to help promote something I was trying to do on there site - NOW I really want to just forget the whole thing because looking at all the facebook settings - there is now way to prevent your real life name from being revealed on it - unless you just make one up that looks real - but then you risk getting TOSed anyway. So.....

[Achy Turtle Armor]

I totally understand what you are saying.

I was a bit surprised with a question when I renewed my drivers license last week. The man asks me,

Man: How tall are you.
Me: 5'1"
Man: Do you want to be an organ donor?
Me: Yes.
Man: Are you an alcoholic or drug addict?
Me: (shocked!) No. (I lied a$$hole. It's not any of your business unless you are planning on profiling me without my knowledge. Is there some secret code you put on my license that tells the police who stops me to search for drugs or test for alcohol?)

I'm in Florida by the way. I just wanna know. When did this **** start?

[RedBarchetta]

Yes sort of my point - Now I will give them you had said you wanted to be an organ donor, and if you do have an alcohol or drug problem it WILL have an effect on what organs are worth re-using (really I would not want a liver that came out of a chronic alcoholic) BUT that again is the medical communities issue NOT motor vehicles - unless you are actually driving while drunk/stoned, but even then you concern yourself with that one particular case of intoxication - DEFINITELY NOT what state of mind you might be in when not driving!

[RedBarchetta]

Just DELETED that facebook account - sorry but if they are not giving me a way to use it that will not reveal my rel-life identity to ANYONE I absolutely do not want it as just that simple!

[Agarwaen]

Originally Posted by RedBarchetta

Just DELETED that facebook account - sorry but if they are not giving me a way to use it that will not reveal my rel-life identity to ANYONE I absolutely do not want it as just that simple!

You know, just as aside, yesterday I was looking at web page and an ad for instantcheckmate or whatever was there. It occurred to me to look myself up.

So I went to the site. Of course they want money. So I go to leave the page...sign says 'hey wait, how about 5 days of unlimited searches for $1. Just cancel before being billed.'

Well, that stopped me for a second. I sat there in front of that screen for a good 15 minutes trying to figure out just how I felt about this sort of thing, and how far it would inevitably go.

Proudly (at least in my mind), I resisted, and solely based on principle, refused to participate in this whole idea that if one is not completely transparent, one is by default being deceptive.

I am sure, like everything else, it will all be mindlessly accepted by the masses, likely without most really even noticing.

Maybe this bothers me because I came from perhaps the last generation not to have to deal with most of the tools/things possible now, but I don't see too many other people my age (45) raising a ruckus.

[Lady Courtesan]

No predator book-ever.
No tweets, no interesting pins.
No favorites and I don't even know, or care what half those symbols mean.

They have us. They have our DNA, our gender, our phone number and sexual proclivities. They have us in little bitty drawers in cabinets that go on forever, just like in the x-files.

They know everything we do or say on the internet. They can spy on us and hear us through those innocuous little camera's you have by your computer. Just because you turn it off, doesn't mean it's off.

They can control the weather, cure cancer and bring back the Amazon jungle. It's just priviledged information.

Because if you're rich enough, you're not crazy. You're just colorful or quirky or you march to the beat of a different drummer. And your 72 hour holds are held in a cabana next to a swimming pool, where beautiful woman, or men, bring you drinks served in pineapples or coconut shells.

That's JMO anyway.

[LindaLu]

(Pardon use of second person, think "us")

The only reason drugs are illegal is so the ruling class and the police can fire you, stop you on the street, break down your door, lock you up. It's a tool to oppress people. If they cared about well being they'd regulate alcohol more. But there are capitalist interests in booze.

We've lost so much ground in the past 30 years for employees rights, despite window dressing of FMLA. if you're not driving a vehicle or operating machinery, drug use that's not impacting job performance it should be ignored.

We aren't headed toward one world government, we're headed toward corporate enslavement (Facebook, Google, Apple, BP, Monsanto...)

[Agarwaen]

Originally Posted by Lady Courtesan

No predator book-ever.
No tweets, no interesting pins.
No favorites and I don't even know, or care what half those symbols mean.

They have us. They have our DNA, our gender, our phone number and sexual proclivities. They have us in little bitty drawers in cabinets that go on forever, just like in the x-files.

They know everything we do or say on the internet. They can spy on us and hear us through those innocuous little camera's you have by your computer. Just because you turn it off, doesn't mean it's off.

They can control the weather, cure cancer and bring back the Amazon jungle. It's just priviledged information.

Because if you're rich enough, you're not crazy. You're just colorful or quirky or you march to the beat of a different drummer. And your 72 hour holds are held in a cabana next to a swimming pool, where beautiful woman, or men, bring you drinks served in pineapples or coconut shells.

That's JMO anyway.

Agreed. Mostly. I disagree about the weather, and the cure for cancer, and whatnot. My caveat: I don't have the information to draw my own conclusions.

I will agree, as for the weather, that we could avoid the slow death we are just starting to deal with now.

It's all about the $$$$$.