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I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this, I just thought to get someone's attention to the post I made in video section. It is a documentary video by the hardcore VICE guys. Human trafficking in Japan is a big issue, it has been for decades. Some ppl even go onto another country for sex tourism. Where human rights and respects are concerned, Japanese culture and its people are not what you may think they are.

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I've heard of such things but its not just in Japan, human trafficking happens in our own backyard and even when we take down a ring or organization, one more pops up in its place.

Its a shame, but as long as there is demand in it, then there were always be trafficking for it.
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I've seen this documentary before. It's sad but I guess they just do it so they can make money off these business men.

And I agree with Kharon97, if there is a demand for it, it's not gonna stop. I figure that's why they just legalized prostitution in Amsterdam. There's also a town here in the UK that had legalized it in a specific spot.

As for young girls doing it, I guess it's somewhat pedophile related, and that is a growing epidemic all over the world, pedophiles are very very common that it's scary, to the point that there is now multiple 'pedophile hunters' popping up all over the place.
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There are many a human trafficking ring in the US, usually made of women who are desperate to get out of their home country but have little to nothing and somehow wind up forced into the whole shebang through deception on the part of handlers. It often involves underaged girls, as disturbing as it is.
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Hi Takeshi. I feel like bad people are the majority everywhere, you know. It may be a bit pessimistic but that's the way I see it. Maybe it's my bad life experiences shaping my views but if there's one thing I've seen it's people don't tend to respect the vulnerable. They just don't, must be in our genes. It's all about power and success regardless of how it was achieved with extra points for lacking scruples and having managed not to get caught. But I think it's all countries, sadly. People just tend to express their evil in different ways. In the Third World it's through corruption and dictatorships, in other countries it may be through violence against women and children and in the west it's often through racism.

My mom is a European lady and when she first got to the U.S. she was upset by the role of race in this society. It's as if an individual's race is 99% central to who he is, then comes the other 1% (you know, the irrelevant stuff like his character, he's ethics, his values, his unique temperament). But if we're born in the U.S. or have lived in the U.S. since childhood we don't tend to realize just how bad things are, because this is normal reality. But to people from countries with different costumes it can be absolutely shocking. It's like the Aztecs and their religious human sacrifice, they were fine with it because it was how their society was organized. When another population showed up (the Spanish) who didn't share their values they were appalled
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I guess the 'hardcore VICE guys' neglected to mention that Japan is so thoroughly and irreversibly radioactive that human trafficking is the least of your problems, brother.
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I'm so sorry for being so irresponsible for my own thread, the original video has now some new additions... so I'm bumping this. I have important meeting coming up and I'm not prepared at all because my head got taken over by this subject again, I promise I find the time to come back here and do what I was supposed to do 2 months ago. I won't be sleeping anytime soon anyways, what the H. be back after some coffee.
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I guess the 'hardcore VICE guys' neglected to mention that Japan is so thoroughly and irreversibly radioactive that human trafficking is the least of your problems, brother.
Hide the fact, hide the fact! Can IAEA do the inspection? I don't watch the news anymore, but I do know that the things are far worse than they report, they always lie. I should find out how badly they are lying to us, I'll keep that in mind, call it out if you notice something fishy is going on across the pacific.
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I've heard of such things but its not just in Japan, human trafficking happens in our own backyard and even when we take down a ring or organization, one more pops up in its place.

Its a shame, but as long as there is demand in it, then there were always be trafficking for it.
It's not about the obvious pimping and hooking, the environment, the legal services they provide to feed the illegal activities. That's just gone too far in my opinions, in this shaming loving country, why don't they realized how they are behaving is so shameful?

It's the environment, really, I was at a mall the other day and there was this huge sign standing on the walk way, it was, I don't know what the advertisement was for, that was presented as just anime thing and one of the character in those was wearing this bikini, half naked, and was obviously to get attention from kids. If you didn't think that cafe was nothing to worry about, not a gateway to something else like the reporter was saying, I don't know what to tell you. I just don't agree with free market/free enterprise and what it does to these poor girls fate.
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There are many a human trafficking ring in the US, usually made of women who are desperate to get out of their home country but have little to nothing and somehow wind up forced into the whole shebang through deception on the part of handlers. It often involves underaged girls, as disturbing as it is.
wow why didn't I know this? Is this why the media is more obsessed talking about the kardashian sisters then what is really happening in the world? thats creeped the hell out!
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It's not about the obvious pimping and hooking, the environment, the legal services they provide to feed the illegal activities. That's just gone too far in my opinions, in this shaming loving country, why don't they realized how they are behaving is so shameful?

It's the environment, really, I was at a mall the other day and there was this huge sign standing on the walk way, it was, I don't know what the advertisement was for, that was presented as just anime thing and one of the character in those was wearing this bikini, half naked, and was obviously to get attention from kids. If you didn't think that cafe was nothing to worry about, not a gateway to something else like the reporter was saying, I don't know what to tell you. I just don't agree with free market/free enterprise and what it does to these poor girls fate.
I guess thats what they did in the anime spirited away that bathing scene that was about the children cleaning the others and getting paid was actually a subtle reference to the sex trafficing in Japan
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I've seen this documentary before. It's sad but I guess they just do it so they can make money off these business men.

And I agree with Kharon97, if there is a demand for it, it's not gonna stop. I figure that's why they just legalized prostitution in Amsterdam. There's also a town here in the UK that had legalized it in a specific spot.

As for young girls doing it, I guess it's somewhat pedophile related, and that is a growing epidemic all over the world, pedophiles are very very common that it's scary, to the point that there is now multiple 'pedophile hunters' popping up all over the place.
How badly does the society have to get to see all these young girls images advertised on a bag of chips nationwide? Legalized prostitution. I don't think I'm against that. Their workers right and the health precaution can be managed that way, any unwanted violence incidents could be prevented. Those industries has history and now it's modernized to fit the current society and its need. We can keep an eye on them.

The demand and the supply. I would not stand by and not say anything, I can't do that. The demand, the demanding animalistic, somehow immoral human behavior because of this free market system has ran its course, it has run amok! Literally killing and hurting women. I actually wondered if I'd ever be able to sell my body for surviving before, and the answer was no. The industry is popular and those girls are not educated, easy money. I'm not gonna work for McDonalds! They won't hire me anyways, don't mind the last part. I'm alone here typing this, I can feel falling on deaf ears, and I have nothing against deaf people.
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There are many a human trafficking ring in the US, usually made of women who are desperate to get out of their home country but have little to nothing and somehow wind up forced into the whole shebang through deception on the part of handlers. It often involves underaged girls, as disturbing as it is.
It is disturbing and scary at the same time, human trafficking worldwide is mostly controlled by big crime syndicate, and I don't know how effective interpol is for that sort of things. I need some stats for that. It just hurts to think about it, saying better than a decade ago don't mean much, it hurts the same, feels worse if we're not progressing at all in everyone's minds.

(Radiation's something more that I need to worry about? That was a large part an accident.)

I'm so against these things, now I even think mail order bride is a bad thing, too inventive or something....

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Hi Takeshi. I feel like bad people are the majority everywhere, you know. It may be a bit pessimistic but that's the way I see it. Maybe it's my bad life experiences shaping my views but if there's one thing I've seen it's people don't tend to respect the vulnerable. They just don't, must be in our genes. It's all about power and success regardless of how it was achieved with extra points for lacking scruples and having managed not to get caught. But I think it's all countries, sadly. People just tend to express their evil in different ways. In the Third World it's through corruption and dictatorships, in other countries it may be through violence against women and children and in the west it's often through racism.

My mom is a European lady and when she first got to the U.S. she was upset by the role of race in this society. It's as if an individual's race is 99% central to who he is, then comes the other 1% (you know, the irrelevant stuff like his character, he's ethics, his values, his unique temperament). But if we're born in the U.S. or have lived in the U.S. since childhood we don't tend to realize just how bad things are, because this is normal reality. But to people from countries with different costumes it can be absolutely shocking. It's like the Aztecs and their religious human sacrifice, they were fine with it because it was how their society was organized. When another population showed up (the Spanish) who didn't share their values they were appalled
Sorry for the late reply, I feel bad that I didn't get back to you any sooner, I really appreciate what you wrote up for me. The vulnerable, the poor. It's been years since I first heard the word 'the poverty eating business', that's just a rough translation from Japanese, some bad new businesses has popped up and they force the victims to pay up for the services like money lending, house rent or I don't remember what else, they make the customers cough up the money from any incomes including social security, I don't think anyone's selling their kidneys but the possibilities are there. Regular people like myself don't really know the dark side of the society, which are controlled by something like mafia types. Well, no point going on here actually, sometimes even the police force can't be relied upon so much...

Well, I have to agree with the first paragraph almost completely, the society's ill is there right where you said "lacking scruples". It's not all about power and success though. I think it comes from being in a scary vulnerable position and the survival genes or whatever in our heads tend to kick some part of the morality out of the window. The way we're going, the global warming will be getting less attentions, who knows those preppers could be right to have trained their kids with some emergency drills. Expressing evil in different ways, in their native ways, this sounds so true, doesn't it? kinda? I refuse to be dumbed down, I've had more than my share of dumbness from people, evil won't stand in our ways because we all share this one and only blue planet, let us simply live, and let live, someone twisted the world/word around in our history. Ain't that puzzling to me!

About the US immigration policy , who am I kidding? I'm not qualified to talk about that. I just wanna mention about this documentary that I watched years ago though. It was about America, don't remember whereabout. One was about these war refugees getting their residencies in the states, it was their first time to have a look see at those modern amenities, it was a loverly thing to watch, all because of those welcoming people. Another one was about these Chinese kids being adapted by some families and how they've grown up was shown in the program. I suppose true American will never forget about ellis island and its histories, they fought from the start, didn't they? hmm...

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I guess thats what they did in the anime spirited away that bathing scene that was about the children cleaning the others and getting paid was actually a subtle reference to the sex trafficing in Japan
I think you're reading too much into that, I'm not aware of your movie reference. Good going though, spread the word of this Aztec-own-people-sacrificing culture to the rest of the world, thanks.
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I guess the 'hardcore VICE guys' neglected to mention that Japan is so thoroughly and irreversibly radioactive that human trafficking is the least of your problems, brother.
Let me tell you at once. Mocking is not appreciated on my thread or on any of respectable PC members thread, I do not take it lightly.

Firstly, I used the word 'hardcore' because I do respect the job they do for the viewers/readers. They do investigative reports from all over the world focusing on world issues which often times main stream media neglect to mention in every day lives. Catchy news are not all there is to it when it comes to the important issues of the world we live in. There is also a fact that many of the country's(Japan's) secret are not well known to outsiders view, even to its own people, I'd guess that it'd be difficult to get in and report on them, especially for foreign medias. Therefore, I praise and respect their job as good journalists, they are educational and useful tool for me to understand and try to help the world peace.

Secondly, don't tell me what I consider my problem is. That's none of your business at all. You need to learn something, respect the OP. I wouldn't have minded that if you were to talk about the irreversibly radioactive part of the soil, if, only if you had something to add to the discussion/opinions of other members including my own, apparently you failed to do that.

Human trafficking and sex trade relates to human rights issues and by showing and shedding lights on the societal problem on this little island country, I'd hope people would understand that sexual abuse or any kind of abuse and the damages that could cause to a person can not be overlooked anywhere, or however. Those videos including what I added today will show you the picture of victimization that's been happening in Japan, these includes the wrong doing that's been caused by people with the knowledge that they are causing other human beings a harm. A harm that is mentally and physically often times irrevocably and irreversibly damaging to a person, would you not consider this more fitting to PsychCentral?

A nuclear plant accident caused by a natural disaster does not, in any ways, compared to the exploitation of women kind, they are the future. I consider them two different issues entirely. The past will tell us that the industrial accident will be studied and the new designs and safety precautions/procedures will be improved upon for the next time round, after all, the men, women and children, all of them are to be affected equally in this matter.

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If it's not a story that attracts viewers/readers/listeners, most media outlets aren't going to report it. Most people don't want facts or hard truths; they want glamour and fairy-tales. Gotta give the public what they want.

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If it's not a story that attracts viewers/readers/listeners, most media outlets aren't going to report it. Most people don't want facts or hard truths; they want glamour and fairy-tales. Gotta give the public what they want.
So you're saying public are stupid, I hear loud and clear, thank you very much.

To the salesman, I don't know whatcha selling, till I know the truth, the whole truth, I won't be buying anything from anyone. Sorry about the harsh attack, it's all 'the bridge under the water', the water get polluted, fish get weird diseases, it's really a current event stuff really, if you ever find out something like big cover-up of this whole mess, we as a citizen of this planet have to have a say, wherever and whenever you deem appropriate. You could consider emailing the VICE team about your opinions, as for me though, what's not to rave about getting super power off of this radiation!

I kinda wanna mention a bit off topic stuff here, does anyone remember Chernobyl residents going back there and not wanting to leave and stuff? I'm just trying to remind everyone that it's not all about how disastrous it was, who's fault it was or how much level of radiation is in the air/seawater/food. How we act and react to any situations imaginable and unimaginable, the peace of mind and the readiness has to come from within.

I'm not really worrying type any more, there's been this stigmatization of produces from that area, out side of evacuated zone, of course. Here's a vegetable from Fukushima, supposedly safe, being checked for radiation, knowing how others might react, overreact, I'd buy that produce without hesitation.

The nature of our society is not kind. For these girls in the video being not be able to come out and say what had been done to them, and the radiation scare the heck out of people. As I see it, the groundwork to make our society better has been done centuries ago, long before the idiot box was invented. The megaton blast let the ashes to fall to the ground, the work to keep cultivating the authentic human nature to coexist with others peacefully continues...
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Hmm. I'm not sure I'd use the term "stupid"* to describe the general. Misinformed, for sure! And perhaps ignorant. But I believe most people are aware of the condition of our world and they choose to bury their heads in the sand.

*Yeah, I'd use that term but shh, don't tell anyone!
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Hmm. I'm not sure I'd use the term "stupid"* to describe the general. Misinformed, for sure! And perhaps ignorant. But I believe most people are aware of the condition of our world and they choose to bury their heads in the sand.

*Yeah, I'd use that term but shh, don't tell anyone!
Thanks for the language lessons there, to me, it doesn't make much of a difference, some people tend to go for stupid misinformed mass opinions no matter what, like that makes their moral standing is right, they'd feel that they are being called stupid anyways and sometimes express those discomfort. I don't go around point 'em out, I go around minding my own business, and **** gets thrown on top of me.

The head in the sand expression, let me correct that, if I may. They get their heads so far up in the *insert your favorite tushie word here*, bet they are feeling good for doing that. I claim immunity against being mind ****ed for just existing in this world, I won't give out consent easily no more, so I could earn my peace.

Japanese culture, it consists of its people. On top atrocity they keep orchestrating centuries after centuries, they are also cruel to animals, before they study other ape family in captivity, they need to learn that they are R rated APE themselves, why did I even wake up this morning?? ugh!

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I understand not being proud of one's own culture. Many of my foreign friends are like "American culture is so amazing!!!1!" and sometimes I feel like saying to them, "If only you knew all that has happened in the country's history."

Japan does have atrocities in her past. The culture is far from perfect. But that doesn't take away from the amazing, colorful uniqueness of your culture. When I visited Kyoto while I was an exchange student in Korea a million years ago, I was blown away by the beauty and the kindness shown to me. I was well aware of what was done by the Japanese during WWII and other things but that didn't color my experience.

Every culture has blemishes. I can't think of a country or culture that can claim it hasn't done something crappy. But each of them remains beautiful. I hope you can find some peace concerning your culture. Don't be so hard on yourself!
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