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Old Aug 28, 2016, 02:44 PM
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I'm just fuming. My grandma who is in her 80s was at the YMCA and someone broke open her locker, took her car keys and wallet , and stole her car. Wtf is wrong with people?! Her car was a lease so I'm wondering what the dealership will do. Are they going to replace it? I feel horrible for her and she's very upset. Luckily my family went over there to keep her company. I wish I could but my car isn't running.

Just wtf is wrong with society these days?!

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Old Aug 28, 2016, 03:25 PM
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That's really horrible. People can be so awful sometimes. Glad your family was able to go visit her.

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Old Aug 28, 2016, 06:46 PM
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How sad. I'm sorry that happened to your grandma.
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Old Aug 28, 2016, 06:55 PM
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Old Aug 28, 2016, 08:06 PM
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I'm glad she's alright. My mom got mugged in front of the mall. The guy grabbed her purse that was hanging on her shoulder and dragged her with the car until the purse got off her.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 03:51 AM
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 04:14 AM
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Unbelievable. What scumbags. May karma bite them in the bum when they least expect it.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 08:06 AM
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That is absolutely horrid behavior. So sorry that she is going through this. What a nightmare.

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Old Aug 29, 2016, 09:32 AM
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Will the insurance cover it? Was it found? Is she okay?
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 11:02 AM
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Will the insurance cover it? Was it found? Is she okay?


It wasn't found. She's going to the dealership today to see what they're going to do.

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Old Aug 29, 2016, 02:33 PM
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I'm just fuming. My grandma who is in her 80s was at the YMCA and someone broke open her locker, took her car keys and wallet , and stole her car. Wtf is wrong with people?! Her car was a lease so I'm wondering what the dealership will do. Are they going to replace it? I feel horrible for her and she's very upset. Luckily my family went over there to keep her company. I wish I could but my car isn't running.

Just wtf is wrong with society these days?!

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I sincerely hope my response will not add to your anger. I say this with good intentions. If it seems like I'm poking fun at you or trolling, please look deeper

The simplicity of the present moment is that, where there was a car, there is now empty space. Such is the fleeting nature of forms in the world of form

Nothing in the world of form is permanent: health, good looks, jobs, money, relationships, houses, cars, wallets.

When we take these things for granted and hold on to them tightly is when we get hurt most.

Also, what the thief did is really none of your concern, nor is it in your control. You have much less control over the events of the world than you think you do.

*** Trigger warning: *** It's not the car being gone that's the problem. It's your expectation (and resulting emotions) that people should not steal, and your illusion of control over that, that's the problem.

So says Eckhart Tolle.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 02:40 PM
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I sincerely hope my response will not add to your anger. I say this with good intentions. If it seems like I'm poking fun at you or trolling, please look deeper

The simplicity of the present moment is that, where there was a car, there is now empty space. Such is the fleeting nature of forms in the world of form

Nothing in the world of form is permanent: health, good looks, jobs, money, relationships, houses, cars, wallets.

When we take these things for granted and hold on to them tightly is when we get hurt most.

Also, what the thief did is really none of your concern, nor is it in your control. You have much less control over the events of the world than you think you do.

*** Trigger warning: *** It's not the car being gone that's the problem. It's your expectation (and resulting emotions) that people should not steal that's the problem.

So says Eckhart Tolle.


Obviously it's beyond my control but to say my response is not normal is not sitting with me well. This happened to my grandma and she's left shaken, upset etc. All her belongings and credit cards were taken and yes these things can be replaced but it hurt me to see my gma so shaken and upset. My emotions that people shouldn't steal are a problem?! People shouldn't steal so how is it not a problem?

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Old Aug 29, 2016, 02:47 PM
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Obviously it's beyond my control but to say my response is not normal is not sitting with me well. This happened to my grandma and she's left shaken, upset etc. All her belongings and credit cards were taken and yes these things can be replaced but it hurt me to see my gma so shaken and upset. My emotions that people shouldn't steal are a problem?! People shouldn't steal so how is it not a problem?

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I didn't say your response is not normal. It is perfectly normal, but it's not helping you.

I didn't say people stealing is a good thing. It's a bad thing, but are you in a position to make sure it never happens ? If not, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. You are hinging your happiness on things you have no control over - i.e., the actions of other people.

It's like you're giving others a remote control with buttons, each of which has a button labeled with the name of an emotion. "Anger" "Jealousy" "Sadness" "Disappointment", etc. And, anytime someone does something bad, they are able to hurt you with their actions.

That's what I mean. I'm not invalidating your feelings. There are no invalid feelings.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 04:09 PM
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Look, all I'm doing is venting my frustrations with society these days, or at least in my area. I'm going to stand up to my right to be pissed that others can be so cruel. Of course I can't stop them but that wasn't my point in this thread. Clearly I'm not the police

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Old Aug 29, 2016, 04:16 PM
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I didn't say your response is not normal. It is perfectly normal, but it's not helping you.

I didn't say people stealing is a good thing. It's a bad thing, but are you in a position to make sure it never happens ? If not, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. You are hinging your happiness on things you have no control over - i.e., the actions of other people.

It's like you're giving others a remote control with buttons, each of which has a button labeled with the name of an emotion. "Anger" "Jealousy" "Sadness" "Disappointment", etc. And, anytime someone does something bad, they are able to hurt you with their actions.

That's what I mean. I'm not invalidating your feelings. There are no invalid feelings.
Respectfully,

You're not her therapist and I do not think this is helpful. It may not be on purpose, but your posts do seem invalidating. Best regards.

To the OP, you and your family are in my thoughts.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 04:20 PM
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I sincerely hope my response will not add to your anger. I say this with good intentions. If it seems like I'm poking fun at you or trolling, please look deeper

The simplicity of the present moment is that, where there was a car, there is now empty space. Such is the fleeting nature of forms in the world of form

Nothing in the world of form is permanent: health, good looks, jobs, money, relationships, houses, cars, wallets.

When we take these things for granted and hold on to them tightly is when we get hurt most.

Also, what the thief did is really none of your concern, nor is it in your control. You have much less control over the events of the world than you think you do.

*** Trigger warning: *** It's not the car being gone that's the problem. It's your expectation (and resulting emotions) that people should not steal, and your illusion of control over that, that's the problem.

So says Eckhart Tolle.
Your first two sentences speak volumes. And your need to post a trigger warning to her when she needs support? Really? Please stop.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 04:22 PM
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I understand what you're saying ImmerAllein, and I can see how it can be helpful, but really? Sometimes empathy is all that is called for.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 07:11 PM
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It all comes down to the insurance. Even home insurance should cover this as theft of property
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 08:06 PM
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How horrible that someone would take advantage of an elderly woman and steal her belongings when she wasn't looking!!! Some people have no respect for anyone save themselves these days. I'm glad that she is safe, and that all the thug(s) did was take her things. Things could have been a lot worse if they were being more aggressive in their thefts.

Your fury at the thief(s) is well founded. I would be nothing short of wanting to pound them into oblivion if they took something from my grandmother. Our grandparents come from a different time, a time where trust and faith were still a thing. Now a days you can't be too safe and secure anymore.

May your dearly beloved grandmother find some semblance of peace, as difficult as it may be right now for her, and be able to find a feasible solution to the stolen car problem.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 08:17 PM
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I understand what you're saying ImmerAllein, and I can see how it can be helpful, but really? Sometimes empathy is all that is called for.
Got it. I will say no more.
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No moral values being taught at home or at school is the underlying reasons for the direction society is going. No care for others or sense of how ones behavior effects anyone else, only thinking of ones own wants & pleasures....sadly is the direction much of society is focused on. Its sad. I wish there was a solution people were willing to listen to & accept. It is very sad to see your grandmother be effected by uncaring people like this.

My grandfather had his car stolen from him out of the church parking lot while he was in church....no ground is hallow from the ills of society. I definitely understand the sadness of the situation....also the hassles evet though covered by insurance, it doesnt fix the feeling of ones life being invaded in that way.
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Old Sep 02, 2016, 09:03 AM
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I explained to two different people my financial situation, that I am on a meager disability. Both turned around, ignorred that, and tried to sell me the most expensive tv/internet package they have. Finally I reached a fellow who put me in upgraded package for only $6 more than what I'm paying now ($66 per month as opposed to $250 per month).

Why can people be so oblivious. Why can people be actually hurtful to their own end (I'm sure they are on commission which is why the fiirst two human $%%^s ignorred what I said. They didn't care about anything other than their own profits).
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Ugh, I am so sorry that happened. My dads wallet was stolen from him in an elevator. He had Alzheimer's. It really shook him and it made me so angry and sad. People who prey on others have no moral compass or humanity. It's all about them and opportunity. To them, they probably had a great day when they make a score like that.

I just gently helped my dad recoup his cards etc.... And was very loving and sympathetic. It was not the material loss but the loss of control and feeling vulnerable.

And there was your g'ma at the Y probably doing something good for herself! My dad was at a doctors appt.

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