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Old Feb 28, 2017, 09:19 AM
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Trump is talking crack down on the states with legalized pot. I think it should be legalized nationwide because- if not people who use it will get it from the same drug dealers they've always got it from. Legalizing it would 'help' subdue drug dealers, bring in tax money, and 'help' keep minors from associating with the drug dealers.

Cons: Critics of this position say because of increased availability more people will use it but this is not supported by research done in Amsterdam Netherlands.

Some data from Oregon shows increased traffic fatalities after legalization.

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Old Feb 28, 2017, 11:20 AM
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Is this truly a federal government issue or does this belong as a state issue?

Studies show there is an increased fatality rate of teenagers overdosing by eating more than the recommended dose of candy. They will buy chocolate bars or gummy bears and while the directions say to eat one piece of the chocolate bar or one gummy bear, instead they'll eat the whole chocolate bar or the whole bag of gummy bears. The amount of THC in these edibles are higher because unlike smoking marijuana where the THC gets burned off, the THC remains the same in the edibles not only producing a stronger "high" but a higher likeliness of an overdose.

As for traffic fatalities and issues, police officers are now able to arrest someone for DUI while under the influence of marijuana, and it won't be long before they find a suitable means of gauging the level of toxicity of the marijuana in one's system just like gauging for alcohol.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 11:30 AM
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I agree completely!!!

The mistake Washington state made when they legalized, was putting the liquor control board in charge. Yea, they did such a stellar job with liquor that it's in the grocery store now.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 12:21 PM
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Personally I have no problem with it. Medicinal is legal here in Canada and relatively easy to get. But, don't forget, that medicinal and recreational are not the same.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 07:36 PM
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I thought country wide leaglization would come up during Trump's admin.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 07:44 PM
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It's long over due and as soon as the government has their own pals in
place and they have everything under control they will legalize it.
How can booze be legal and marijuana not be.
It makes no sense but we are talking about corrupt politicians.
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Old Mar 01, 2017, 10:50 AM
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Trump is talking crack down on the states with legalized pot. I think it should be legalized nationwide because- if not people who use it will get it from the same drug dealers they've always got it from. Legalizing it would 'help' subdue drug dealers, bring in tax money, and 'help' keep minors from associating with the drug dealers.

Cons: Critics of this position say because of increased availability more people will use it but this is not supported by research done in Amsterdam Netherlands.

Some data from Oregon shows increased traffic fatalities after legalization.
I forgot to mention the munchie thing. I use the erb often in moderation but still I don't see anything constructive about it. One main objection is eating mindlessly just before bed. Then comes the weight gain or at least not being able to reach the weight you desire. Add to that the decreased mental energy-and that's not just when you are high-it kind of stays with you. There's no way this can be good for a kid growing up. Weed is an overall degenerating thing. Those who don't agree probably have no goals in life and are happy working some factory job and watching tv. And that's because they are afraid to try, full of doubt and excuses.
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Old Mar 01, 2017, 11:06 AM
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There's no way this can be good for a kid growing up. Weed is an overall degenerating thing. Those who don't agree probably have no goals in life and are happy working some factory job and watching tv. And that's because they are afraid to try, full of doubt and excuses.
So you want to legalize but think those who use it are degenerates? What?!
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Old Mar 01, 2017, 11:21 AM
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some faulty logic here. or an alternate fact. yours is an overgeneralization. go smoke some.
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Old Mar 01, 2017, 11:38 AM
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some faulty logic here. or an alternate fact. yours is an overgeneralization. go smoke some.
If you want to debate, have some facts readily available.
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Old Mar 01, 2017, 11:39 AM
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Why start a thread on wanting to legalize marijuana if you make assumptions and overgeneralizations on faulty stereotypes that those who smoke are degenerates?
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Old Mar 01, 2017, 05:58 PM
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I forgot to mention the munchie thing. I use the erb often in moderation but still I don't see anything constructive about it. One main objection is eating mindlessly just before bed. Then comes the weight gain or at least not being able to reach the weight you desire. Add to that the decreased mental energy-and that's not just when you are high-it kind of stays with you. There's no way this can be good for a kid growing up. Weed is an overall degenerating thing. Those who don't agree probably have no goals in life and are happy working some factory job and watching tv. And that's because they are afraid to try, full of doubt and excuses.
Did you post this just to start crap, looking for an argument?
This is a pretty f**ked up thing to say.
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I forgot to mention the munchie thing. I use the erb often in moderation but still I don't see anything constructive about it. One main objection is eating mindlessly just before bed. Then comes the weight gain or at least not being able to reach the weight you desire. Add to that the decreased mental energy-and that's not just when you are high-it kind of stays with you. There's no way this can be good for a kid growing up. Weed is an overall degenerating thing. Those who don't agree probably have no goals in life and are happy working some factory job and watching tv. And that's because they are afraid to try, full of doubt and excuses.


Wow that's just a post full of rhetoric nonsense. Alternative facts fueled by decades of demonizing marijuana that was fear mongering propaganda. Instead of watching a psa try reading one of the dozens of actual scientific studies about the medical benefits and properties of thc including cancer treatments, seizure prevention, mental health benefits, etc. Please educate yourself.
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Old Mar 01, 2017, 10:39 PM
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Also remember that Bill Gates is a self proclaimed stoner. Not exactly the lump you are describing.
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Old Mar 01, 2017, 11:17 PM
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Legalize it. Allow medical researchers to use it.
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I forgot to mention the munchie thing. I use the erb often in moderation but still I don't see anything constructive about it. One main objection is eating mindlessly just before bed. Then comes the weight gain or at least not being able to reach the weight you desire. Add to that the decreased mental energy-and that's not just when you are high-it kind of stays with you. There's no way this can be good for a kid growing up. Weed is an overall degenerating thing. Those who don't agree probably have no goals in life and are happy working some factory job and watching tv. And that's because they are afraid to try, full of doubt and excuses.
There actually have been studies done that prove a developing mind of an adolescent can sustain permanent damage from pot smoking. It also causes and/or exacerbates mental illness.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicatio...nicating-risks
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Old Mar 03, 2017, 02:28 AM
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Y'all can argue all you want about whether it's good or bad, or whether medicinal or recreational legalization is the purview of state or federal legislation, but marijuana is already illegal under federal law. Obama didn't seem to care very much and told Holder to back off prosecution in states which had legalized it, but this cretin AG Sessions has expressed intentions of enforcing marijuana prohibition nationwide regardless of state laws, and the minute he decides to do so, say goodbye to your legal weed. It's already federal law. Why would Trump rein him in?

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Old Mar 03, 2017, 02:35 AM
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I think sessions has bigger worries now. Da.
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Old Mar 03, 2017, 06:18 AM
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The obvious middle ground for me (and what some of the science seems to say) is the pot should be legalized nationwide for medical purposes. It is riduculous that it is classified as a Schedule 1 drug which says it is more dangerous than Schedule 2 drugs like Percocet. For me, Percocet is much more addictive than pot. Also, I think alcohol causes a lot more bad behavior than pot. People are just "nicer" on pot but occassionally, people can get abusive when they are drunk. Don't you just hate it when people are abusive?
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Old Mar 03, 2017, 06:49 AM
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Also, having experienced quite a bit of pain--it provides a moderate amount of pain relief but also quite a bit of distraction from pain. Sometimes pain can be neverending and only stops when you are completely out. Mental distraction (including laughter and love) is one of the best tools for coping with pain. There is potential to abuse so many drugs but if you are in a car accident, suffering from a painful disease, etc., don't you want to have many tools available to you to relieve your suffering?
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Old Mar 03, 2017, 08:46 AM
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Yes legalize it at least for med research and use as the evidence shows. And if you want to use it go ahead. I've been using it since 1965 regularly.
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Old Mar 03, 2017, 09:26 AM
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I voted to make it legal here twice. 1st was for medical. 2nd was for recreational. Treat it like alcohol. Know how many times I was carded for alcohol when I was legal? Every damn time I went to buy beer.

Sessions will order his minions to go after legal mary jane and no mater what his problems are, they will comply.
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Old Mar 03, 2017, 01:43 PM
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Sessions is a pile of dirt.
Do the powers that be keep it illegal just to keep the jails full ?
Its unreal that people can steal millions of dollars and walk away with
a slap on the wrist but if a person smokes pot they go to jail.
Further proof that laws are just for little people.
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Sessions is a pile of dirt.
Do the powers that be keep it illegal just to keep the jails full ?
Its unreal that people can steal millions of dollars and walk away with
a slap on the wrist but if a person smokes pot they go to jail.
Further proof that laws are just for little people.


Don't forget only 3 moths in jail for sexual assault but we gotta lock up the stoners because reasons.
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