[Michael2Wolves]

So I came across this little gem in my ramblings and figured I'd share. I was already paranoid about Facebook. Now, it looks like I was right to be.

Also, please consider the following:

9 trillion came up in missing in 2003-2004 under the watchful eye of HUD and the US Army through off-balance sheet transactions that the Federal Reserve Inspector General at the time herself said that they had no authority to audit. This happens right around the same time that the NSA snoop facility in Utah is being drawn up and facebook's popularity explodes.

The lesson here is this: Always use a VPN, never post any real information about yourself, much less your photos, on Facebook, unless you want to contribute to the NSA's profile on you.

[Skeezyks]

Well... I'm not on Facebook... or Twitter... or anything like that. But I would have to say that if the NSA or anyone else in the government doesn't have anything better to do than to spy on me, the world must be in pretty-darned good shape!

[Michael2Wolves]

They're not spying, looking for wrong-doing. They're collecting data sets. They want to be able to control what you do. Don't believe me? Watch this one:

Did you even watch the first video? What do you think this:



is for?

This is a reality: Your government intelligence agencies at the highest level are listening to, parsing, cataloging, and filing everything you do and say in any online communication. Why do you think there's this big push to VOIP with 5G networks, now? And what's a better form of data collection than Facebook? Nearly everyone in the world who has access to the internet has a facebook page. All of it gets routed through PRISM and that facility in Utah that has it's own man-made lake to cool the huge air conditioning units it uses. It has it's own town, it's own power plant, and is bigger than an amazon fulfillment center.

Big Brother is here.

[marvin_pa]

Big brother has been here for many years...

If you have a bank account, a credit record, or any other form of registration that can be electronically searched/tracked, then the powers-that-be are likely quite aware of your existence already.

Now, I'm not saying that there's no reason to be cautious where your personal data ends up & I certainly wouldn't blame anyone for avoiding a glorified data mining service like fb - but its also worth considering that just about anything you currently do on the net is building a data profile of you somewhere for someone, be that governmental agencies, black hat crooks, or anyone who can use your data to make a buck. Even a VPN only gives you an extra layer of encryption between you & the other VPN endpoint - beyond that endpoint, that encryption ends & then there's the potential for backdoors into the encryption, itself.

Be careful with your data, but don't get too paranoid about it either - as with most things in life, every action involves a (hopefully conscious) calculation of risk vs gain.

Now, excuse me - I've got to go enter my SSN on some random webpage for a chance to win the latest iWotsit...

[downandlonely]

I'm pretty sure the government knows everything about me, and I really don't care. I don't have anything to hide. I have to admit, it was a little creepy when Facebook showed me an ad for a fertility clinic, because they know I'm over 35 and childless. That felt a bit invasive. But yeah, the CIA can find out anything they want about you. I don't think there's any real way to hide.

[*Laurie*]

I think that the US government has far more sinister plans than tracking people on Facebook.

[Michael2Wolves]

I have no doubt you are right, Laurie, for one simple reason.

Oil is running out. There's an annual 9% decrease in total output in the world every year. They knew they were going to run out back in the 40s and in 2000, the CIA knew because **** Cheney helmed the National Energy Taskforce, the documents from which he to this day has refused to release, and is in contempt of a supreme court ruling. The few papers from that meeting that have come out have been heavily redacted and pointed to the CIA looking at oil reserves and which countries had them.

You may think, oh, well, oil will trickle out, and we'll see it coming.

Wrong. At current consumption, our strategic reserves would last about eleven days. When oil runs out (and that's the only thing propping up the dollar), within a week, all of civilization will grind to a halt because oil is in everything:

-fertilizers
-pesticides
-antibacterials
-food prep
-farming
-food distribution

The list goes on and on. Natural gas is no panacea, either. They are shooting highly toxic things into the ground for fracking, such as depleted uranium, then extracting the oil shale with benzen and all these other highly poisonous substances to get bitumin, which is even more toxic.

There were around 1 billion people on earth before the discovery of oil. That means almost 7 billion people are the result of the growth that occurred from oil.

This will happen in our lifetime. It may not happen this year or next, but it's coming. And then the governments will try to really control who gets it. Start stockpiling food, water, and toilet paper. Dry goods, canned goods, MREs. Make sure you can defend yourself.

This is why they want control of facebook--they'll know where everyone is since they all use messenger, and all the other facebook integrated apps. They'll know where everyone will be since everyone just broadcasts all their personal information to the world at large.

Why? Why do they want it? Because of Inslaw, who designed a program called Prosecutorial Managment Information System, or PROMIS. This program is hard to discuss without the common reaction being incredulity and disbelief, but mark my words, it is real, and it is being used to predict human behavior, among other things.

Promis

This is by Michael Ruppert, and those of you unfamiliar with him should watch his

series and his movie

on YouTube.

Unless we adapt immediately, and I mean, hail Mary, midnight deathbed conversion adaptation, humanity is going to go extinct. The government knows it, which is why they are desperately trying to throw money and technology at the problem, and now you know their secret.

[greentires4me]

Yes I read 1984 in high school it really talks about 1948 and big brother already full in swing. Every government is watching within its own borders as well as watching abroad and sharing information with each other. We are numbers to them we all have personal identification numbers and lots of them. Like a drivers licence/ID, SIN, passport, bank card, credit card, address, IP address, bills, insurance, age, date of birth and so on. We are not without a number none of this is new at all.

No matter where you go in the world they may have a different system but it’s all based on the same thing.

There have been several things shown that we no longer need oil/gas for our cars but big industries don’t want to hear it hurts their bottom dollar. If we go after that industry then I guess we should include the dairy/cattle and the airplane plus many others.

We are already sinking ships as G7 countries destroying everything as we see fit. Even the environment in our wake. It’s lovely fun (being sarcastic here) to watch as we destroy ourselves and our environments like our fore fathers set out to clear it for themselves encamping those who were here first giving them cholera to kill them off.

There is lots of mistakes history isn’t as forgiving as some of us are now. That being said I am assured they see what is said here even if they cannot comment on it.

[Michael2Wolves]

It seems my predictions are spot-on. I told you I was right! Facebook is now unleashing "Portal," to compete with Skype, and why, you may ask, does that matter? Because it brings in people who might be using other cut-rate programs like Discord and TeamViewer, and brings in the viewers who already use Messenger. Then, not only will the NSA be able to listen in, they'll be able to watch you, too, because--say it with me:

The NSA monitors every single electronic communication in the world via PRISM and the facility in Utah.

Britain has ECHELON. And now, Australia introduced a law that essentially weakens our protection and privacy because it allows any traffic to come through them and servers in Australia to be spied upon easily by foreign governments. Where do you think all those Facebook Portal calls are going to be routed through?

Wake up, people. Take your photos off facebook, delete your old profiles and fill them with nothing but b.s. The people who know you will know you, but don't tell them who you are via any communication device that is electronic.

Read Crossing The Rubicon: The End of the Age of Oil and the American Empire by Michael C. Ruppert. Open your ears so you may hear. Open your eyes so you may see. Shut them out.

#shutouttheNSA #facebooksucks #upyourszuckerberg

[Medusax]

I don't care what they know. I have nothing to hide and if they figure out that I am a tree-hugging dirt-worshipper who loves plants and animals, oh well.........

[TishaBuv]

The kicker is being the little pigeons we are, we entered all our information ourselves.

Mostly they use it to sell us stuff.

The other day I said, not typed, the name of a brand of liquor and when I logged on Facebook a few minutes later there was an ad for it on my wall! The phone is listening!

[Michael2Wolves]

Welcome to the Internet of Things. I wonder if there's ever been any movies about things like this, where everything is listening...?

THX1138
Soylent Green
Logan's Run
2001
Minority Report
Demolition Man
1984

...nah, probably not, right? I mean, *scoffs nervously* that's crazy, right?

...right?

Facebook: The NSA Is Listening

I would hope so. That's what we pay them to do.

[Michael2Wolves]

Originally Posted by Frank Crankshaft

I would hope so. That's what we pay them to do.

[LiteraryLark]

Originally Posted by Frank Crankshaft

I would hope so. That's what we pay them to do.

Good one, hahaha!

My girlfriend is a conspiracy theorist and it drives me up the wall. It's not cute. And no, it doesn't enlighten me. It just sends me a neon flashing light in my radar with the image of some crazed homeless guy protesting, "The End is Near".

What makes you think PC is safe? Did you not see the giant PC link to hand over all of your social media information a couple months ago? Do you not know that ANYONE and EVERYONE has access to all of what we post, we, the mentally ill, the perceived violent and incapable? And what do you think people do with our information, the list of meds we leave in our signature, the trials and tribulations we vent and rant about here, the secrets we leave "anonymously" in hope for some sort of validation we can't get in the real world? There is nothing true about being anonymous on the internet because there is nothing we can do anonymously on the internet. Nothing. If you're afraid of FB, be very afraid of the web browser you're using, your google search bar, and the webcam on your laptop...I personally like to pick my nose in front of my webcam to make the FBI agent assigned to me disgusted with himself that he got stuck with me of all people to watch. I'm real fun to watch.

[TishaBuv]

Really...ha! If someone wants to watch my face while I type in the web cam that’s their problem! I don’t even want to look at myself. My own family doesn’t give a rat’s *** what I write on here about them. If Big Brother wants to use my rants let them knock themselves out.

I am another who doesnt really care. Even if I got rid of all my electronics, I still use them at work. Google maps takes pictures. The census tracks us as well as our social insurance number (canada). People have cameras on their houses and phones. Unless you go completely off the grid, and even then, you will be monitored.

Monitor away. I care not.

[marvin_pa]

[Michael2Wolves]

The point is not that you aren't doing anything wrong, the point is that they shouldn't be watching in the first place. Don't confuse apathy and complacency with moral right. The fact is, the PATRIOT Act gutted our constitutional rights and made giving police departments military equipment the new normal.

Therefore, I'd argue that we have a moral and ethical obligation as Americans to do everything we can to thwart the government from spying on us unnecessarily.

Originally Posted by Michael2Wolves

The point is not that you aren't doing anything wrong, the point is that they shouldn't be watching in the first place. Don't confuse apathy and complacency with moral right. The fact is, the PATRIOT Act gutted our constitutional rights and made giving police departments military equipment the new normal.

Therefore, I'd argue that we have a moral and ethical obligation as Americans to do everything we can to thwart the government from spying on us unnecessarily.

Do you think the world would be a safer place if people weren't monitored?

[Michael2Wolves]

That's going above and beyond monitoring. When you're under surveillance 24/7 by the NSA, something is wrong.

Facebook makes me more and more paranoid. I'm very tempted to burn my cover there and start a new one.

Originally Posted by Michael2Wolves

That's going above and beyond monitoring. When you're under surveillance 24/7 by the NSA, something is wrong.

Facebook makes me more and more paranoid. I'm very tempted to burn my cover there and start a new one.

What are you paranoid they are doing with your info? Or does it just bother you that they have it? Honest questions because I really dont understand. I assume everything I do is monitored. Back in high school (20 years ago) we had camera and metal detectors. I was oblivious because I wasnt doing anything that I needed to hide.

[Michael2Wolves]

Having the government monitor you in public via metal detectors and cameras in government buildings is one thing. Operating (illegally, I might add) a massive intelligence gathering operation in utter secrecy as a public social media company is another entirely. I didn't invite the government in to examine my personal life under a microscope to see if I fit some bureaucrat's definition of subversive. The right to privacy is a very important right.

[MuseumGhost]

I understand your concerns, Michael. But we are still fortunate to enjoy the most freedom and personal decision-making-power out of just about anywhere else in the world, living where we live (in free North America).

I have to agree with everyone else here...the most they're going to find out about me (strictly speaking) is that I'm terribly uninteresting. And so are my health issues, if my own closest family is any indication of how fascinating I am.

If I try and take on problems that large, well, I quickly become overwhelmed. It's too much like a sci-fi movie nightmare that I have no power to influence, or end.

I'd be willing to bet that the facilities you've read about really are there for National (and Global) Security reasons.

If anyone starts treading on our personal freedoms, however, you will then see a groundswell movement that would astonish all historians for all time. Brave people are protesting those very things almost every day, every week, and weekend in the U.S. Capital and elsewhere. People ARE paying attention to what matters.

Election Day is coming soon and nothing will keep me from doing my American best, even if I am relatively far from home. I do still believe the country of my birth still has my best interests at heart (not the politicians, but the Country as it stands, the People.)

Be careful what you give your time and energy and attention to. It can ruin your day, and sap much-needed energy away from matters at hand.