[thehermit]

Does anyone have aching pain in your bones? Not pain from standing too long, sitting too long, or exercise, but a deep constant ache in your bones. Could it be a psych med side effect? What kind of pains can depression cause?

[lifelesstraveled]

Originally Posted by thehermit

Does anyone have aching pain in your bones? Not pain from standing too long, sitting too long, or exercise, but a deep constant ache in your bones. Could it be a psych med side effect? What kind of pains can depression cause?

hi there!

Have you noticed any other symptoms? any fatigue---not necessarily sleepy, but you just want to rest your body? Weight gain? Muscle cramps? Restless sleep? Joint pain? Headaches?

I ask because I had VERY VERY low vitamin d levels--the avg is about 40 or higher, but mine was 8! I was very achy, had muscle cramps, could not sleep at all, no weight gain bc I was exercising, but the weight wasn't coming off either and I was wondering why. And it even can cause depressive symptoms (so I've been told).

Depression can also cause aches and pains. I've been on anti depressants (celexa and lexapro) and didn't experience aches, but everyone is different.

If you can, go to the doctors and tell him/her your symptoms. I'm sure they will do blood work, but make sure you ask for them to check your vitamin D levels. I was in pain for almost 2 years before they thought to check mine. I've been on a prescription vitamin and have been taking over the counter supplements for the last 6 weeks and i feel soooo much better.

I hope you feel better soon

[thehermit]

I know 2 people who had low levels of vitamin D & felt horrible. I do have the fatigue where my bod just runs out of energy & I just can't keep going until I rest. In fact, I have most of what you described except weight gain, but don't know what joint pain would feel like. Since I take 500 mg calcium w/ D & try to get 30 min. of sunlight when there is sun, I doubt that would be it...unless my body isn't absorbing it. I've taken Celexa several years, but my doc decreased it by half when the research came out about what was considered safe for women to take. I set up an appt. for a well woman physical today. She always has a CBC drawn, but would that show up a vitamin D deficiency? I've had pain for over 2 yrs. & hate it when it's so severe I can't even sleep. Thanks for the encouragement & hugs.

[lifelesstraveled]

Originally Posted by thehermit

I know 2 people who had low levels of vitamin D & felt horrible. I do have the fatigue where my bod just runs out of energy & I just can't keep going until I rest. In fact, I have most of what you described except weight gain, but don't know what joint pain would feel like. Since I take 500 mg calcium w/ D & try to get 30 min. of sunlight when there is sun, I doubt that would be it...unless my body isn't absorbing it. I've taken Celexa several years, but my doc decreased it by half when the research came out about what was considered safe for women to take. I set up an appt. for a well woman physical today. She always has a CBC drawn, but would that show up a vitamin D deficiency? I've had pain for over 2 yrs. & hate it when it's so severe I can't even sleep. Thanks for the encouragement & hugs.

Hi!
Joint pain will be in your joints, like your hands, knees, spine, etc. For me it was in my neck very very bad, it was in one of my knees and there was a spot on my spin that was really sore.

Well it sounds like your vitamin D and C are being taken care of by the supplements, however, sometimes ppl dont absorb it properly (or so I've read). That doesn't mean that your body isn't. Vitamin D deficiency won't show up on a CBC I believe. I've had CBCs drawn over the last 2 years and none included vitamin D. I've read that doctors won't test for it unless it's requested. Maybe you can call your doctor and check to see if your vitamin levels were checked.

I don't want to worry you about this, but after finding out about my low vitamin d levels I am always quick to warn someone now to take their vitamin and calcium. Especially since it took almost 2 years for someone to figure it out. And it's such an easy fix. My fatigue went way, my aches went away (for the most part--I have mild arthritis in my neck anyways, but the low vitamin d made it 10000 times worse), I am able to sleep completely through the night, the gaud awful muscle cramps went away and I am not waking up super stiff in the mornings.

I hope you figure this out very soon! It's awful to be in pain for so long and not know why!

LLT

[Puffyprue]

My bones aching but its because i have a conditions , and Anti depressant withdrawl also can cause aching in your bones, if your bones still aching its better to talk to your doctor

[yellowted]

vit D deficiency is not routinely checked in the UK, is has to specially ordered and only if it is very low will they check your calcium levels.

Vit D can be got by two methods, first sunlight, it is possible that your body is unable to exchange this into usable vit D, last summer i spent hours in the sun most days without sunscreen, but still tested low vit D...i did have a great tan though! the other way is orally, not many foods contain usable vit D in any great quantity, but you can get suppliments containing it, you could possibly be unable to absorb it though.

you can be outside all day in the sun, but if you use sun screen, sit in the shade, cover your arms/legs with long sleeves/trousers or wear hats especially wide brimmed ones you are not going to absorb enough vit D as you need direct sunlight to allow your body to absorb it, driving everywhere does not count either unless you have a convertible with the roof down!

low vit D is definitely a big culprit for aching bones, I told my doc that my bones hurt on the inside years ago, he did nothing, it got worse, i was unable to walk without support, got depressed tried to end my life because of it with rat poison only to find i felt a million times better the following day, the reason why.... because rat poison uses very high levels of vit d as the poison and as my body was so low the level was enough to bring my levels back to near normal not overdose levels! I do not advocate that you try rat poison, it is not a good way to get you vit D, but you could try suppliments of calcium with vit D as one needs the other to help it be absorbed into the body.

[thehermit]

I called my dr's nurse today, & she's set me up for a bone density scan. My mom has osteoporosis which has gone into osteoarthritis, so my dr had a bone scan done on me several yrs. ago. It showed pre-osteoporosis, thus the 500mg of cal w/ D 3x daily. I'm not worried about my health or a vit D deficiency...that can be fixed. But, i do want to know why I've hurt so much for so long, & what can be done about it. I hate going to the dr. & I have to be really, really, on my deathbed kind of sick before I'll go. But, enough already w/ the pain, you know? Maybe I'll have some answers by the end of the month.

[thehermit]

Originally Posted by yellowted

vit D deficiency is not routinely checked in the UK, is has to specially ordered and only if it is very low will they check your calcium levels.

Vit D can be got by two methods, first sunlight, it is possible that your body is unable to exchange this into usable vit D, last summer i spent hours in the sun most days without sunscreen, but still tested low vit D...i did have a great tan though! the other way is orally, not many foods contain usable vit D in any great quantity, but you can get suppliments containing it, you could possibly be unable to absorb it though.

you can be outside all day in the sun, but if you use sun screen, sit in the shade, cover your arms/legs with long sleeves/trousers or wear hats especially wide brimmed ones you are not going to absorb enough vit D as you need direct sunlight to allow your body to absorb it, driving everywhere does not count either unless you have a convertible with the roof down!

low vit D is definitely a big culprit for aching bones, I told my doc that my bones hurt on the inside years ago, he did nothing, it got worse, i was unable to walk without support, got depressed tried to end my life because of it with rat poison only to find i felt a million times better the following day, the reason why.... because rat poison uses very high levels of vit d as the poison and as my body was so low the level was enough to bring my levels back to near normal not overdose levels! I do not advocate that you try rat poison, it is not a good way to get you vit D, but you could try suppliments of calcium with vit D as one needs the other to help it be absorbed into the body.

I wondered if sitting in the shade or outside w/ jacket & jeans would keep Vit D from being absorbed. Thanks for answering that. I sit in the sun because my therapist recommended it for help w/ my depression. He said 30 minutes a day w/ sunlight hitting your eyes would help in lieu of light therapy. interesting about the rat poison, but i won't be trying it. Did it do any harm to you at all? You were very lucky. I'm glad you're still with us.

[Puffyprue]

I have Osteoporosis in my both knees and my ankles, but theres not much that doctor can do because i cant walk too much, if you able to walk , i heard walking help to prevented osteoporosis but with so much pain it must be hard and not all sunlight its healthy for you i think the best sunlight its in the morning and late afternoon
glad you gonna have a test hope the result are good and you'll find the answer and treatment that will works for you

hugs

[thehermit]

Originally Posted by Puffyprue

I have Osteoporosis in my both knees and my ankles, but theres not much that doctor can do because i cant walk too much, if you able to walk , i heard walking help to prevented osteoporosis but with so much pain it must be hard and not all sunlight its healthy for you i think the best sunlight its in the morning and late afternoon
glad you gonna have a test hope the result are good and you'll find the answer and treatment that will works for you

hugs

I'm sorry about your Osteoporosis. I can walk & like to walk, but hate it when I'm told I have to for exercise. Then, it becomes work, a chore, & not enjoyable. We live where there's a lot of sun, the UV Index is high, & I burn easily, so I'm careful about the sunlight. Whatever the tests show, I'll just do what I have to so I can take care of myself & stay strong.

[Trippin2.0]

I have achy bones too so I sympathize. I have regular (excrutiating) pain in my spine, and pelvis, moderate to bad pain in knees and ankles, sometimes in my 1 hand too.
Been living like this for a year without answers from the drs I've seen except that it seems stress related and have basically given up, painkillers don't even make a dent relief wise. I do get enough sunlight though...

Anyway just wanted to say I feel your pain
*Pun intended

[yellowted]

vit D can only be absorbed from sunlight if the sunlight directly hits your un blocked and uncuvered skin. it can't pass through clothing , shade or suncream! I am not sure if it can pass through water in a pool but guess it would get distorted in the process if it could!
i am unsure what longterm harm the rat poison has had on me, all i know is i have megga trouble with acid reflux and my down belows, but they could be due to my hiatus hernia, allergies or the fact that my internal muscles are gradually giving up (they started before the rat poison )!

[thehermit]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

I have achy bones too so I sympathize. I have regular (excrutiating) pain in my spine, and pelvis, moderate to bad pain in knees and ankles, sometimes in my 1 hand too.
Been living like this for a year without answers from the drs I've seen except that it seems stress related and have basically given up, painkillers don't even make a dent relief wise. I do get enough sunlight though...

Anyway just wanted to say I feel your pain
*Pun intended

I love those groaner puns....Thank you for the smile

[thehermit]

Originally Posted by yellowted

vit D can only be absorbed from sunlight if the sunlight directly hits your un blocked and uncuvered skin. it can't pass through clothing , shade or suncream! I am not sure if it can pass through water in a pool but guess it would get distorted in the process if it could!
i am unsure what longterm harm the rat poison has had on me, all i know is i have megga trouble with acid reflux and my down belows, but they could be due to my hiatus hernia, allergies or the fact that my internal muscles are gradually giving up (they started before the rat poison )!

I'm not a swimmer, so don't try to get my sun that way. my mom has hiatus hernia & it really gives her fits sometimes. Allergies really give me fits, & have wondered if the aching could be due to that. It's hard to tell what has caused what w/in my body, too. It's so discouraging sometimes, but I try to stay positive. Sounds like you do, too.

[thehermit]

I go for my bone density scan tomorrow...but won't see my dr. for 2 weeks. I wish the sun would come out from behind the clouds so I could get some natural Vitamin D.