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Old Mar 19, 2014, 05:31 PM
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Hi everyone, I'm needing help and information on Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder for children. My friend's daughter has supposedly been diagnosed with this and taking medication. The child is only 6. Is this normal? Is this something that can actually be diagnosed? What medication can be given?
The child seems normal, happy, and everything is fine. In fact, my friend had no idea the child's other parent (OP) had the child diagnosed with this. The OP only disclosed it in courts after the OP got a lawyer for a court date regarding the child. My friend does have a lawyer. This information now being told to him through court papers is very alarming. The OP has been very defensive, over protective, and over controlling of the child's life since the OP found out my friend is married. The OP has refused to let my friend see his child, but welcomes phone calls when it's convenient for them, not for my friend. The OP has lied throughout the court papers, but this issue is something my friend needs guidance and knowledge about OCPD for children and what medication could be given to the child. Please help.

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Old Mar 20, 2014, 08:54 PM
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As the parent of the child, your friend has the right to know about the child's health and all medications the child needs. I advise him to talk to the child's prescribing physician.

It sounds like your friend doesn't believe the diagnosis.

I hope both parents and step-parent can do what is best and most calming for the child.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 10:19 AM
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Thanks. My friend doesn't know what doctor the child is going to in order to seek those documents and records. When the OP tried to extort $5000 for a doctor bill, my friend asked for the bill to help pay. The bill never surfaced. The point of getting the bill was to be able to call the doctor and figure out what was going on with the child's health. My friend knew the OP had medicaid so the bill shouldn't exist anyways. My friend played into the OP's game by calling their bluff. The OP keeps changing stories on the child's health and denying ever putting such fears into the child's head even though we are obtaining witness statements. Just concerned over this child's health and wondering if a 6 year old can really be diagnosed for OCD or OCPD as the claim is in court documents from the OP's lawyer.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 11:44 AM
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I believe your friends attorney should be able to request all of the childs' medical information including mental health. The judge would make a decision on the request and if the mother does not comply with said request, would be held in contempt of court. I don't think she would want to go there.

Your friends' attorney should also ask that the child be seen by another doctor/therapist to be tested and that report can be entered into court as well.

Another option would be to have your friend make an anonymous call to DCYF (or whatever it's called in your state) if they feel there is some kind of abuse or neglect going on. If they get involved, then they too will be called into court to make a report of their findings. This though, can be a slippery slope so one should consider it very carefully.
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You cannot be diagnosed with a personality disorder until age 18.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 01:17 PM
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Thank you. Considering the OP put in court documents that was sent to the court about the child being diagnosed and being medicated for this, makes me wonder how this can be if they cant be diagnosed til 18 and what kind of meds would they be giving this child.

Ill definitely post updates after court but still wanting more input from anyone who would like to give me some.

Symptoms given in paperwork says the child has irrational fears and anxiety. The only thing im thinking is the OP is denying ever said claims of kidnapping and expects my friend is just going off of what the kid says like the kid made it up on their own. Considering the OP even put in writing and sent to courts a statement that supposedly happened between the child and grandparent is hilarious. The only way my friend heard about the supposid kidnapping phrase was when the principal of the school mentioned it as the OP stated it to him. My friend is getting a statement from the school to back it up. This OP is great at manipulating and turning the blame around. Serious web of lies. Feel bad for the kid as we doubt thee diagnoses is real. Wondering how she can get a diagnosis unless she paid a doctor.
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Family therapy might be really helpful for this child. I get the feeling the child is being torn up by the parent's behavior. It makes me sad that this child is so distressed.

I'm sure there are exceptions to diagnosing, and a diagnosis is not even always given, even if symptoms are treated. OCD is about fears and fears can disable a person at any age. So, perhaps the doctor is treating symptoms, in hopes of giving the child some relief of the awful anxiety he/she is experiencing. This really needs to be taken seriously, to resolve it, even if it isn't believed.

Did this parent (your friend) give up parental rights? The reason I ask is that he has the right to know who his child's doctors are and to communicate with them. Is your friend active in the child's life?

I know it is frustrating when it seems someone is not being truthful, and I hope all parties can address their own issues of fear and mistrust, and do what is best for the child who seems to be kind of a scapegoat here. Raising a child, whether parents are together or not, takes a team that is willing to work hard and get help when disagreements start harming any party involved. I probably sound preachy but I don't mean to. I just care very much for children caught between warring parents and/or have extreme anxiety during the years that should be their carefree years full of being surrounded by love.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 11:36 AM
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Family therapy might be really helpful for this child. I get the feeling the child is being torn up by the parent's behavior. It makes me sad that this child is so distressed.

I'm sure there are exceptions to diagnosing, and a diagnosis is not even always given, even if symptoms are treated. OCD is about fears and fears can disable a person at any age. So, perhaps the doctor is treating symptoms, in hopes of giving the child some relief of the awful anxiety he/she is experiencing. This really needs to be taken seriously, to resolve it, even if it isn't believed.

Did this parent (your friend) give up parental rights? The reason I ask is that he has the right to know who his child's doctors are and to communicate with them. Is your friend active in the child's life?

I know it is frustrating when it seems someone is not being truthful, and I hope all parties can address their own issues of fear and mistrust, and do what is best for the child who seems to be kind of a scapegoat here. Raising a child, whether parents are together or not, takes a team that is willing to work hard and get help when disagreements start harming any party involved. I probably sound preachy but I don't mean to. I just care very much for children caught between warring parents and/or have extreme anxiety during the years that should be their carefree years full of being surrounded by love.
Thank you for your input. I greatly appreciate it.

The court documents specifically state OCPD. I did look up OCD and agree totally with what you say about it. Typo or not, the OP needs to provide proof. Based on how this child is with conversations with my friend, my friend has a hard time believing this child has ever had these issues.

My friend had a fantastic phone call with the child last night and the child is and always sounds happy and excited to hear from my friend. My friend did try to record the phone call in hopes of using it in court. My friend thinks the OP and child moved as the only phone number given is the child's own new cell phone at the age of 6 and the area code is alarmingly different. Plus, the child indicated they now live in a different house. We shall see what happens in court, but we think the OP's lawyer has a lot of work to catch up on. My friend can't figure out the child's health care provider in order to obtain medical records. That is also what will come out in court. My friend was very positive, friendly and never intrusive to what the child says in conversations. Basically, my friend is trying hard as always to never make the child feel torn. My friend is very sensitive towards this. With the constant change of homes, schools, etc, we are hoping the judge will see that my friend has a more stable home environment for the child.
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Old Apr 08, 2014, 12:31 PM
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Quick update:
Courts ruled to let my friend have visitation with their child. The OP got temporary sole custody. However, the judge is a no nonsense judge. The OP went all crazy in front of both lawyers. The OP and the OP's lawyer couldn't produce a doctor note about the child's OCPD. The lawyer stated OCD, but paperwork said OCPD. No medication was mentioned in court nor did the OP state anything about the medication via phone and in person when my friend picked up their child. The OP was very angry and tried to make their own rules for getting the child AFTER the judge ruled my friend got the child for the weekend. It was a mess. But basically now they have to put together a parenting plan and if they can't agree, it goes to the same judge again. It was shown that the OP has every intention to keep my friend away from their child. The judge didn't like what the OP was doing and basically showed the OP that they are full of crap.

Thank you to everyone on here for your input and support.
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