Anyone Else Under the Impression that Change Can Be Good?

What does that have to do with anything? I said it frustrated me to try to play to your emotional side a bit and think you were getting to me and would come on a bit harder with your persuasion. Hook. Line. Sinker.

That was great!!! Can't say much now can ya????? HA HA HA HA HA.
Anyway the DSM is a FU&%ING JOKE. If we based these stupid guidelines on actually determining who has what then 95% of the world would be "DIAGNOSED" with one of the PD's. It is like determining what your baking because you used butter, eggs and flour. It's in almost everything that is baked.
Instead of hearing someone diagnosed with NPD you choose to battle that it is incorrect. Do you notice yet that the ones here who "think" they have "a NPD" or "a ASPD" find you to be an absolute joke. You get what you need here from the nons, their the ones who say they understand you. They are week minded people, nowhere close to the mindset we have. Remember what I said many posts ago. Your brother may be the true "N" and you remain that sorry little scared boy still trying to find his place in the world. You feel good doing it in a chat style as you probably never stood up to anyone in person. You are what everyone is using as their own enjoyment here, one big laugh. Have you not noticed this yet???

wow. We've sure gotten away from the topic....

do you have a clue what NPD is or where to find reliable information about it?

Yes I do, I have a degree in psychology and my whole life has been psychological studies to figure out how to better get stimulation in the world.

A 2 year degree?

So, that's a "yes". You have a 2 year psychology degree.

Human beings "are" complex and human beings tend to have different brains too. That "is" the normal IMHO, it is "normal" to be unique somehow. It is actually very "NORMAL" to have a certain amount of the "all about me" taking place too. It is actually quite "evident" in viewing this site in it's entirety too. It is also very "reasonable" to say that every person has some "narcissistic traits" too.

That being said, if a person "is" unique in some way and struggles and others react to that by consistently finding fault in some way, that "can" have such a negative affect to where a person can degrade to a level where that person begins to not want to engage in life. I have experienced that state of mind myself and it is not being a "coward/weak/selfish/stupid" as many might respond "if" a person listens and believes and acts.

If an engine is built to run on deisel, then it will not run on gas or corn oil or grape juice.
But, it will function well if maintained and fueled with deisel and can be useful and last a long time too. There is absolutely "nothing" in nature that is "identical" really. However, different things can contain certain properties that become a rock, a tree, a flower, a blade of grass, a human being a body of water and countless things that exist. I am just different than you Underground or shakesphere so "winning" is "what", "according to what"? And I don't mean any disrespect with that question because from my standpoint I see interesting qualities in both of you. If I have an idea of what you are Underground, then, I can set that aside and observe you and be entertained in whatever way you express yourself. And in that allow "part of me" that will have some of that by the mere fact that we are both human, have the capacity to "identify". Envy? well, the facination of you is mostly in that you have decided that "you are very pleased with yourself". Well, what "human being" doesn't want that? And that is why you gain attention. Does that really set you above all? No, not really because others will have "abilities" and talents that you will not have. You were going to leave and said, "I dont feel I am getting what I want here, not sure what that is, only whatever that is, doesn't seem to be here". Well, it's the "dual and conquer" you like, it's just part of how your brain runs its the "fuel" you run off best, it is named even as "the narcissistic feed". Ahhhh, but everyone has some of that going on. Well, shakesphere has "some of that" going on, but isn't the "same as you", and that is evident. I think the reason why I had found some humor in that observation really is because of how I had been down that road myself, even right down to that bold print part. I had a conversation one time with an individual that was quite enlightening and that individual said that a Narcissist is not so hard to fool and take advantage of, which boils down to "feed it the right fuel" and thats all. In other words, adore him/her and feed him to where he feels "he is the winner" they will actually love you for it and come back for more even. Yet, you say, "if I can't use you and find you useful to me I just get rid of you".

Well, you just like a challenge and you like to "win" or at least "believe" you did in your mind. So? Well, that is just your makeup and in knowing what that means, I admit, you are very entertaining in your own way.

We are all a bit different in the pool of humanity same as walking in the woods and noticing the trees are all different too and then realizing how "everything" is unique.

OE

" You get what you need here from the nons, their the ones who say they understand you. They are week minded people, nowhere close to the mindset we have. " quote Underground

Did you like this???

I gotta be honest, there are situations you could be put in that "nons" would sit back and laugh their azz's off at, seen it done, even seen them laugh hard when the Narcissist isn't even aware too.

" You get what you need here from the nons, their the ones who say they understand you. They are week minded people, nowhere close to the mindset we have. " quote Underground

I gotta be honest, there are situations you could be put in that "nons" would sit back and laugh their azz's off at, seen it done, even seen them laugh hard when the Narcissist isn't even aware too.

That's when you know someone is about to break a lot of people in a big way usually. At least in my life. If i'm letting others tease me it's because they're getting baited for something spectacular

Who said they don't like BDP havers? Did I miss something?

It was early in the thread, I didn't note who said it.

There is definitely a contempt of sufferers of BPD being shown.

That's when you know someone is about to break a lot of people in a big way usually. At least in my life. If i'm letting others tease me it's because they're getting baited for something spectacular

No someone implied that someone said they didn't. Wasn't the case.

All tactics, see even the nons have them as well. Should we label yet???