Do people with NPD make up more than 1 avatar and "talk" to themselves, so to speak?

I am not suggesting that anyone here, does that. I read that on the internet.

What exactly is the question supposed to mean? People create an avatar or two to speak to eachother by own self??? Not narcissist just the looney maybe ha ha ha

No. I know that some people do that.
For supply. Or to try to make someone jealous. They create several different profiles and type to themselves.

It is OK. I just wanted to say that I know about it.

[HairlessMop]

I type to myself,but that has nothing to do with my NPD. It helps with my depression and memory issues. At least I think that's why I do it. I can't remember right now, I'll get back to you.
As for making and changing avatars... I'm guessing you mean do we make multiple profiles with different avatars so we can talk to ourselves? Ain't nobody got no time for that. We don't require validation from ourselves for ourselves, we need it from others.

[HeavyMetalLover]

Originally Posted by HairlessMop

I type to myself,but that has nothing to do with my NPD. It helps with my depression and memory issues. At least I think that's why I do it. I can't remember right now, I'll get back to you.
As for making and changing avatars... I'm guessing you mean do we make multiple profiles with different avatars so we can talk to ourselves? Ain't nobody got no time for that. We don't require validation from ourselves for ourselves, we need it from others.

Just to play "Devil's advocate", what's wrong with validating oneself? (Although creating avatars to speak to each other so one can talk to themself just seems like too much work to me. Why not just openly talk to yourself then?)

I've been guilty myself of making fake avatars both on social media and on online gaming, however, these avatars are almost always female and are built for the purpose of luring men in either to have fun with or to advertise a website with a financial motive behind it, or in the case of social media, to boost my actual ego and how attractive that I appear to be to other women by making me appear to be a "player" who has a lot of attractive women hit on me.

What he said.^

Ok just my two cents as I always have. Getting supply from an alter ego is not a narcissist. It is a silly game for someone to play by creating a false self on an electronic world. I myself would find no pleasure in creating a character to further my supply. The real sensations of fulfillment come from doing this myself with my own self. Yes I have a real name and keep my tag name instead, not because my avatar makes me something that I'm not. More to keep privacy like so many others here. If I were to meet an online fake especially here (for those who have been here know already that we had one and I was monitored for some time because of what happened, may even say I was on suspension from work lol) I would want to show all this fakeness. Although I wouldn't as it would get me kicked off but you get my point!!!

Originally Posted by Underground

Ok just my two cents as I always have. Getting supply from an alter ego is not a narcissist. It is a silly game for someone to play by creating a false self on an electronic world. I myself would find no pleasure in creating a character to further my supply. The real sensations of fulfillment come from doing this myself with my own self. Yes I have a real name and keep my tag name instead, not because my avatar makes me something that I'm not. More to keep privacy like so many others here. If I were to meet an online fake especially here (for those who have been here know already that we had one and I was monitored for some time because of what happened, may even say I was on suspension from work lol) I would want to show all this fakeness. Although I wouldn't as it would get me kicked off but you get my point!!!

One could also argue that doing things like this is dependent on rather or not one's narcissist traits are more covert rather than overt.

With that being said, while I agree that a "true" narcissist doesn't use avatars to increase supply, I don't see how somebody with more covert traits who uses avatars to "enhance" how their real identities appear to the rest of the world, such as with my fake female Facebook profiles (which also have financial incentive behind them in the form of click baiting men to websites that pay me money BTW) makes anybody less narcissistic.

Then again, despite having 6/9 of the traits required to be diagnosed NPD, since most of my traits are covert rather than overt and the DSIM so foolishly excludes covert narcissism as a separate diagnosis, I can't be labeled a "true narcissist" by their standards.

Also consider that some of my behavior (in particular the female online game avatars) aren't motivated by narcissism, but by sadism because I enjoy preying on desperate nerdy neckbeard virgin guys in online gaming only to break their heart later, and let's face it, men don't have anywhere near the kind of sexual power that women have.

I am not trying to disprove of your theories, as always my two cents is out of my own pocket. I prefer speaking of what "I" think rather than a text book. So with that I say "I" don't believe that creating an avatar to make yourself seem "cooler" "hotter" or whatever "er" word you prefer equates to any type of narcissism other than playing a game. Could also be a generation gap, maybe the younger narcissists do find supply in creating a false self in the electronic world. Just seems weird to me I guess that one would find a gain in doing so. Probably more because I cannot understand it. Are you a female or a male? I was never sure when you said about your female avatars if you are a man trying to lure boys to like you by portraying a girl. If that is the case then to me that's really weird. I most definitely could not understand this and would definitely question your sexuality preferences in doing so. Not trying to belittle you as again I speak only of my own thoughts and they are not to put you down. As far as overt covert I think that the definitions are based more on the social aspects rather than if you do something in the open or online. Last but not least I am a diagnosed NPD recipient. I don't speak of this as an award just as another part of who I am. You realize as this again is my own thoughts I come here and feel as if I am the grand wizard. Now you can disagree all you like and so can all the others who read this but based on myself this is how I see it. People come to see what I have to write, they want to get to know me and try to understand more than anyone else in this forum. People send me messages asking to help them to better understand either themselves or someone in their lives that they believe to be like me. I am sort of like a god without creating an avatar to trick people into believing. This is who I am In. Real life too. I take over situations and myself the one to be with, to get to know to align yourself with. Whether it's work, functions and all in between I have a way to make people think, to want to help, to want to love. I guess what some strive to do by creating an online image I live each day. Suppose that may be why it becomes difficult for me to understand another's ways. I always lead, never follow. As much as many here would like to think of themselves in the same fashion the truth is I am followed by most even without them submitting. They still know that this truth exists. Don't try to fight the temptations, I am just that good. This also has to do more than just NPD, it had to do with Many traits and stars that were aligned when I was brought into this world. They speak of narcissists feeling entitled and special, well I don't feel I just AM.
Thank you for taking the time to read through one of my mindful lessons as always it has been my pleasure to enlighten the people and to bring another thought some never knew to think of.
Love,
The Underground

Originally Posted by Underground

I am not trying to disprove of your theories, as always my two cents is out of my own pocket. I prefer speaking of what "I" think rather than a text book. So with that I say "I" don't believe that creating an avatar to make yourself seem "cooler" "hotter" or whatever "er" word you prefer equates to any type of narcissism other than playing a game. Could also be a generation gap, maybe the younger narcissists do find supply in creating a false self in the electronic world. Just seems weird to me I guess that one would find a gain in doing so. Probably more because I cannot understand it. Are you a female or a male? I was never sure when you said about your female avatars if you are a man trying to lure boys to like you by portraying a girl. If that is the case then to me that's really weird. I most definitely could not understand this and would definitely question your sexuality preferences in doing so. Not trying to belittle you as again I speak only of my own thoughts and they are not to put you down. As far as overt covert I think that the definitions are based more on the social aspects rather than if you do something in the open or online. Last but not least I am a diagnosed NPD recipient. I don't speak of this as an award just as another part of who I am. You realize as this again is my own thoughts I come here and feel as if I am the grand wizard. Now you can disagree all you like and so can all the others who read this but based on myself this is how I see it. People come to see what I have to write, they want to get to know me and try to understand more than anyone else in this forum. People send me messages asking to help them to better understand either themselves or someone in their lives that they believe to be like me. I am sort of like a god without creating an avatar to trick people into believing. This is who I am In. Real life too. I take over situations and myself the one to be with, to get to know to align yourself with. Whether it's work, functions and all in between I have a way to make people think, to want to help, to want to love. I guess what some strive to do by creating an online image I live each day. Suppose that may be why it becomes difficult for me to understand another's ways. I always lead, never follow. As much as many here would like to think of themselves in the same fashion the truth is I am followed by most even without them submitting. They still know that this truth exists. Don't try to fight the temptations, I am just that good. This also has to do more than just NPD, it had to do with Many traits and stars that were aligned when I was brought into this world. They speak of narcissists feeling entitled and special, well I don't feel I just AM.
Thank you for taking the time to read through one of my mindful lessons as always it has been my pleasure to enlighten the people and to bring another thought some never knew to think of.
Love,
The Underground

As always, I respect your wisdom and I agree that the NPD forum wouldn't be what it is without you.

To answer your question, I am male and I use female avatars to lure in both men and women. Women tend to find men more attractive who have more attractive women interested in them and other men tend to think that guys who attract more women are more "manly" and thus, are more worthy of respect. This isn't to say that I'm not narcissistic offline as well because I am. I simply use human behavior to my advantage to get ahead in life both online and offline.

Regardless, I want you to know that I respect your wisdom on this topic and I'm not trying to debate or fight with you in case you think that I am. I'm simply trying to invoke intelligent discussion on this matter and perhaps give others another way to look at/think about this topic.

Thank you for the respect you show. We have many battles ahead and many roads to cover that are always less traveled. I understand that we cannot all agree or understand one another. I write from my own mind, meaning I only base things off how I see and not what others state as "facts". I also think we can all agree that by writing with how "WE" see is as factual as it can get, whether one agrees or not. You have your tactics and I have mine. Whose to say why, what or anything in between. What we share is a problem, one that we do try to figure out and put a handle on to be "acceptable" in the real world (at times). I do know that I am like a boomerang, toss me out as I try to improve but yet I always come back to who I have been. I don't think like most, I certainly don't act like most and when it comes to how I am supposed to feel and deal I am unlike most. Except that for the ones here I am like most, crazy right? There is a line or an order if you will we need to follow. Some are taller, some are faster and some are smarter. Regardless there will always be a pecking order!!!

And I am at the top, since I am sane and not an NPD.

Who can really define sanity? True sanity is an illusion as the human mind cannot be trusted. In the end, we're all crazy.

I think life is all about finding balance and being the right kind of crazy which is my grand struggle in life currently

[Atypical_Disaster]

To answer the original post, this Narcissist doesn't do that. Heheheh.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by ValentinaVVV

Do people with NPD make up more than 1 avatar and "talk" to themselves, so to speak?

I am not suggesting that anyone here, does that. I read that on the internet.

I've seen people do that - create sock-puppets - on other forums sometimes in an effort to bolster their claims/arguments. Not usually just to talk to themselves.

Valentina, how dare you.....

Originally Posted by ValentinaVVV

And I am at the top, since I am sane and not an NPD.

Where does that come from? Oh ye with the sharp tongue!

[Atypical_Disaster]

Well this is interesting.

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It comes from the fact that I am not NPD. I am bipolar,but not crazy.

I do have NPDS in my family and know a lot of them in life.
My ex-h would be an example.

I am not talking about anyone of here- but-

I think some people can see thru the delusional ideas of people with NPD. Some NPDs throw temper tantrums and can appear very childlike and spoiled.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by ValentinaVVV

It comes from the fact that I am not NPD. I am bipolar,but not crazy.

I do have NPDS in my family and know a lot of them in life.
My ex-h would be an example.

I am not talking about anyone of here- but-

I think some people can see thru the delusional ideas of people with NPD. Some NPDs throw temper tantrums and can appear very childlike and spoiled.

What you wrote is something I've definitely found to be true in my experiences with narcissists, they can be very childlike, spoiled, etc. I think it's the nature of the disorder with the whole entitlement issue, "I want what I want when I want it, which is RIGHT NOW!!!" I'm not saying that to insult narcissists, it's just what I've observed.

Delusional ideas, I haven't seen that in every narcissist I've met unless you want to call their grandiosity delusional(I would call that more pseudo-delusional than actually delusional). But in a couple of narcissists I've met, both "malignant", yes, they were highly delusional beings but I don't know if it was due to their narcissism or another mental illness that was comorbid along with the NPD.

Originally Posted by ValentinaVVV

It comes from the fact that I am not NPD. I am bipolar,but not crazy.

I do have NPDS in my family and know a lot of them in life.
My ex-h would be an example.

I am not talking about anyone of here- but-

I think some people can see thru the delusional ideas of people with NPD. Some NPDs throw temper tantrums and can appear very childlike and spoiled.

I was actually referring to the "I am at the top" part. Are you better than people with NPD?

Ok I suppose it's time for me to shed some light in here. People in this room tend to discuss what they observe narcissist to be. I also see that many speak of people they meet and diagnose them pretty quickly. Myself, I never take notice on what I think of others from a therapists stand point. Maybe I just don't care enough to do so, possibly because I gain nothing from it or whatever it may be. I just can't understand I suppose. I would also like to speak up in regards to the earlier part, how is it that so many who say they do not have npd seem to have all the answers to the ones that actually do. Let's be more realistic, a person like myself would never be diagnosed by ANY of you if we're to meet in person. You wouldn't be talking of me in the way you do others here as in the npds you have experience (so you say) with. Seriously speaking the levels or depths one may have depends on each and not just a title. Yes I have NPD but would never be spoken of as little you speak of here. I said something yesterday about liking to hear about others pain. Well that has to do with who I am and not a title. I also understand people to gain what's needed and not in a strong minded way such as a toddler getting their way. I guess what I'm getting at is be careful with your passing judgements because when you do meet one like me it could be so much more devastating then the small simple minded ways you express here. Let's stop with all the name calling too, you others here with your strange titles shouldn't even be talking. Oh I'm up today and down tomorrow, I hear voices and so on blah blah blah. NPD allows people to feel better than they ever have and with that brings the other side of the sword. We are the best because we can do things mentally and physically in a way that defines care, love and all emotions based on studies rather than what your supposed to feel inside. The wolves in sheep clothing. We strive to be best at what we do, whether it's fun, life or making others believe. The power is always mine and will continue to do so. Tell me I'm a hurting abandoned person and child like. Whatever I'm still better and will always be at seeing what I need to do to get what I want from you or anybody else. Keep crying as for me it's ok, I enjoy it. Not cause I'm sick but because I'm me!!! Simple minded people...... Take it how you like as I will not be going back to read through (Ask Atypical). Ha ha ha

Originally Posted by Underground

Ok I suppose it's time for me to shed some light in here. People in this room tend to discuss what they observe narcissist to be. I also see that many speak of people they meet and diagnose them pretty quickly. Myself, I never take notice on what I think of others from a therapists stand point. Maybe I just don't care enough to do so, possibly because I gain nothing from it or whatever it may be. I just can't understand I suppose. I would also like to speak up in regards to the earlier part, how is it that so many who say they do not have npd seem to have all the answers to the ones that actually do. Let's be more realistic, a person like myself would never be diagnosed by ANY of you if we're to meet in person. You wouldn't be talking of me in the way you do others here as in the npds you have experience (so you say) with. Seriously speaking the levels or depths one may have depends on each and not just a title. Yes I have NPD but would never be spoken of as little you speak of here. I said something yesterday about liking to hear about others pain. Well that has to do with who I am and not a title. I also understand people to gain what's needed and not in a strong minded way such as a toddler getting their way. I guess what I'm getting at is be careful with your passing judgements because when you do meet one like me it could be so much more devastating then the small simple minded ways you express here. Let's stop with all the name calling too, you others here with your strange titles shouldn't even be talking. Oh I'm up today and down tomorrow, I hear voices and so on blah blah blah. NPD allows people to feel better than they ever have and with that brings the other side of the sword. We are the best because we can do things mentally and physically in a way that defines care, love and all emotions based on studies rather than what your supposed to feel inside. The wolves in sheep clothing. We strive to be best at what we do, whether it's fun, life or making others believe. The power is always mine and will continue to do so. Tell me I'm a hurting abandoned person and child like. Whatever I'm still better and will always be at seeing what I need to do to get what I want from you or anybody else. Keep crying as for me it's ok, I enjoy it. Not cause I'm sick but because I'm me!!! Simple minded people...... Take it how you like as I will not be going back to read through (Ask Atypical). Ha ha ha

I am not insulting I am asking? I don't know the answers. I am asking

[here today]

Originally Posted by Underground

. . .I said something yesterday about liking to hear about others pain. Well that has to do with who I am and not a title. . .

I’m so sorry, if you’re referring to a comment I made in another thread. What I was trying to say is that if people are hurting, they may not like to hear “I enjoy hearing about your emotional distress” because that’s not empathetic and could add to their hurt. They are distressed and you enjoy hearing about it? There's a mismatch there. And so they may not feel trusting toward you and want to share their hurt.