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Old Nov 03, 2015, 03:29 PM
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As usual the ones I role with dropped some science and shined the light almost blinding everyone. Seek and you shall find..... Why try to hate on the ones who are here because their supposed to be? What is the reason to invade a place created for people like me when there are thousands of sites for the little hurt cry babies to weep with one another. so what if your pain caused me pleasure ha ha(n joke). But seriously I have written here in the past all to do with the real me. My childhood, the lack of parenting skills that were shown or not shown growing up and much more. I also write here to amuse myself. My humor some get (the ones like me) and others take this as an attack or to be seen as an Inhumane way of thoughts. Again mostly my own humor. When most are like oh my god with things seen in life I usually find funny (unless it has to do with kids). Just how I am!! Anyway I have also many times before answered mins who had questions with meaning. To help give my opinion on how I see it, a person with NPD perspective!!! I also have had many others pm me with questions which I've gracefully always have taken time out of my busy schedule to help answer them(narcissistic selling point ha ha). So you see you are all so lucky to have people like me here and yet you would rather bash then learn. What does this tell me??? Tells me that I am better than you!!! I will help while all the mind want to project hate and so on to people like me. People like me who are here to help you..... And I'm supposed to be the one without and empathy!! Shame on you haters!!!
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Old Nov 03, 2015, 03:31 PM
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Many and mins is really NONS. Spell check in above writings
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Old Nov 03, 2015, 05:33 PM
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As usual the ones I role with dropped some science and shined the light almost blinding everyone. Seek and you shall find..... Why try to hate on the ones who are here because their supposed to be? What is the reason to invade a place created for people like me when there are thousands of sites for the little hurt cry babies to weep with one another. so what if your pain caused me pleasure ha ha(n joke). But seriously I have written here in the past all to do with the real me. My childhood, the lack of parenting skills that were shown or not shown growing up and much more. I also write here to amuse myself. My humor some get (the ones like me) and others take this as an attack or to be seen as an Inhumane way of thoughts. Again mostly my own humor. When most are like oh my god with things seen in life I usually find funny (unless it has to do with kids). Just how I am!! Anyway I have also many times before answered mins who had questions with meaning. To help give my opinion on how I see it, a person with NPD perspective!!! I also have had many others pm me with questions which I've gracefully always have taken time out of my busy schedule to help answer them(narcissistic selling point ha ha). So you see you are all so lucky to have people like me here and yet you would rather bash then learn. What does this tell me??? Tells me that I am better than you!!! I will help while all the mind want to project hate and so on to people like me. People like me who are here to help you..... And I'm supposed to be the one without and empathy!! Shame on you haters!!!
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As Atypical has said, you’re the only “pure” narcissist on this forum who has stayed around and I’m glad you’re here to give your perspective. Don’t know anywhere else on the internet where people can get it. Seems to me like you’re just being you, not tooting your own horn (NPD tendency) like Sam Vaknin who, I think, kind of biased things. My two cents.

My father likely had NPD. He was not a hater, he focused on building himself up. I’m not sure if he loved me for me or as an extension of him, but I did feel love from him. Never hate. And given the background he had. . .it would have been understandable if he had turned out a lot worse.
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Old Nov 03, 2015, 06:16 PM
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I often wonder about all of this stuff. Who are actually the people with NPD in the world? Is it the actual narcissists who have NPD, or the "normal" people who have NPD?

Personality disorder implies pervasive, so much and so long that it is part of your personality.

But, I could've sworn this fits "normal" people to a T. Think about it.

All this stuff you see going on in the world today, which is the norm, is all very narcissistic in nature, very self-serving and self-loving as a basis for what these people do.

Underground, all you guys, I don't think you guys are the real narcissists on this planet.

These "to good to be touched", "I'm doing it for your own good", "learn to love yourself" normals who consider themselves f-cking life gurus, they are the real narcissists man.

I'm probably wrong, but to me, a narcissist was always someone who pretends, who pretends to be good, who pretends to love you so much, they'll supposedly do anything for you, people who pretend to care, and people who use sweet words and try to patronize you. That's always been the image of a narcissist for me - a false person who tries so hard to appear normal and like they're always doing the right thing for everyone. A person so desperate to be good and look good because they are so f-cked up on the inside, and they know it.

Underground, you guys, I don't get that from you. You guys are so upfront, always have been, you don't bullsh-t people with sweet words, you don't try to change people. You guys are the most loving people I've seen, and you guys are supposed to be the NPDs and all this sh--t that people say you are.

I can hear you shouting at me already, let me explain! You guys who are supposed to be the "narcissists" seem to be the most straight up and stand up people I've met so far. You tell people things like they are, no BS. You guys don't mince words, you don't try to convince anyone, you tell people hey, this is BS, you're talking BS now.

In many ways that is unconditional love! Don't laugh! It is!

All these "normal" and "well-adjusted" people out there in the world are nothing but haters, trying to coat their sh--t in sweet honey and beautiful speech. It's BS!

These people are the true narcissists man! Have you ever listened, I mean really listened to the absolute sh--t the talk. They all pretend like they do things to help people, etc. Pretend love - THAT'S HATE!!! Damn, how could I have been so damn blind all my life? The proof's been there all along!

Why don't we take their damn labels and stick it right back on them?! They are the one's who should be wearing them, not us.

Damn! You know how they always say this stuff is like a mirror! Maybe this has been a reflection of their true selves in us all along! They stick a label on us (with me it's "autism"), but they are marking themselves!

Judge and you be judged, by the same token, label and you're labeling yourself!

Sorry for rambling guys, just a bit of an "epiphany" moment here.
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Old Nov 04, 2015, 01:15 PM
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You see I am the right one and all the others are the fractured one's. Underground has once again conquered!!! I am so magical
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Old Nov 10, 2015, 11:58 AM
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life isn't black and white
^This - life is definitely shades of grey. We're all a little different. So, I think yes it is possible to "feel" remorse. How much?? Every time?? Everyone?? That's where we get into the shades of grey. I feel it when I hurt my wife - but that's 23years. As for co-workers or acquaintances - not so much or not all.
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Old Dec 03, 2015, 06:19 AM
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Wish you healing. It rough isn't. My mother is nar, as well as other members of fam. They are perfect, have to have control, love money, no empathy, and long list of destructive behaviors/actions. Does your mom lie alot?
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Old Dec 08, 2015, 03:12 PM
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Hi all,

I'll make this quick. My mother is a narcissist. She's abused me for 8 years and I have emotional issues because of it. Today we went for lunch and discussed my pain. I cried and she kept saying how painful it was for HER that I was saying all this to her. Then she later she said she was sorry and cried. My question is, to all you narcissists out there, do you think my mother is capable of ANY remorse? ANY AT ALL? Does she feel bad for the pain she's caused? I don't know if I should believe her or not. It's so hard because I love her deeply and I don't want to give up on her. Giving up on her would be like slitting her throat and watching her die right in front of me. I love her too much.

So, is it possible for narcissists to feel bad for the pain they've caused to others? Genuine question. I'm asking because a lot of people say no, but j want to hear it from narcissists themselves.

Thanks all!!

Good luck with everything! Love&light!
I came across this and I know the thread is a bit old but I wanted to recommend to the OP the book "Will I ever be good enough: healing for daughters of narcissistic mothers" by Karyn McBride PhD. A friend recommended it to me and I found it very helpful. I am pretty sure my mom has histrionic PD but she has a lot of narcissitic tendencies, she's VERY self focused. The problem with narcissistic parents is that they often see their children as extensions of themselves, so it's difficult if not impossible for them to understand you feel things that aren't the same as what they feel.

My boyfriend has diagnosed NPD and he has taught himself to feel empathy to an extent. He does feel bad when he hurts me, but he says that there's just a select few he cares about (me, his kids, his best friend and his sponser) and the rest of the world can go to hell for all he cares.
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Old Dec 15, 2015, 08:40 AM
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Wish you healing. It rough isn't. My mother is nar, as well as other members of fam. They are perfect, have to have control, love money, no empathy, and long list of destructive behaviors/actions. Does your mom lie alot?
I wish I had read this post from you sooner. I'm glad I came across it. I have realized that recently on top of all the other narcissists in my family, my mother is one also. A friend of mine who knows my abuse history called my mother a "narcissistic *****" just seemingly out of nowhere so I started doing some reading about narcissistic mothers and sure enough, my mother most definitely is a Narcissist.

I know your question wasn't directed towards me but I will say that my mother lies just about constantly. Part of my motivation to be a better person and to be more honest is because I do not want to turn into my mother. Again, of course my intentions are selfish as I have NPD myself but I look at the waste of a life my mother has lived and I will do anything in my power to not be in my 50s with no friends, no real connection to people at all, etc. I want to be better than the family who raised me, in my own narcissistic way I want to stop the cycle.
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Old Dec 15, 2015, 08:43 AM
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I came across this and I know the thread is a bit old but I wanted to recommend to the OP the book "Will I ever be good enough: healing for daughters of narcissistic mothers" by Karyn McBride PhD. A friend recommended it to me and I found it very helpful. I am pretty sure my mom has histrionic PD but she has a lot of narcissitic tendencies, she's VERY self focused. The problem with narcissistic parents is that they often see their children as extensions of themselves, so it's difficult if not impossible for them to understand you feel things that aren't the same as what they feel.

My boyfriend has diagnosed NPD and he has taught himself to feel empathy to an extent. He does feel bad when he hurts me, but he says that there's just a select few he cares about (me, his kids, his best friend and his sponser) and the rest of the world can go to hell for all he cares.
The part I bolded is my mother to a T. And it ****s with my mind really, because I'm a Narcissist too... so in a ****ed up way I am an extension of her and that... I do not like that. It highly displeases me. And I am also displeased to have miscalculated to such a level as to not notice my mother's narcissism when I've recognized the other narcissists in my family so easily. I am frustrated, not at myself but with circumstance. My mother is a different kind of Narcissist than the others in my family so it's no wonder I didn't catch it before very recently.
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Old Dec 15, 2015, 09:52 AM
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The part I bolded is my mother to a T. And it ****s with my mind really, because I'm a Narcissist too... so in a ****ed up way I am an extension of her and that... I do not like that. It highly displeases me. And I am also displeased to have miscalculated to such a level as to not notice my mother's narcissism when I've recognized the other narcissists in my family so easily. I am frustrated, not at myself but with circumstance. My mother is a different kind of Narcissist than the others in my family so it's no wonder I didn't catch it before very recently.
"Covert" narcissism is more difficult to identify, I think.
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Old Dec 15, 2015, 09:58 AM
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"Covert" narcissism is more difficult to identify, I think.
My mother is not covert... More just, highly malignant and therefore able to hide it better when it suits her. I hope that made sense I haven't had nearly enough coffee this morning! I just thought her behavior was normal as I was a child and since I'm a Narcissist I didn't think much of it until lately...
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