New posts, new faces. New people just looking to fit in.

It wasn't directed at you. I think people without NPD or NPD traits troll this forum. People with NPD as opposed to NPD traits may think I troll the forum. I will message you privately about this.

I'm sick of being judged by some people with certain kinds of BPD or those who champion people with BPD as being callused or insensitive. That's one culture that is critical of me.

I think I should probably start my own thread. I don't want to hijack this one.

Like Atypical I'm also in agreement to not empower abusers, and also believe I may have missed something along the way. Do you refer to those who are abusers in reality, or on the forum?

This is reality . So in this case I'm talking about the NPD forum. This isn't the place to mock or make fun of those with NPD or NPD traits. The survivors of abuse thread would be the place to vent about people with NPD or traits. We get trolled a lot here. I think the sticky mentions this is a safe place for people with NPD or traits. It's the only such forum I know of.

This is really interesting. Very complex, as you said.

I DID succeed in disowning my narcissistic parts, sometimes anyway -- consciously but I expect that my children would say they still saw them and their results. And I was only a part-person and got progressively more depressed as life went on.

So, from my perspective, I really believe that the problem isn't the narcissistic parts of you but the "most of the population" that thinks they are all awful, all the time, and it's actually emotionally healthy that you not sure that you're willing to disown a part of yourself.

Other people may not love them and then if that results in them getting very intense, the intensity may cause you to get into trouble. But even though your parts aren't separate like mine were, I still don't think it's the "fault" of the parts -- it's that you don't like them, don't have a way to listen to what they are trying to say or do for you, so naturally they aren't or don't know how to be very cooperative either. How to change that -- I have very little of a clue. I think therapy should be focusing more in that direction but they aren't and I can't do anything about that.

Just my 2 cents. May be totally off your map, it's OK to tell me that, or "take what you like (if anything) and leave the rest".

Hi here today. My self is not in parts. I said I tend towards narcissism , that means all of me veers in that direction because of my intelligence. If I get lazy that is where I will go as its my natural inclination however I don't like the results it produces which is why I fight it every day of my life.
The reason I suggested the DID forum is you may find more like minded people there.
Narcissism is not a piece of one's psyche to be cut off and discarded at will. If you can do that chances are it's something else.
Are you afraid to post in the DID forum?

Thanks for the clarification

Ok so lets begin with your father mocking me. I have been told here from time to time that my writing is not up to the level of others but you see this doesn't bother me. Talk about seeing through someone, every other post you make talks about your intelligence and high iq. Do you think this makes people here believe in you? I too was always noted as a gifted one in my younger years at school but to be honest I left in the 10th grade as it was not for me any longer. Basing your beliefs on my grammar just shows who you REALLY are. So in a way that you see my "stuffing" is showing makes me wonder about you. Second, I am almost certain that I am so much more successful than you as you are divorced, emotionally used up, abused, scared of older people and so much more. I can almost bet financially as well. You see I did not need the big fancy degree to make myself feel good. I know who I am, can you say the same about yourself? If you answer yes we all know this is a lie just looking over your comments here. I don't put on an act cause I sit in front of a screen. Another trait for a weak person, seems you may have stumbled into the wrong forum!! I even gave a hint in another post the other day, you are being mocked by others and don't even see it. I have issues, yes that's why I frequent here. You my friend are the reason why people like me are the way they are. To top it off it is also the reason why you are so hurt inside and to see what you write makes me feel so much EMPATHY for your ex husband. In real life you would be another goal for a narcissist like me to bring out their best, then you could be where you belong. In one of the thousands of groups for people hurt by an N. Just keep thinking that certain people here are trying to help you, or understand you. Sure some are but then there's the ones who seem they are! They are laughing at you just like all those church going folks around you. Your feelings mean nothing to me so if it hurts good, if it doesn't good.
Most sincerely,
Mr. "bad grammar" Underground

I'm speechless...

It will come as no surprise, probably, that I find merit in this ^ (Underground's) attitude.

Not all of that attitude is "meritorious" in interpersonal, social life would be my guess. But it's take a lot for me to try to find and accept my version of this attitude, which is part of the equipment I came into this world with. Our society at large is going to suffer if the psychology "experts" we look to are wanting to extinguish it.

"Integration" of this attitude and feeling with other feelings -- that is to me what I feel I need for myself.

And let me say, grandiosely though it may sound, that I have done a lot of research and put a lot into trying to find a way to get myself "well" or "healthy". The "experts" I have consulted have been insufficient. I may be getting there. I've got some theory grounded in the ideas of others, plus my own observations of myself, and yet -- is anybody, anywhere interested in that kind of thing? Not that I can see currently.

The ultimate test, I know, is my ability to show the success of my ideas in myself. And if anybody is interested in how those ideas might help them, I'll glad expand/expound on what I am and have already written in this forum.

Right now, I'm continuing to try to work on my ideas, so that I can continue to work on myself. Very lonely out here. But it's not over till it's over, one foot in front of the other.

Thanks Underground and Atypical, for providing a place where I feel comfortable and welcome!

Your more than welcome!!

I don't think the point of this forum is for us to indulge in or wallow in our narcissism, I think it's for us to get better. Since there is a delay in my response ...

At any rate the attitude of the OP does remind me of a problematic person I know who is probably a narcissist.

I appreciate the opportunity to see both the banality and the commonality of the disorder. There's nothing impressive about it. It's cruel, it's mean, it judges people .

Come on now... Speechless!! I don't believe it. Did you really believe I was thankful for that nonsense??

I guess some people enjoy their narcissism and don't want to overcome it.

So to sum this up... You get me!!

I think she means she's speechless at your cruelty. You think you can flame me out of here but I'm still here. Just because I don't fit your narrow definition of what a narcissist is doesn't mean I haven't struggled with it .

I guess you are just looking for flying monkeys and not someone to challenge you.
I didn't say my dad would mock you or your grammar. He wouldn't care about you because you're not his son. I said he would mock me for mine because I know better. That's how my dad showed love. Yes, it was hurtful when I was younger but I understand it now.
It's very interesting how you've misinterpreted my posts and tried to hurt me. I've definitely come across this behavior before.

Also I can understand why here today is sensitive about the word abuse . If she does indeed sympathize with your outlook . You can't have it both ways. Narcissism is not nice. You have to make a choice: are you or are you not. If you are then you have to accept that part of the disorder is emotional abuse, if not the hallmark of the disorder. You can't be a narcissist and not be abusive.

My spider senses tell me that there's a slight bit of tension in the air. From my stay, I've felt very welcome here as well. Thanks guys.

As long as people get along with the op they are welcome. If they challenge him they are not. However this is not his forum just his thread. NPD like BPD comes in many varieties . The op is an overt narcissist . That is not the only type. However the bottom line is we are supposed to support each other. Now how a narcissist can support another? Interesting question.

How can narcissists support each other? An interesting question indeed. On paper, it sounds like fighting fire with gasoline. However, you guys are quite intelligent. So anythings possible

I think you're wrong about what Atypical thinks, but she can certainly speak for herself, when she finds her voice, and I may be entirely wrong!

And good for you, not feeling flamed out of here!! I'm not at all sure that Underground thinks (or wants) to do that, either. But, again, I could be wrong.

Any ideas? Novel as it may sound, this has been kind of a group effort, a work in progress. . .

Thunderdome style cage fight! Justt kidding. From experience so far, none of my ideas on such matters have been successful, or truly original to be honest. Like the idom look before you leap. Or taking time out to gauge a persons response from their point of views. Often in the past I've witnessed arguments because both parties were over defensive yet had no attacker lol. Often because a misunderstanding was present. I will meditate on this further.

Unfortunately this thread has become very unsupportive and will now be closed.

While this may be a support forum for those dx'ed with narcissism and just by the diagnosis support may be a stretch at times, we do not allow flaming of one another. Please use the ignore function in future conversations if there is nothing supportive to say.

This thread is now being closed.