Appalled -- Psycho Donuts

It's appalling, at the very core, but then the people who created it have that kind of leaning it appears, gravitating toward the baser, from the owners to the artists that support them!

A dear family member of ours has mild traumatic brain injury. We find nothing humourous about this or mental illness.

There is room for official justice (not revenge, even if it is almost tangible) for these kinds of people, whether dispensed by humans or from on high. Who will dispense it, in this case?

I'm really sorry ya'll feel this strongly about it. The way I see it, ya'll have your blood preasure raised, your feelings have been hurt, your inner peace has been distrubed, you're using energy on anger when it could be used personally on things that really matter in your personal life, such as your healing.

I had forgotten about this thread. I had forgotten about some crazy freaks that choose the baser side of life by poking fun at people like me. All this time, I've been enjoying myself with my gardening, taking care of my pond with fish and water plants, visiting my sons, enjoying my grandchildren and even reading and doing some learning of very wonderful, beautiful things that not only benefit me in this life, but in the life to come. I've enjoyed time with my dog, my cat and even better, with my husband.

Any of you see the difference here? The donut shop case holds the status quo. Not much has changed.

The matter hasn't broken our peace at all, anymore than any crimes already perpetrated against us have, but the concept of doing nothing has.

Our belief is mercy and justice equally.

If we sit back and do nothing we get exactly that.

Some here at PC do not have a home, food, dog or relaxing chair to sit on because of apathy that believes in saying and doing nothing and letting this kind of hate by these people in this venture be perpetrated. Where is the mental health representatives in this community? There should be an outcry from them so that those suffering from such social abuse can maintian their anonymity.

The opposite of love isn't hate. The opposite of love is apathy imo.

This is my Sunday rant/sermon rofl.

H

http://www.mercurynews.com/pattyfish...nclick_check=1

And the owner's response.

Donut Notes
We opened up a business, because it's the American dream ("Crazy About Donuts," MetroMenu, April 8). Because it has a chance of surviving a severe recession, we chose a donut shop.

We made it very different, because if we didn't, it would be like any other donut shop. Because our donuts look and taste crazy, we chose a fitting name. Because donuts have no feelings, they won't be upset that we're making fun of them. Because we love Campbell, we chose our location. Because we will not fire our eight employees, we won't shut down the shop. Because of First Amendment rights, we won't change our name. Some groups are going after us—and not South Park and Mind of Mencia—because they are bullies.

Because there are a million donut shops, everyone has a choice. Because most people have a sense of humor and like our donuts, we are thriving.

Kipp Berdianski, Psycho Donuts
Campbell

http://news.aol.com/article/oregon-river-drowning/496457?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Foregon-river-drowning%2F496457

If ya'll want to get righteously pissed about something, here something worth all the energy. You KNOW they're going to say the mother has a mental illness... and rightfully so. No one in their right mind would do something like this.

Hi September...

I posted about this a little earlier and yes, it is definitely worthy of getting pissed off about.

Don't mean to be a butt head, but just think how terrible it would be if somebody opened up a donut shop in Portland mocking the mentally ill. Maybe the could have a fake bridge there and parents could pretend they're all crazy and throw their kids off of it into a fake river of foam for some kicks. Maybe they could make little boy donuts and put blue frosting around his mouth and eyes to make him look dead?

Wouldn't that just be hilarious?

P.S. Not mad at you...just making a point.

I hope if Bill O uses it, it won't just promote the Donut Shop. They truly are Certifiabley Pinheads imho.

LOL!!!

Certifiable Pinheads.....

Were you speaking of Fox News, the Donut Shop, or both?

So... what do you plan to do about this donut shop. How do you plan to shut them down, if not get them to see the error of their ways?

Are you going to be angry when it's reported in the news that the mother of that little boy has a mental illness? Then what? Should we not talk about mental illness and throw it back into the dark ages? Or...

No, I am not going to be angry when they say that the Mother has a mental illness. Despite our illnesses and disorders, everyone has to be responsible and accountable for their actions. Unfortunately, this woman decided to act in a way, that when looked upon by society (regardless of what illness she has) will reflect negatively on the mentally ill to a certain degree. It remains a struggle not to let these actions and behaviors define us as a group when stereotypes and stigma are formed.

What am I going to do about the donut shop? Well, for one thing, I did sign the petition to request that they change the name of the shop. It is not appropriate to isolate a group of people based on their vulnerabilities and create an environment that reinforces stigma, stereotypes, oppression and misunderstanding....for fun. So, I will do what is within my right as a human being, with respect to the laws under which I live. If that means, raising my voice and speaking up then that is what I'll do. I will not, however, turn a blind eye and walk with my head down, out of shame, ignorance, or whatever else, just to watch other people be mis-educated and mis-informed about society and the world as a whole.

What if these people made a donut shop that looked like a Church, had a wooden cross that you could hang from while getting your picture taken, sold donuts that looked like a beaten and mangled Jesus and called their store "Hangin' with Jesus Donuts"? Do you think that would be funny? I think it would be quite offensive.

Honestly, I'm cool with the fact that you don't find this worthy of speaking up about, but some of us are tired of others insensitivity and ignorance and we have a right to say so.

Peace

Is it possible to stand together on this one?

Small businesses really do need support and the donut shop employs several people as well encourages young entrepreneurs.

The challenge is, will these young starter-uppers, who are a little ignorant, in our opinion, support the mentally ill of their community? Can we challenge them to have a sign that supports the mentally ill in their community or support the mental health community somehow?

Here there is a bank that supports an improv group that fundamentally is all from the mental health community. It allows the mentally ill to make fun of themselves/ourselves. The brochures in the bank are tied into the bank's logo, that supports them. The brochures are tastefully created and give the showtimes of the improv presentations and allows a space for donations to be made.

Here's hoping there may also be some other creative solutions and that the uproar can have a creative and meaningful outcome.

Any other ideas?

H.

Hunny, why don't you send the donut shop that brochure and any information you have on the improv group? That would be doing something possitive and could possibly change their views.

Elysum, your idea would be making fun of a diety, who happens to be MY diety. I think you know that. There's a big difference in that and what the donut shop is doing. Yet, it probably would be allowed. There was a so called "work of art" that was allowed to hang somewhere, I don't remember where now, that had human excrement to form the shape of Christ or Mary, I'm not sure which one, and they called it "art" and "freedom of speech." So, when someone pokes fun at the mentally ill, I don't let it bother me because you're going to find these kind of people everywhere. What's the saying, "There's one in every crowd"?

That kind of statement reflects on the person that is doing it, not the person(s) they are talking about.

"Psycho Donuts" is just a bit "tasteless" for me, pun intented.

The ppl who started it have not thought it out as to how it may hurt someone. They are ignorant, and just trying to make a buck. I for one, would not spend my money there. But they have that right to make $, and they will until someone (or a group of somebodies) educates them. They aren't much different from some of the ppl we deal with everyday.

Unfortunately.

If it upsets you, go for it, on good days I've even learned how to let somethings roll off my back. Besides, I'm trying to lose the pounds I put on during the winter months of eatting donuts (just the ones with the nuts on them , not from the psycho donut shop), so I won't be shopping there!

I believe that if you are making fun of a deity, then you are also fostering intolerance and oppression towards the group that holds that deity as sacred. You are targeting their values and their beliefs. It is very similar to targeting other groups, whether they be mentally ill, developmentally challenged, or of a different culture. It all fosters mis-education, stereotypes, stigma, and ultimately hate.

I'm glad that you are able to let this roll of your back. If that works for you, then great. I, however, choose to speak out about issues that tend to make my blood boil such as this.

I don't see the issue you have with that. What difference is it to you whether I spend my days screaming at the sky? If you are going to embrace the rights of the owners of the donut shop to name their store whatever they want, it wouldn't matter what group, or deity they targeted, and you would have to therefor embrace other peoples rights to stand up and protest that name. If you didn't, that would seem very hypocritical.

I am not trying to make this post about religion. I used the religious reference as an example, because I thought it might help you understand my ideas and thoughts a little easier. It's okay though...you don't have to understand. Your views and opinions are your own and that is okay with me. But my views and opinions are my own, and that is okay as well.

Some relief:

http://en.wordpress.com/tag/campbell-california/

Leading Statewide Mental Health Organization Expresses Outrage over Bay Area Donut Shop’s Attempt at Humor

United Advocates for Children and Families Calls for Boycott of “Psycho Donuts” Unless Immediate Changes are Made Sacramento, CA — United Advocates for Children and Families (UACF), appalled at

http://forums.psychcentral.com/showt...66#post1031166

The above link is to a video in the Video Forum. I think it is worth watching.

Unfortunately, it seems the negative press is having the opposite effect some desire. Those who had never previously heard of this small shop, are watching the "scandal" or reading about it. Appears they're flocking to buy one of those donuts.

Is it true that bad press is better than no press at all

My feeling is that bad press is absolutely better than bad...people have a base instinct to want to hear all the gory details so to speak.
Kind of like chasing an ambulance to look at the accident.

Catherine

I do have to agree that it is a rather interesting idea on their part by deviating from the traditional idea of a donought shop. However, this sort of mockery towards individuals with any type of disorder, physical or mental, is rather pointless. It's not going to make society move forward if we point and say "ahhh, he/she's a psycho, they're loopyloony". It's rather childish and immature, however, a donut shop isn't exactly meant to be a scholar-like place. As long as they don't encourage mockery of psychopathology, then it's not doing a tremendous amount of harm. If they do promote mockery, then they can expect to be plastered in the amount of complaints they'll get.

Hello everyone -

I'm asking that people please be respectful of one another in this discussion. It's possible to disagree without attacking someone who you disagree with.

Please keep this thread on topic with what the original poster had originally shared.

Thanks!