Whats going on with PC at the moment?

Multipixie, you are indeed a very important and very supportive member of the community, you are very sympathetic and warm and rise above your own challenges always to help those in need, keep up the good work. PC is all about people like you

Paddy

[QUOTE=Elysium3006;1140207][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"]Lauru~I don't think we've met here on PC before!! This topic is not directed at you in any way. You played no part in it. No worries, okay...


Elysium, thanks. I don't think we have met before. I have been a little absent lately due to a small mental illness episode. I'm ok though. Looking forward to chatting with you more.

thanks for this thread. I was creating problems a few weeks ago but i'm not doing anything anymore so i don't think this is directed at me. But its good to keep it in mind.

Doc John or a Mod
I hate to be the bad guy but can we have this thread closed
it seems to me that it is starting to offend some
by causing them to think they are the ones being talked about in
this thread when my guess is that was not the original intent
as you are well aware a lot of us have already very low self esteem
and well I do not think it is helping to keep this one going

Sorry if this offends anyone and I am not trying to tell
anyone what they should or should not do here it is
just a suggestion

Starinna

Doc John has replied to this thread. It is not directed at you or anyone with low self esteem. In fact the point of this thread is to protect those with low self esteem and how they may be influenced by stronger personalites. We are here to protect you not to hurt or to infringe on you. Debates are part and parcel of this site and as a democracy all voices should be heard. We have long winded discussions about the chat room on a regular basis so we should too have discussions on what is right and proper on the forums as well. Not many people have come foward and said that they are triggered by this discussion. It needs to be said.

Please please do not take this as a reflection of you, there is a much bigger picture.

Thank you for this Paddy, PC Is a community for all of us to gather and support each other in our struggles with mental illness, as a community we must all work together rules and regulations are in a place for a reason. Teamwork is key to the contiuing growth of PC. There is a time and place for everything. and the reason we have those guidelines and such is too keep us all safe, and keep this community a safe place for all of us to gather and share our stories and offer support. I think all of us need the reminder from time to time on what the guidelines are. I know I do, since I forget things very easily

To many more wonderful and prosperious years of Psychcentral and it's wonderful members

Sparrow

I am in 100% agreement with Paddy on this and kudos for saying it first. There are countless blogs for politics on the net. If that is your thing, go there. Ads bombard the net. If you want to write one, hook up with Google and see if they'll support you. This is supposed to be for people who want to get well, or at least find better ways of coping with mental health issues. Let us keep it that way. I, for one, will delete any PM I get (got one earlier) asking for support on another site, or references, or what have you that is not related directly to this site. When you're here on PC, please make it about this forum and nothing else. Thanks for reading this.

I am well aware the Doc John has replied my concern was not for me but in particular for Michah for me sorry it is simple like I have said
if I do not like it and I have a particular dislike for religious talk
I ignor it I also know that sometimes things run their course
I am in no way offended by any of this just did not want others to feel uncomfortable.

i am thinking i must be one of the people who has offended folks and i am so sorry. any spiritual discussions i've participated in have been started by others and i merely responded in kind so i thought it was okay. no one has complained to me though. i guess what i consider "spiritual" some others may consider "religious". i do think it is hard to know which is which sometimes, but i have no desire to be hurtful to anyone. i was under the impression from docjohn's posts that we could talk about spiritual practices but not beliefs, sacred texts, or spiritual figures/founders. also, one person asked if we can mention what our faith is and i remember reading docjohn say that it is ok to mention it. again, i apologize for any unintended offense.

Bloom

We have a great forum here Sanctuary for spiritual support where there is much discussion on all things spiritual and of personal beliefs. I think it is in the general forums where the problem lies when people give support to others and invoke religious beliefs and ideology into the support which in a way is preying on someone who is at a low ebb. I was told that all problems and difficulties are solved by a belief in ''Him" (God), now my religious beliefs are nobodies business and I would never presume to try to save another member by my beliefs. Please dont apologise for anything you havent done. Support is all about empathising with the person in need of support it is NOT a platform to push the believes and dogmas onto a vulnerable person.

As you said you didnt instigate the conversation it was suggested to you.

Take care of yourself

Paddy

Starrina

Michah has responded and is fully aware that it is not her that perpetrates the subject of this thread. She is a very wise, valued member of PC and one of the prolfic supporters in PC.

Hope this sets this clear

just so you know i recently changed my name from "reflection" to "bloom" but my avatar is the same. so, if you're thinking of posts by reflection that was me.

paddy, i would just like some clarification on all this. are you saying that on pc we are not allowed to have any sort of spiritual talk outside the sanctuary for spiritual support forum? if that is the policy on pc i was completely unaware of it as i've seen spiritual talk in several other forums so i was under the impression it is ok.

maybe it would be helpful if you report any specific posts where this has happened to the mods. there is that triangle button at the bottom of each post with an exclamation point in it just for that purpose. as i said it is my understanding that conversations i've had on here have been spiritual rather than religious but i realize people will see those things differently. if any of my posts are the offensive ones please report them so the mods can clarify to me what i said that was off-base.

i certainly don't think i said this but is it against the pc policy to refer to God as "he" or "him" or "she" or "her"? i may have said "he" in just normal usage of a pronoun so not to say God repeatedly. if that's not allowed please let me know.

that's where i'm confused. i don't know what exactly i've said that is one of the problem posts because this hasn't been specified.

i definitely understand what you're saying and i'm sure this is where i and others erred. there was a discussion in the dissociative forum where i reposted something that was already posted on another thread. someone asked a question and i replied on the original thread because i didn't want to trigger anyone on the new thread. i thought i was talking about spiritual things and i was responding to what someone else posted. we were talking about a new dsm category that talked about spirit beings inhabiting a person. to me that is a spiritual discussion. if i got "religious" it was in response to the original poster's comments. i will try to be much more careful of that. i still think it would be helpful to hash out what specifically is wrong in a particular post as it is really hard to know what is considered spiritual and what is religious.

again, i do apologize. i have no desire to offend anyone here and i will be more careful in what i say. i was going by existing conversations so i assumed it was ok.

Bloom

this is the text from the original post:

Stop with politics and religion, even if it is subtle, whoever you are, you are doing a great disservice to yourself and to us. Lets concentrate on getting better and helping those who need it to get there.

Paddy [/quote]

Bloom

No mention of spirituality was mentioned in the original post I refer specifically to the above whic is taken from the original post.

You mention that we should report religious and idelogical writing to the mods, but what happened over the last few days was that many many people were insulted and abhorred by two posts by one prolific member and it hurt and triggered a lot of people and we are all tired
of this and having to listen to the same repeated posts that are unhelpful and not what many of us agree with. We have reported them
but nonetheless I am not one to take it sitting in down. Why should I when the people who write these things continue to insult and discriminate against us. This is a democracy after all.

I hope you understand

Paddy

I'm sorry to say this but I really think this whole thing should have been dealt with behind the scenes by our great admin and mod team. I don't feel that this thread makes anyone feel good. Let's all remember that this is a support forum,(not a debate forum) people get poorly from time to time, report the post and let admin deal with those people. Have compassion and understanding for those that are struggling and if you can't do that then use the ignore button.

Psych Central is a wonderful place where you can use various tools if you get triggered. The admin team are there to deal with the problems, I don't think anyone needs to be feeling bad about this. Let's keep Psych Central the great place it is!

In peace!

I think its good to air things once in a while and IMO this is the once in a while time. There are the same people pushing the boundries on rules all the time and that in itself causes upset.

Maybe now its been 'publicly' aired they will stop.

(((((((( paddy )))))))))

Paddy, I have great respect for you but the thread is making some people feel bad and maybe unintentionally creating further upset. I know that was not your intention. I have seen these things happen before and I wanted to say in your thread that it SHOULD have been dealt with behind the scenes and thus not creating anymore upset.

Use the tools and let's move forward.

thanks for explaining paddy. i obviously missed that whole thing but i will be careful about what i say as well if the mods can respond to my questions so i know where to post what. pc is great and i also definitely think "coexist" is the way to go. for anyone who doesn't know what that is just google "coexist" and the site should come up.

I want to close this thread now and please no more posts the point has been made.

Like all communities we are made up up of many different viewpoints and beliefs and that is good.

However and I stand by this people who inflict religious or political beliefs onto us have no place in our community and I will along with many others who supported me in this thread be ever vigilant and will no longer stand up to be being patronised.

If you feel you were the subject of this thread you are wrong, you are for the most part very good people, supportive and loving.

For those few that this thread was about you know who you are and I hope you will adjust your ways and become less confrontational and secular which is what PC is a Secular community

Due to ((paddys))) kind request. Im going to lock this thread now. ((TY)) to everyone who took part.
Thank you ((paddy)) for the thread.,