Why are men the punching bags of society?

My husband is always talking about how men are made out to be dumb and dim witted on t.v.. I think it kinda goes both was. Men are portrayed as dumb and women are portrayed as being weak whiny little things. But I have noticed that the women now are portrayed as naggy know it alls and then you have the t.v men like Shatners Boston Legal character, Denny Crane. He's the office "slut" he's dithering and considered sexist. I have to admit it made for one helluva show. And biscut mentioned about that teacher there in Austrailia. There was one here a few y/s back that had sexual relations with a 14 y/o at her school over and over. And did'nt get any time in prison for her crime because she was "too pretty to go to jail" hmmmmm....now is'nt that another stereotype? If it were a man doing that with a female student he would go to prison for a long time.

I compleatly agree with you there about the prison sentances being irregualer.

But then again my ******er was told that
you are a good boy you went to therapy
we will not send you to jail even though
this is not your first victim WTF is with that
you go to therapy and you do not pay for your crime?.
then again thats the boys club hey.

Sexist jokes exist on both sides. There are jokes about men and jokes about women. I don't see it as a problem as we know they're just stupid jokes.

As for Pamela Anderson, she simply uses her attractiveness to sell products or promote her TV series. Sex sells, and again it applies to both men and women.

noone is forceing the women to wear the bikini these days if they feel its degrading they should not do it "just say NO"..........I do not think is degrading if thats the indviduals choice......other women dont have to copy or even look there plenty of help out there teach and help women but there little to nothing for men if there is a negative relationship they arn't even taught thay have the right to live with a non nagging belittling over bearing women....met plenty of them.....

Sure but then again same goes for men hey
no one is forcing them either
and you are not entially right about some of
what you said because it is the old adage
of what a boss wants a boss gets and most
car sales bosses are men that think it is ok
to have a beautiful woman parade around
in a bikini or what ever
I know that men are made fun of but woman
are to and it is not all about one or the other
its about standing up and being counted in a way
and saying this sexist attitude toward each other
has to stop,it took a long time for woman to
have the same rights as men.
As for me I am done with this thread because no matter which
way we twist it men and woman next to never see eye to eye
on things and so the story will be never ending

if a women cant say no and stay away from situation that are not good for her then she need to get some self confidance........

it did take a long time for women to get rights like men but women taking it too far the tide is swing in the oppersite direction now there a point where we have to say enough is enough we got our rights were happy and thank you.......and leave it at that......but no some women just want more attention how many adds do you see about mens medical issues not very many compared to women issues and no where near as effective or in our faces like the womens issues..... just the same as I have a problem with the heart attack adds that are aimed at men I have a problem with breast cancer adds not talking about men......more women die from heart attack than men cause of lack of knolage and men while rare can die from breast cancer not to mention other illnesses that women cant get that are solely a male issues yet men loose the battle with many because of lack of info.....

Its all good a well to have womens right but now men need more right over there kids if they brack up and why do women in america get alomony money from the ex that seems very sexist.....what about all the men that have joint custody and still pay full child suport......i dont know about other counties but australia is starting to finally address the issues men face when thay have kids from a brock relationship.....what about men getting parenting leave what about men getting more respect for trying to better parants if the women choses to work the man has to pick up the slack and help with the kids but how many company will give men parental leave or let them have time off to suport the women when there having there baby thay have to use holiday pay and sick leave while the women get maternity leave just a little bit out of balance still if you ask me it like women what there cake(women rites to work ect)and they want to eat it too(caring for the child when there sick with parenting leave) I have great thanks for the women who changed the rules but its time to stop and relax and enjoy for a while.....

This thread is bordering on ridiculous I am backing away now too ..... lol.

Men have it very hard in our society. I receive emails every week, so called jokes that trash men, call them stupid, or sex crazed. I delete them and don't find them funny at all, any more than I like ones that put down women. Men are expected to be strong and show no emotions and then are criticized and accused of having no feelings. Men feel. Just as strongly as women do. They are ridiculed if they do show them, and it starts young "don't cry, be a man!" No wonder men are confused. Damned if you do, damned it you don't.

I compleatly agree with you I recently watch a show about affican people trying to learn to live in australia. Even thoe men in australia are self suficant affrican men have been raised to let women cook this is in no way a sexist thing as the african women are the ones that laugh at the men for cooking or cleaning ect. Its there culture, a group of affrican women set out change this for men but in doing so they had to also address the womens attuid and beleifs for men to feel safe to go the cooking classes...Lots of affrican men were living together with no women and thay could not do the basics to keep the alive eg cook and clean. While this is a different culture I do beleave that women still have there expection of men that are very old way thinking yet thay still want the men to treat them the way this day and age expect of men. I think that like haveing you cake and eating it too. For example you cant both go to work and still expect the man to help out with the kids and house work and bill but then if you brack up and both still have jobs the women seem to expect to get full custody and the men get the bad deal more often this is not equality this is a form of abuse men are scared to brack up with women for fear of loosing there kids so often and if the table was turned women would be screaming to hills saying unfair, unjust. The rules have to change with the expectation.

Thunderbear, I live in the area where this happened. The woman's defense attorney argued that she should not have to do jail time because she was "too pretty to go to jail." I had the same reaction you did. What difference the sex of the offender? People would've died laughing if an attorney said ths same thing about a man. BTW, the woman in question DID serve jail time.

This is a facinating thread and I have to agree with those who commented that it got W-A-Y off track a few times.

some general comments brought on as I read the posts...

Starting with the original post. The media makes fun of BOTH sexes and uses sexual sterotypes to order to sell products. IMHO, it's offensive regardless the sex being ridiculed or stereotyped.

As a female who lived through the feminist movement and has faced sexual discrimination in the past, men may not see it, but men still have privilge in the States. I can't speak for other countries because I don't live there. Things are still not equal here, way better than the past, but not equal.

In my younger days I used to make realy sexist remarks about men. Then one day I asked myself if I would make such comments about someone based on race. The idea horrified me. I never made a sexist comment about men again.