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Old Apr 01, 2011, 12:17 AM
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Well, i am fairly educated, slightly misanthropic at times, not many real problems, and for the most part, generally very happy with my life. But heres the odd thing, i just learned/realized, that I act no diffrent by my lonesome, than i do around people. AT ALL. i have no "behind closed doors" persona.
Is there a reason for this? What are the negitive aspects? if any?

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Old Apr 01, 2011, 02:46 AM
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I am feeling the same way but right now i am lost i dont know who i am or who my friends are and im soo depressed/happy and i have no clue
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Old Apr 01, 2011, 07:08 AM
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perhaps i'm misunderstanding but you sound healthy-minded even when alone. you seem to be aware of your attributes. why would you seek another persona?
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Old Apr 01, 2011, 07:35 AM
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Old Apr 01, 2011, 04:10 PM
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We are all different.

There are people who prefer to be nude and think nothing of it. They are not any more strange then the person who is a Quaker. Both lifestyles are normal. If you are doing something that is dangerous to you or others, then you need to seek help right away. If you are doing something that distressess you, then you should seek help.
I hope that helps, I am just me.
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Old Apr 02, 2011, 12:14 AM
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What i dont feel comfortable with is, how can i lead a healthy social life, or trust that i am; if i can not be subjective. I hope someone understands what i am tring to say. I have no shame, i have no secrets. Yet vanity is a prime variable in living a healthy social life. is this going to become a parasite later in life? or is it okay to be comfortable with being mentaly self-sufficient? ...like i said, i am by no doubt a misanthrope. which normaly entails anxiety, panic, and obsessivness. Which is the exact oppiset of who i am. Where's it coming from? And why is it beging to rule my life?
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Old Apr 02, 2011, 01:04 AM
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oh...and, the byzantine, I had made my own assumptions of the definitions mentioned in your link, I had assumed thats just common sense. The problem is...I don't fit in there. I'm slipping. (yea yea, asides from the typical social norms, i am not gonna run down the street naked, killing stuff)
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Old Apr 02, 2011, 02:55 AM
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What i dont feel comfortable with is, how can i lead a healthy social life, or trust that i am; if i can not be subjective. I hope someone understands what i am tring to say. I have no shame, i have no secrets. Yet vanity is a prime variable in living a healthy social life. is this going to become a parasite later in life? or is it okay to be comfortable with being mentaly self-sufficient? ...like i said, i am by no doubt a misanthrope. which normaly entails anxiety, panic, and obsessivness. Which is the exact oppiset of who i am. Where's it coming from? And why is it beging to rule my life?
You got me there. my social life is the very thing that stumbles me the most. I find that it is the hardest thing to do is to be subjective about one's self. Being metally self -sufficient sounds like something to strive for and not something to worry about. perhaps it is the anxiety and obsessive feelings you normally have are effecting the way you see this situation.

Ultimately, I say be yourself. You seem to be a fairly confident person in most situations and you should apply that confidence in this situation.

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Old Apr 02, 2011, 05:30 AM
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Now, that man is more of a political animal than bees or any other gregarious animals is evident. Nature, as we often say, makes nothing in vain, and man is the only animal whom she has endowed with the gift of speech. And whereas mere voice is but an indication of pleasure or pain, and is therefore found in other animals (for their nature attains to the perception of pleasure and pain and the intimation of them to one another, and no further), the power of speech is intended to set forth the expedient and inexpedient, and therefore likewise the just and the unjust. And it is a characteristic of man that he alone has any sense of good and evil, of just and unjust, and the like, and the association of living beings who have this sense makes a family and a state.

Further, the state is by nature clearly prior to the family and to the individual, since the whole is of necessity prior to the part; for example, if the whole body be destroyed, there will be no foot or hand, except in an equivocal sense, as we might speak of a stone hand; for when destroyed the hand will be no better than that. But things are defined by their working and power; and we ought not to say that they are the same when they no longer have their proper quality, but only that they have the same name. The proof that the state is a creation of nature and prior to the individual is that the individual, when isolated, is not self-sufficing; and therefore he is like a part in relation to the whole. But he who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god: he is no part of a state. A social instinct is implanted in all men by nature, and yet he who first founded the state was the greatest of benefactors. For man, when perfected, is the best of animals, but, when separated from law and justice, he is the worst of all; since armed injustice is the more dangerous, and he is equipped at birth with arms, meant to be used by intelligence and virtue, which he may use for the worst ends. Wherefore, if he have not virtue, he is the most unholy and the most savage of animals, and the most full of lust and gluttony. But justice is the bond of men in states, for the administration of justice, which is the determination of what is just, is the principle of order in political society.
http://www.constitution.org/ari/polit_01.htm

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  • Le bon sens est la chose du monde la mieux partagée, car chacun pense en être bien pourvu.
    • Common sense is the best distributed thing in the world, for we all think we possess a good share of it.
    • René Descartes, Discours de la Méthode (1637)
  • Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down by the mind before you reach eighteen.
    • Attributed to Albert Einstein in Mathematics, Queen and Servant of the Sciences (1952) by Eric Temple Bell
    • Paraphrased variant: Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
"It has been said that there is nothing more uncommon than common sense."

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Apollonian and Dionysian are terms used by Nietzsche in The Birth of Tragedy to designate the two central principles in Greek culture. The Apollonian, which corresponds to Schopenhauer's principium individuationis ("principle of individuation"), is the basis of all analytic distinctions. Everything that is part of the unique individuality of man or thing is Apollonian in character; all types of form or structure are Apollonian, since form serves to define or individualize that which is formed; thus, sculpture is the most Apollonian of the arts, since it relies entirely on form for its effect. Rational thought is also Apollonian since it is structured and makes distinctions.

The Dionysian, which corresponds roughly to Schopenhauer's conception of Will, is directly opposed to the Apollonian. Drunkenness and madness are Dionysian because they break down a man's individual character; all forms of enthusiasm and ecstasy are Dionysian, for in such states man gives up his individuality and submerges himself in a greater whole: music is the most Dionysian of the arts, since it appeals directly to man's instinctive, chaotic emotions and not to his formally reasoning mind.

Nietzsche believed that both forces were present in Greek tragedy, and that the true tragedy could only be produced by the tension between them. He used the names Apollonian and Dionysian for the two forces because Apollo, as the sun-god, represents light, clarity, and form, whereas Dionysus, as the wine-god, represents drunkenness and ecstasy.
http://www.historyguide.org/europe/dio_apollo.html

Your moniker is a curiosity based on what you are saying. It might be good to get out and listen to people. You seem rather root-bound: When a plant grows for too long in its container, it generally becomes root-bound. With no room for additional growth, roots become tangled, matted, and grow in circles. Root-bound plants placed in the ground without having their roots untangled often fail to overcome their choked condition. This results in stunting the plants growth and potential.
Thanks for this!
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Old Apr 03, 2011, 10:35 AM
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Unless I'm misunderstanding your meaning, it seems to me that experiencing the same personality whether alone or in society would be an indication of authenticity, a desirable feature. Anxiety and obsessiveness is another issue, so perhaps I don't understand all that you're saying.
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